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4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At School

Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:16 am

Only in Bush's Amerikkka

A 10-year-old girl was placed in handcuffs and taken to a police station because she took a pair of scissors to her elementary school.

School district officials said the fourth-grade student did not threaten anyone with the 8-inch shears, but violated a rule that considers scissors to be potential weapons.


http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2942930
 
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RE: 4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At School

Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:26 am

Right Royal, this decision was only due to Bush.  Insane
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RE: 4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At School

Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:37 am

Nope, it weans't Bush's decision (I never said that).

However, we now live in a world where everyone is a potential threat. Even a 4th grader with a pair of scissors.

Pathetic.
 
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RE: 4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At School

Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:40 am

America was this way pre-Bush. After Columbine and Jonesboro, schools are NOT taking any chances any more. That was even in 'Clinton's America.'
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RE: 4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At School

Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:48 am

"Only in Bush's Amerikkka"

You are absolutely right. Under Clinton, Janet Reno's justice department would have sent federal officers with assault rifles and flak vests like they did with Elian Gonzales.

Spare us the partisan crap. It just does not apply.

These lucky people hit the jackpot. They can now sue the local Government.
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RE: 4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At School

Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:53 am

In whomevers america, where is the common sense? Arresting and putting a 4th grader in handcuffs is not "not taking any chances", it is being outright stupid. Being aware of and noticing students who are being treated like shit by their peers (the majority if not all of the persons that comitted school shootings) is doing the right thing, arresting an individual that statistically is 0% likely to commit any crime let alone murdering anyone is just wrong.
 
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RE: 4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At School

Mon Dec 13, 2004 3:29 am

WTF?!?!?!... What is America coming to. We live in a world where Scissors are illegal, yet pot and cocaine seem to be escaping the grasp of police.
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RE: 4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At School

Mon Dec 13, 2004 4:40 am

See this is my point...this is my point as I said in another thread we should legalize drugs. But this reminds me of the case where a girl got suspended for doing cartwheels. I mean how redicioulous is this getting. I thought Bush wanted no Child left behind... well by arresting them for having a pair of scissors or doing a carthwheel not only are they being left behind....they are nationally embarressed over stupid things.
 
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RE: 4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At Sch

Mon Dec 13, 2004 4:44 am

Out-friggin-rageous!

When I was in grammer school we were required to have scissors. How the heck does someone do crafts and projects that stimulate creativity without scissors?

The future looks a lot like rectangles and ripped, jagged edges.

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RE: 4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At Sch

Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:08 am

"...police said they were following department rules when they handcuffed Porsche Brown and took her away in a patrol wagon."

Porsche Brown?

I believe her parents should have been arrested and taken away. Who the hell gives his daugther such a ridiculous name?
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RE: 4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At School

Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:17 am

Porsche is a cool name so is Enzo...I mean Enzo what a cool name... but I still think it is ridiculous
 
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Not Unheard Of

Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:43 am

Scissors were banned in my school district after there was a stabbing with them on a bus which I was on in 7th grade, when a 6th grader stabbed an 8th grader with them on the bus...real big mess, then the school district banned them...

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RE: 4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At School

Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:49 am

I have to admit that this is pretty extreme.
 
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RE: 4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At School

Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:50 am

I don't care who the president is, arresting a 4th grader for having scissors at school is just pathetic. But there is a possible exception- when they said the scissors were 8-inch shears did they mean that the entire pair of scissors from handle to tip was 8 inches or did they mean that the blade was 8 inches? If the blade was 8 inches those could be dangerous scissors because 8 inches is pretty big for a blade. Her parents shouldn't have let her have scissors that big. If they were 8 inches handle to tip that's not that bad. But still it is IMPOSSIBLE to cut something in school without scissors. I think this case is pathetic, pathetic, pathetic.

BTW have you ever noticed that there are names for people that are the names of cars but they are always nice cars? For example- Mercedes, Porsche, Enzo....men must be doing the naming! But a name like Porsche Brown makes no sense....what happened to normal names like Caroline and Mary?

