Well, thank you all for your responses. I'm going to try to do a "SlamClick" here and kind of spill my guts. In advance I'm an admirer of Mr. "Click". Aside from the fact that the poor b*****d hasn't taken part in this, so it would seem unfair on the surface to make a nod to him. Aside from the fact that he has (reluctantly) become the TechOps guru ("Where is Skipper when we need him?"), he also will occasional jump in with both feet and give the benefit of his opinion without giving a damn whether the folks on the site like it or not. (Which is exactly what a pax should want in a guy flying left seat.... if he's got a little grey hair, and four stripes, settle back and read a book.... you're probably in good hands.)
I was looking for all responses. I should have bet on it, because I felt I would get the expected knee jerk responses, but was also looking for some considered responses. (BTW-I still haven't given my opinion..... read on)
Briefly to respond to some of you before the gut spilling starts:
(with a minimum of sarcasm, but not without some chuckles)
, so does your employer pay by the day?
.... but seriously, looking at your profile I can see that you and I share a love of Civil Aviation from childhood (flew repeatedly before birth, forget about afterward) and are not that dissimilar in age. I feel for you about the sun thing.... the only part of flying into ANC
in the winter that I didn't like was that I couldn't walk out to Merryl (spelling is wrong) Field from the hotel.... too damned cold and way too dangerous to walk in the dark.....that and Peggy's airport diner's biscuits and cream gravy left something to be desired. A gentle reminder, that your 24 years in the military were specifically to support the protection of the rights of Americans to protest. One of the things that makes me so happy to be a USA citizen (maybe more on that later) is our right to dissent and not have to worry that some as****e is going to break into your house in the middle of the night and kill your family.... But vigilance of your government is in contrast, your responsibility as well as your right. Enough said.
NWAFA: Thanks. You and I share not only age but professional experience. Being an F/A. If there is a more unrecognized group of people who are maligned and made fun of.... none come to mind. Also, you have a little acknowledged part of your job which makes you perfect to comment on people in general. In the course of your job you see a cross section of the Global Population, forget about just Americans. By nature F/As are an optimistic and nurturing group..... for not a lot of $$$. Optimistic because your primary job is trying to always be prepared in case the guys in front (or acts of god) make it necessary to quit smiling and start putting out fires, pull pax from "other exits", ie) holes in the fuselage.... and nurturing, because in spite of how much of a jerk the guy in 37C is, you're still committed to trying to give him good service and do what ever it takes to "not declare him dead" until you land.
You see the otherside.
Ltbewr: Ditto on your response. A considered one. Judging by your location and age (yes it does come into it..... Christ! I'm starting to identify with Benj. Franklin) I'll bet you have stories to tell about 9/11. And yeah, the guy is definitely paranoid. He KNOWS how close the election was!
Pilotaydin: No I wasn't including you in the teenagers (I actually LIKE teenagers by the way..... an interesting bunch of half formed adults I spend my day beating my head against the wall sometimes trying to teach them.... I also listen to them... they may be young but young does not automatically equal stupid). I found your post indicative of what many people outside and maybe within the USA probably feel. If I'm quoting you out of context, I apologize in advance.
"..... he ("Osama") already has 49% of the united states on his side as far as being against Bush, and a lot of money is already draining out for the war....just imagine, if 49% of America actually did that, it would be such a day for Osama, regardless of the 2 cents it would shift in terms of gross economy, it would divide Americans even more...."
The fact is that here, in the US, being against our President's policies does NOT make us FOR
Osama or anything he stands for (more about that when I start spilling my guts).
But thanks for jumping in and giving a considered reply.
Bravo7e7: The reason you can now vote at 18 (until 1972 it was 21) is quite frankly because people my age (there it is again!) put pressure on the Feds to make it so. We felt, and I still stick by it, that if a guy was old enough to be drafted, then by god he was old enough to vote for/or against the guys who were sending him out to be scared sh****ss and possibly killed. Think about it.
It's spill my guts time. First of all I'm a mother. Mother's by nature are against WAR..... just because they hate seeing their sons (now daughters as well) die. Period. We love them. It seems unfair to lose them. All of that aside....
My background. I was born and raised in NY. I AM
against the war in Iraq. Not oddly enough, I was NOT against bombing Afghanistan back to the Stone Age if it would mean catching that no good s*n of a b***h Osama Bin Laddin. For some mysterious reason the government got sidetracked and he's still out there chuckling up his sleeve and making videos to influence the more gullible of the population that a vote for Bush was a vote against him. I'll bet he leans against his beast of burden every day and laughs until tears run down his cheeks that he pulled that one off! I feel that Mr. Bush made a grave error in going into Iraq under false pretenses.... and to ward off the inevitable "Pinko Commie" comments, I am proud to come from a family who has fought in every war this country has been involved in since the French and Indian war. No kidding. Also, big deal, as in "Who cares?". As they say here in NY.... "That and $2.00 will get me on the subway"
By the grace of a higher being and my employers scheduling, I was not at Ground Zero the day the WTC was attacked. I was in my 2nd floor loft on the Brooklyn waterfront.... a very safe across the water distance away. Minus the first 60 seconds of the attacks, I stood with everyone else and watched (and smelled...and continued to smell for weeks) the entire horror. We as a neighborhood lost a number of people; primarily firefighters, a few of them very close friends. For all the heroic hoopla, there wasn't one member of their immediate families or extended friends who wouldn't gladly trade the elaborate funeral or flag or "benefits for the children" to have them back.
Within two days I was recruited to work in the Family Assistance center. Airlines always train some folks to tell to tell other folks that quite frankly, "Your family member did not survive". A sterile way to say, "They're dead, get on with it, is there anything we can do to make it any easier?" I had that training, was more than happy (?) to help (?) and it was tough. But I'll tell you, definitively, it was a s**t load harder for the families I worked with. I've already spilled my guts about this in relation to security, but to make a long story short, I realized that I (in relation to my then job) had met Mohammed Atta and four of his fellow terrorists, and to my dismay had sold them a ticket for what was probably their last up close and personal view of the WTC before they knocked it down. A helicopter trip. I reported it to the FBI, they interviewed me five or six times, thanked me profusely for the information I was able (not much) to help them with his activities in the weeks before the attacks.... and that was that.
I never want to see that sort of thing happen again.
I am fully behind any kind of PEACEFUL demonstration to add to the deluge of other United States citizens who seriously question Mr. Bush's current policies, both foreign and domestic.
A side note to Bravo7e7 and other guys here your age; you're too young to remember some very violent protests here in the US. I'm thinking specifically of the riots of 1968 in the ghettos.... some of that was due to them feeling, probably rightly so, that a large number of their population was being "drafted", because they were too damned poor to get into college and get deferments.
Well, at any rate. Maybe I'll do it and maybe I won't. But I firmly stand behind the sentiment..... actually, I probably will. If I forget to buy the milk the night before, I'll tough it out....
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Once again wishing you all a Happy, Healthy and hopefully, peaceful and prosperous New Year.
There's nothing more beautiful than flying into the dawn.