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The Official SoCal Thread

Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:08 am

So exactly how many of you live, or have lived in Southern California?

For starters, I know myself, Superfly, and Tom In NO are SoCal Alumni. And that guy Mds00...something or other (sorry, I don't remember it) lives not far from me in Corona.

I currently live in Riverside. I also can claim La Palma, Chino, West Covina, and San Dimas as past hometowns as well.

Also, are any of you planning on attending the SoCal Airliner Expo in two weeks?

I'm planning on being there. Maybe we can all meet up, then go watch a few planes while downing a Double-Double....

Nah...maybe we'll 86 the In-N-Out. After all....EVERYBODY will likely want to go there.....most of them won't have cars though. At least we will. We can disappear somewhere into the vast LA metropolis away from the touristy spots and grab some local cuisine somewhere while having a beer and talking some things over, sort of like how me, KROC, Miroddie, and BigPhil did at JFK and LGA back in 2003.

So anyway, getting back on topic. This is where we can discuss anything SoCal related. After all, there is more to LA than LAX and Hollywierd......(I think).

How about that rain?

Ever ridden the Metrolink? I have...between Riverside and Covina via San Bernardino....it was an interesting ride.

Anyone have FASTRAK? I do, although I rarely use it. It is a handy thing to have whenever the need to drive into OC from here arises. That 91 is a clusterf**k pretty much around the clock.

When are they going to finish the damn 710 between East LA and Pasadena? It's been stalling for over 30 years now!

If you want the best, slimiest, greasiest, but tastiest fried chicken, go to Pioneer in Bell Gardens, right at the corner of Florence and Garfield.

Speaking of In-N-Out, I live right in the Double-Double Black Hole zone. There are three of them around here....one on Madison/91, further up in Riverside, another at Serfas Club and 91, in Corona, and one on Van Buren, over on the Mira Loma side of Riverside. All are about 6 miles away from me, and not very easy to get to with any degree of speed or ease, which means that I can't get In-N-Out and bring it back home to eat fresh. I have to eat it there.

Ain't that a bitch?

The city of San Dimas just isn't the same now that the big Levitz sign has been torn down. It was tall. It was in a state of disrepair. And the cheezy baby blue and pink neon....sheesh....talk about bad colors....

But you could see it coming over the hill from the 210/57/71/10 Interchange heading north, and it was the sign that you were coming home.

SPEAKING of which, what's the deal with renaming the stretch of 210 between the Interchange and the Glendora/San Dimas 210 junction the 57?

The 57 don't go through San Dimas! That's the Diamond Bar-Brea-Orange freeway!

The Arrow Highway exit in San Dimas is off the 210.

Even though all the signs have been changed, it will always to me, be the 210.

So how about that Ontario Mills and Victoria Gardens malls?

Mills is nice, but IMO, too big and overbuilt. Ever try and get in and out of there on the weekends? It's a lost cause......Milliken, Inland Empire Blvd, and 4th Street are pretty buch jammed solid. And that labarynthine layout.....yikes...don't go there unless you plan on spending at least an hour or 12 there. It will take you that long JUST to find the store you want and park.

And now what genius thought it would be a good idea to build an equally oversize mall only TWO freaking miles away? Foothill Blvd was already jammed up enough even when that spot was an open field.

You oughtta see it now!

Ok...enough of my ranting.
 
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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:47 am

I live somewhere in SoCal, 2 miles south of the In'n'Out off of Serfas Club... I will be going out to visit Northrop-Grumman Wed. afternoon to look at 'something', rain should be gone by then. Will be seeing someone from the opposite gender tomorrow night in Loma Linda - a place that I often drive by but never stop. Maybe I can swing a stop at the SoCal show....

Lately my life has consisted of spending time at various facilities between Serfas Club and Weir/Yorba Linda Blvd. Just making a ton of noise amongst the Million dollar homes.....

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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:09 am

Matt D:
When are they going to finish the damn 710 between East LA and Pasadena? It's been stalling for over 30 years now!

HA, ain't gonna happen!
I've seen maps from the 1950s that has the dotted (proposed) 710 going through South Pasadena. A good friend of mine used to live in the destruction path. It's too much money in South Pasadena and the South end of Pasadena. That is some high real estate and would disturb there 'tranquil paradise'.

Look at how fast the Century freeway went up out to LAX cutting through South Central L.A.
Those homes were bought for about $115,000 a piece and they all moved out to Rialto (another dump).

After reading about those restaturants, I am now hungry.
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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:22 am

That's right....we also have Clearmans North Woods Inn!!!!!!! Maybe we could go to the one in La Mirada. It's only about 30 min from LAX.

Or if you like pastrami piled 6 inches high served in a bun the size of a football, then may I recommend The Hat. Unfortunately there are none anywhere close to LAX. Probably the closest Hat to LAX would be the one in Monterrey Park, off the 60 and Atlantic.