Just my 2 cents!

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Mon Dec 13, 2004 8:10 am

The thing that worries me some is the fact that the teachers were searching the kids bags. Thats real odd.
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RE: 4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At Sch

Mon Dec 13, 2004 9:59 am

first of all I highly doubt that she was taken out in handcuffs.. I really won't believe this until there is some sort of video or photot that shows her in handcuffs.. If it is true I highly doubt the girl was just peacefully sitting there..
 
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Mon Dec 13, 2004 10:02 am

the resources in some situations in the united states could be much MUCH better allocated....
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RE: 4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At School

Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:13 am

first of all I highly doubt that she was taken out in handcuffs.. I really won't believe this until there is some sort of video or photot that shows her in handcuffs.. If it is true I highly doubt the girl was just peacefully sitting there..

Come on, you think the paper would lie? What would be the motive for that? And how much trouble could a girl in fourth grade cause? What do you think she weighs, maybe 50/60 pounds?
 
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RE: 4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At School

Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:16 am

i think she would be more scared from being handcuffed, than from just being told what was right....

a kid needs to be treated right to not make errors....cuffing her at a vulnerable age....forget it..she'll have nightmares or something along the lines of feeling super guilty later on...
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RE: 4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At School

Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:20 am

Let me get this straight, this is due to Bush, the president who supports the NRA? Give me a break!  Insane


However, yes that is extreme what happened. I'd definately examine school policy before continuing to administer such rules, unless it really was a double-machete 8 incher.
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RE: 4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At School

Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:55 am

This reminds me of when I was leaving the US in March 2002! With the rest of my family, and after running a bit late leaving the apartment, ended up just throwing my soap bag into my carry on because my bags for the hold were too full. Well I forgot I had a pair of old safety (YES SAFETY) scissors in there!

Of course as we all know safety scissors are called safety scissors because you cant cut flesh with them, but does that matter to the TSA? Does it F**K!!! I was treated like a criminal, with US army standing over me with machine guns while I was questioned as to why they were there!

At times I still cant believe that I was treated this way! I mean come on even if I had a standard pair of scissors, or if some terrorist did, how wud i take over a plane with them? :S

Oh and back to the original story, so what! my schools i've been too always gave us scissors!!!! yes they were kept in a tub on the side so we could use them as need be.


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RE: 4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At School

Mon Dec 13, 2004 5:38 pm

Whats used to cut paper in schools 'Knifes'
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RE: 4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At School

Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:39 pm

Wow, thank God I live in NZ Big grin
 
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RE: 4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At School

Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:46 pm

This is totally nuts if it's true.
I mean come on. You can use anything as a weapon then. It's so easy to stab someone with a pencil as well.

So I really hope that this isn't true.
 
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RE: 4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At School

Mon Dec 13, 2004 8:20 pm

So the school also doesn't have any scissors that the staff can use?

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RE: 4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At School

Tue Dec 14, 2004 2:54 am

Students stab each other with pens and pencils in school, so when will they ban those?  Big grin

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RE: 4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At School

Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:29 am

I can just see the little girl hijack her school and crash it into a skyscraper... right?  Insane

Guys, could you please not all turn into a bunch of crazy paranoid freaks?

If anything, it´s not a multi-purpose and almost always "civilian" tool that would lead to somebody getting hurt, but a person being angry, frustrated or crazy enough to mis-use it to hurt anybody. And unless the girl was a really scary little monster, this is really way, way out there...
 
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RE: 4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At Sch

Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:35 am

When I was about 10 years old, my father gave me a quite big Spanish pocket knife as a gift from a journey. I was very proud of it and one day brought it to school to show to my class mates. For me the thing was a tool, to be used e.g. for whittling wood. A stupid idiot of a class mate took it during break and held it at the neck of a girl, who obviously became very afraid and started to cry. The teacher noticed it and confiscated the knife. She sent a letter to my parents telling them about the thing. My mother came to school and picked up the knife and returned it to me with the order never to bring it to school again. She also explained to ther teacher that we (my brother and myself) got taught to see a knife as a tool and not as a weapon.

