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UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Fri Dec 24, 2004 10:11 am

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1413501,00.html

Sex scandal in Congo threatens to engulf UN's peacekeepers
By Jonathan Clayton and James Bone
They should be rebuilding the country, but foreign workers face serious accusations

HOME-MADE pornographic videos shot by a United Nations logistics expert in the Democratic Republic of Congo have sparked a sex scandal that threatens to become the UN’s Abu Ghraib.
The expert was a Frenchman who worked at Goma airport as part of the UN’s $700 million-a-year effort to rebuild the war-shattered country. When police raided his home they discovered that he had turned his bedroom into a studio for videotaping and photographing sex sessions with young girls.

The bed was surrounded by large mirrors on three sides, according to a senior Congolese police officer. On the fourth side was a camera that he could operate from the bed with a remote control.

When the police arrived the man was allegedly about to rape a 12-year-old girl sent to him in a sting operation. Three home-made porn videos and more than 50 photographs were found.



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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Fri Dec 24, 2004 10:17 am

No comment by you?
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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Fri Dec 24, 2004 10:28 am

Those silly Congans.
 
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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Fri Dec 24, 2004 10:30 am

Wait a second, your two most recent thread starts are about French kids beating up Santa, and French UN workers allegedly raping people?

Do you have a particular fascination with that part of the world, or is this something deeper?
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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Fri Dec 24, 2004 11:16 am

Galaxy5,

Since you seem to be interested, take note:

among the 13,100 members of MONUC (UN mission in Congo) there have been 150 alleged cases of misconduct since May 2004, most of sexual nature or related to it, an investigation is inderway.

2 Moroccan soldiers have been flown back (but not indicted in their country)
2 Tunisian soldiers have been "repatriated"
1 South African soldier for rape on the person of a female SA officer
other soldiers from contingents of South Africa, Pakistan, Nepal, Uruguay, Morocco, Tunisia are investigated, as well as civilian members of MONUC, including a Russian who allegedly was conducting a large scale sex-oriented business, and the French you gladly mentioned, and an American citizen who has a record of setting up lucrative sex ops in every place he has been.

Next to this, the official DRC army, the various friendly and rebel factions and militias, and foreign troops in the NE of Congo have been doing exactly the same, though on a larger scale for several years. Except for AIDS, these ones have nothing to fear.

Should we elaborate on the French one ?

 
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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Fri Dec 24, 2004 11:35 am

I think the news is a freakin joke. All they report is that bad stuff....never anything good. People are allowed to have sex arent they?? As long as it can be prooved that it is rape...it is not ok.
 
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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Fri Dec 24, 2004 11:38 am

whats the AIDS % in Congo?
 
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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Fri Dec 24, 2004 11:58 am

Adult men having sex with 12-year old girls is NEVER okay, whether the girl consents to it or not.
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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Fri Dec 24, 2004 12:03 pm

All of it is just WRONG.
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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Fri Dec 24, 2004 10:00 pm

ScarletHarlot,

A 12 year old African girl is physically as developped as a 15-17 year white Caucasian and her mental is a lot stronger. Many are married at age 14-15 and have children.

Might sound strange to you, but this has been normal practice and behaviour in black African societies ever.
 
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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Fri Dec 24, 2004 10:47 pm

Of course the UN personel have other things to fear, DRC is one of the most dangerous places on earth, diseases and violence is common.
I think it´s a good sign that these things aren´t brushed aside, like a lot of things where in Sierra Leone.
I feel sad that Katanga didn´t become a country, UN is to blame for the
current state of the DRC area.


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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Fri Dec 24, 2004 10:47 pm

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ScarletHarlot,

A 12 year old African girl is physically as developped as a 15-17 year white Caucasian and her mental is a lot stronger. Many are married at age 14-15 and have children.

Might sound strange to you, but this has been normal practice and behaviour in black African societies ever.


Wow,So its totally ok with you to rape a 12 year old child. no wonder Europe is so screwed up,



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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Sat Dec 25, 2004 12:42 am

Who said "RAPE" ? can you stick to what you see or read or are you another one of those with blurred vision, jumping to conclusions without spending a tenth of a second trying to assess what the picture actually was ?

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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Sat Dec 25, 2004 12:53 am

no wonder Europe is so screwed up

As if the rest of the world was not.....(at least I don't think we never had some equivalent to Waco or Columbine...aprt from some small mass suicides)
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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Sat Dec 25, 2004 1:10 am

Wow,So its totally ok with you to rape a 12 year old child. no wonder Europe is so screwed up,

Come on Galaxy, we know you are just bashing Europe and France. Last I checked, the USA is just as "screwed up" as Europe. You don't seem to have a problem with some Mormans and polygamists in Utah having 10 wives, some of them 12 year old girls. There are lots of cults out there that believe in that shit. But hey, its in the USA so its ok!!!!  Insane  Yeah sure
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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Sat Dec 25, 2004 2:43 am

no wonder Europe is so screwed up,

Says it all really. Are you saying the underage rapes in the US are different from the ones that happen here (or don't, in this case)? Maybe you should check on the number of 17 year olds (children, by the way) executed by the US in the last decade, then come back on your high horse.
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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Sat Dec 25, 2004 5:58 am

Wow,So its totally ok with you to rape a 12 year old child.

If this had happened at Abu Ghraib we'd be hearing the Euros and U.S. liberals calling for Rumsfeld's execution and Bush's impeachment. The NY Slimes would being running front pages stories on it for at least 6 months blaming Bush, Cheney, and Halliburton. Since it is troops from "acceptable" countries and under the U.N. flag, it will be ignored.
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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Sat Dec 25, 2004 6:10 am

If this had happened at Abu Ghraib we'd be hearing the Euros and U.S. liberals calling for Rumsfeld's execution and Bush's impeachment. The NY Slimes would being running front pages stories on it for at least 6 months blaming Bush, Cheney, and Halliburton. Since it is troops from "acceptable" countries and under the U.N. flag, it will be ignored.

Shit man, do you have to turn EVERYTHING into a liberal vs conservative battle? It's getting OLD, and really fast too.

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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Sat Dec 25, 2004 7:41 am

Wow,So its totally ok with you to rape a 12 year old child. no wonder Europe is so screwed up,

Ummm..... Yeah dumbass!
All of us are like that.

No its not OK to rape a 12 year old girl. It's totally disgusting. I hope they will get what they deserve. And I know prison inmates really loves when a rapist gets sentenced to jail.
He will be their bitch for the rest of his stay in jail.
 
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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Sat Dec 25, 2004 9:01 am

"If this had happened at Abu Ghraib we'd be hearing the Euros and U.S. liberals calling for Rumsfeld's execution and Bush's impeachment. The NY Slimes would being running front pages stories on it for at least 6 months blaming Bush, Cheney, and Halliburton. Since it is troops from "acceptable" countries and under the U.N. flag, it will be ignored."

And that's the way it goes.....sadly.
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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Sat Dec 25, 2004 3:25 pm

"Shit man, do you have to turn EVERYTHING into a liberal vs conservative battle?"

You have to admit that when the liberals have a brain hemorage regarding Abu Ghraib, but completely ignore the UN oil for food scandal, or raping underage girls, it rings just a teensy weensy bit hypocritical.
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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Sat Dec 25, 2004 7:22 pm

And I know prison inmates really loves when a rapist gets sentenced to jail. He will be their bitch for the rest of his stay in jail. And how would you know that OYRJA?.....Infact I don't think that I want to know.
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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Sat Dec 25, 2004 7:29 pm

And how would you know that OYRJA?.....Infact I don't think that I want to know.

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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Sat Dec 25, 2004 10:13 pm

Obviously some fathers have dramatically failed to give a proper education to their boys.
It would be reassuring to know that "young US conservative" is not necessarily synonimous to half blind, pissed off, trigger happy (poster), mentally retarded, born to rant, connected to the internet and disconnected from the world.

If any of those would have paid some attention to the article they could have realized that it only refers to one girl "allegedly going to be raped", at the very least a very subjective opinion.
They could also have read that girls provide their "services" for anything between 1 and 3$, and are doing so willingly in order to survive, which makes rape a very unlikely or very rare prospect.

If any of you would know what sexual practices are like in black Africa, they would have known that girls know very accurately about it usually before they reach the age of 10, that many are no longer virgins by the age of 12, that many are married by age 14, and that sex is not part of any taboo, it is performed rather openly and as many times as nature permits.

Add to this the extreme economic hardships, and if you put sexually inhibited men in the picture you get a sex circus, not a rape factory.

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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Sun Dec 26, 2004 12:29 am

"If any of those would have paid some attention to the article they could have realized that it only refers to one girl "allegedly going to be raped", at the very least a very subjective opinion."

There's much more than one.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4122417.stm

"Add to this the extreme economic hardships, and if you put sexually inhibited men in the picture you get a sex circus,"

A sex circus???

"Grow up and get a life"

No need to get nasty.
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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Sun Dec 26, 2004 1:17 am

"If this had happened at Abu Ghraib we'd be hearing the Euros and U.S. liberals calling for Rumsfeld's execution and Bush's impeachment. The NY Slimes would being running front pages stories on it for at least 6 months blaming Bush, Cheney, and Halliburton. Since it is troops from "acceptable" countries and under the U.N. flag, it will be ignored."


If you cared to learn more about the war you should know that abuse of prisoners did not ony happen in Abu Graib. Unfortunatly it happened in then Danish camp as well.
And if you got a broader view you should have been able too see and read that there was a big case in Denmark as well and we wanted people to resign.