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RE: 4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At School

Tue Dec 14, 2004 6:19 am

For those that have been blaming Bush and/or 9/11 security for this, need to read the last few paragraphs of the article:

The scissors were discovered while students' belongings were being searched for property missing from a teacher's desk.

School district officials have promised a crackdown on unruly students this year, and new policies give administrators the power to expel students for infractions as minor as violating the dress code, chronic tardiness or habitual swearing.

Administrators say the steps are needed to regain control over a notoriously unruly school system, but some parents have complained that discipline has been overly harsh and that school officials have been too quick to call police about minor problems.


First, and foremost, I will admit that this school officials grossly over-reacted in this particular instance. However, the incident took place in a Philadelphia school. FYI, the Philadelphia school district is known for having problems with student unruliness that has lead to shootings and stabbings even in elementary schools... years before Columbine (which occured in a suburban high school). I knew someone who taught in the Phila. school district for one year. She left the job because for her, it was hell on earth. Her coming from the western part of the state, needless to say, contributed to the culture shock

Only in Bush's Amerikkka

More like, "Only in Philadelphia." City of Brotherly Love.


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RE: 4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At School

Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:21 am

At least she wasn't serving jello shots to her classmates:

http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/121104cckkWWLTVjello.2fa85d18.html

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RE: 4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At School

Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:29 am

Please, let's keep politics AWAY from this discussion. I like things FAIR and BALANCED, not TIPPED.
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RE: 4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At School

Tue Dec 14, 2004 2:02 pm

Who the hell gives his daugther such a ridiculous name?

Actually, Porsche isn't all that bad when you consider it against some of these "Bad Baby Names" from the Rock 103 FM web site http://www.rock103.com:

Roczilla Shananna Dodds

or

SherShiela Swallows

or

Pinkikneese Thomas

See http://www.rock103.com/drakeandzeke/_bbn/index.html for more...

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RE: 4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At School

Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:56 pm

I am a bit late coming into this discussion but I'll still voice my 2 cents worth. I think that the cops and school really overreacted on this one. The girl didn't threaten anyone with the scissors so why didn't the school officials just take them away? I think it's pretty ridiculous that a 4th grader gets an arrest record for bringing a pair of scissors to school.

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RE: 4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At School

Tue Dec 14, 2004 5:20 pm

The thing that worries me some is the fact that the teachers were searching the kids bags. Thats real odd. Now thats a breach of the girls privacy. God I hope the teachers don't consider the kids a terrirost threat now.

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RE: 4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At School

Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:09 am

Porsche Brown?

... Who the hell gives his daugther such a ridiculous name?


Maybe the girl's parents must've recently watched A Fish Called Wanda at the time they named their daughter; for those unfamiliar with film, the daughter's name in the film is also Porshe.  Laugh out loud

All kidding aside, one question not answered in the article was the property missing from the teacher's desk; was the missing item indeed the scissors?
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RE: 4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At School

Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:10 am

"So the school also doesn't have any scissors that the staff can use?"

No, schools have scissors, but students are not allowed to bring their own scissors for use, they must use the school supplied ones...

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Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:46 am

Re: Maybe the girl's parents must've recently watched A Fish Called Wanda at the time they named their daughter; for those unfamiliar with film, the daughter's name in the film is also Porshe

True, but not quite. The character's name in the film is "Portia" pronounced "Por-sha", a little lawyerly jest, because John Cleese plays a lawyer who has named his daughter after a Shakespeare character from "The Merchant of Venice" who dresses as a man and pretends to be a lawyer. Yeah, it's obscure !
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RE: 4th-grader Arrested For Having Scissors At School

Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:05 am

Here's the latest update from the Philadelphia Inquirer

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/10410205.htm

In short, the officials admit that their response was indeed excessive.
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