So cut your crap about us Euros are being so damn holy. Because we are not!! You just look like a damn fool.
 
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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Sun Dec 26, 2004 2:44 am

"Who said "RAPE" ?"

The BBC did, for starters: "The United Nations mission in the Democratic Republic of Congo, Monuc, has demanded the punishment of 78 soldiers accused of raping 119 women."
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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Sun Dec 26, 2004 12:58 pm

Last I checked, the USA is just as "screwed up" as Europe. You don't seem to have a problem with some Mormans and polygamists in Utah having 10 wives, some of them 12 year old girls. There are lots of cults out there that believe in that shit. But hey, its in the USA so its ok!!!!

You know, the Mormons even have a problem with the polygamy shit. Check your facts once in a while. They may annoy the holy hell out of me at the bus stop but they are not a religion of perverts.

There are far more stories of incest and pedophilia (by priests/church officials) in the history of the Catholic church if you really want to go down this path.
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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Sun Dec 26, 2004 1:09 pm

I am sorry but comments like this:
"I think the news is a freakin joke. All they report is that bad stuff....never anything good. People are allowed to have sex arent they?? As long as it can be prooved that it is rape...it is not ok." defines diarrhea of the mouth.

As for those who said..."quit jumping to conclusions!" Back where I come from, if you have a 12 year old girl with a camera, three mirrors, videotapes, and pictures in your bedroom....you are considered a rapist. If that is not so in other places, I prey for those locals.


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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Sun Dec 26, 2004 1:34 pm

"Back where I come from, if you have a 12 year old girl with a camera, three mirrors, videotapes, and pictures in your bedroom....you are considered a rapist"

And/or R. Kelly.
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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Sun Dec 26, 2004 1:42 pm

Yes, and R.Kelly... and that sick bastard still makes millions singing about what he does with women.  Angry
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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Mon Dec 27, 2004 1:43 am

Maverick,

When someone translates "accused of" into "guilty" or "guilty until proven innocent" I am asking myself a few questions about the humanity and the sense of justice of the translator. You don't ?

I admit, it is for me a shocking and unfortunately daily astonishment to see (mostly) very young people jumping to such lightning fast conclusions without having the smallest clue about the subject. I guess it is a side effect of the internet education, which by the way, seems to be favored far above college or parental education. Sad thing if you ask me.

Yes, "where I come from....." does apply in most of the so-called Western world / cocooned people.
It is less so, or even not at all when teenagers are family heads or have to care for themselves, in addition to the fact that in normal (peaceful) times
sexuality bears no taboo and nature only dictates.

Yes, prey for the locals, if they are boys they have been enlisted, given an AK-47, dope and a passport for hell, if they are girls they have no other option but to sell themselves to survive.

Yes, the UN has to be happy with whatever troops volunteer to go on such missions.

The 7th spouse of Mahomet, the prophet, was 12 years old....does it make him a rapist ?

 
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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Mon Dec 27, 2004 1:55 am

Don´t forget that these acts were done by criminal individuals, and not condoned by government institutions. So you can´t compare this event with Abu Graib.

BTW, for some people it is already a sex crime if a soldier goes to an adult prostitute to have consentual sex.
Recently the American Army command in Germany passed an order (BTW, adult prostitution is legal in Germany), making it illegal for American soldiers to visit prostitutes, even if off duty and out of uniform.

Historically, the US Army in Europe after WW1 had a much higher rate of SMDs than the aother military (British, German, French). The reason was that the American government refused to give the soldiers condoms, based on something like "Our good boys don´t do something nasty like having sex!".

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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Mon Dec 27, 2004 4:07 am

Captoveur, You know, the Mormons even have a problem with the polygamy shit. Check your facts once in a while. They may annoy the holy hell out of me at the bus stop but they are not a religion of perverts.

I didn't say that that was the basis of the Mormon religion. There are some that partake in it. Not very many, but they still do. In your own words, check your facts once in a while.

http://www.lds-mormon.com/polygamy.shtml

There are far more stories of incest and pedophilia (by priests/church officials) in the history of the Catholic church if you really want to go down this path.

Agreed. That just further proves my point, that the USA is not the perfect little holy and law abiding country that Galaxy5 implies it to be.
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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Mon Dec 27, 2004 4:59 am

"There are far more stories of incest and pedophilia (by priests/church officials) in the history of the Catholic church if you really want to go down this path."

So? What does that have to do with the time of day? There are still UN soldiers accused of rape--other cases of incest or pedophilia do not lessen the charges.
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RE: UN Sex Scandal In The Congo

Mon Dec 27, 2004 5:04 am

There is nothing such as a UN soldier, there are soldiers on a UN mission.
Call them Nepalese, Moroccons, Pakistani, Uruguyans, Tunisians, etc...

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