There is also a great pastrami place near LAX. The name escapes me, but I believe it's right at Sepulveda and Washington in Culver City.

Superfly, whenever you decide to come down again, I'll take you to those recording stores in West Hollywood.
 
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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:37 am

For you L.A guys...

What's the best route to drive from LAX to Glendora, CA? What's the approx. time to destination and how is traffic on a sunday morning/early afternoon?

BTW, I'm in San Diego for about 2 months in a year in Pacific Beach in the summer. Does this make me a SoCal'er? haha.

Kevin

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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:38 am

I sneak a trip down to LA some time in the spring. When I say sneak, I mean a trip the family doesn't know about because then they'll try to occupy my time and give me guilt trips if I don't hang out with them. Considering I don't get much time off of work, I cant spend too much time down there and you know first hand how bad traffic can be down there. There's no way I can do Riverside, Irvine, Woodland Hills, Northridge, Baldwin Hills, Rancho Cungamonga(sp) and Glendora all in 3 or 4 days.
My next trip down there will be a friend's only trip.
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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:41 am

LAX-Glendora:

I-105 East
I-605-north
I-210 east.

Glendora Exits: Azusa, Citrus, Grand, Sunflower.

Approx 45 miles.....early Sunday AM will take you about 35-40 minutes tops. Not usually much traffic at that time. If you were to take the same drive on-say a Friday afternoon around 1600, you're looking at a good 2-3 hours.

Sunday early afternoon is anybodys guess on traffic, but I wouldn't recommend it if you can help it.
 
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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:47 am

According to mapquest, it's 25 miles...how'd you get 45 miles? What the nearest general aviation airport from Glendora? Chino Airport? It's probably where I have to go on Jan. 23.

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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:49 am

Yea, how the weather  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:49 am

As the crow flies it might be 25 miles, but unless the odometer in every single car I owned was seriously off, when I lived in West Covina, I paced the milage at 43. Taking into account the difference, I come to about 45. I didn't mean that as literal. That's just my edumacated guess. I know for a fact that just the 105 from LAX to the 605 junction is about 15 miles. There is no way in hell that it's only 10 miles from Norwalk to Glendora.

And the nearest GenAv airport to Glendora is Brackett, in La Verne.

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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:51 am

Ok, thanks Matty.

Helps alot.

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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:59 am

I have visited SoCal once, and it is neat, but I don't think I would ever want to live there. Sure the weather is nice, but everything is so land-locked. You would have to drive for at least a hour to find the country. Plus I don't care to deal with earthquakes, forest fires, and mudslides. I do have a cousin that moved out to Costa Mesa, and now lives in Huntington Beach, within view of the ocean. She loves it. If I had to live in SoCal, I would rather live in the San Diego or San Jose area.
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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Tue Jan 11, 2005 12:02 pm

I agree..that is something I wish we had easier access to...was the countryside.

You can still see a little of it in the San Jacinto Valley, east of March ARB near Hemet. But it's rapidly being developed. Otherwise you need to drive over the Grapevine into the San Joaquin Valley, or down past the Salton Sea into the Imperial Valley. And neither is an easy drive, unless you live in Santa Clarita or Palm Springs respectively.

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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Tue Jan 11, 2005 12:06 pm

Damn MattD, that was a mouthful  Smile:

Myself, I can claim Cypress (lived there 9 months), Corona, and LA. I come to Corona on weekends and leave on Sundays for work. To get to your list....

The rain...peice of $hit. I don't care if non-Californians call us whiners...this is bad.

I didn't know about the expo, what's the exact day? 2 weeks is my anniversary with my girlfriend so I guess that's a negative for me.

Ever ridden the Metrolink? I have...between Riverside and Covina via San Bernardino....it was an interesting ride.

I took the Metrolink many years ago from the Serfas Club station into downtown Riverside. The trains were VERY nice but expensive. Not bad though. My cousin used to take it daily to work in Tustin.

I still want to ride a little of the 2 miles of existing subway track in Los Angeles. It pisses me off that those rich snots in Beverly Hills keep blocking efforts to extend a rail line into West LA. I could have used something like that when I didn't have a car here.

Anyone have FASTRAK? I do, although I rarely use it. It is a handy thing to have whenever the need to drive into OC from here arises. That 91 is a clusterf**k pretty much around the clock.

Fastrak is my savior when I'm coming back home on a Friday night! Since my exit comes right after the toll lanes end, I get to entirely avoid said clusterf*ck on the 91. That and it's pretty easy to cheat and go into the 3+ lane.  Big grin

SPEAKING of which, what's the deal with renaming the stretch of 210 between the Interchange and the Glendora/San Dimas 210 junction the 57?

The 57 don't go through San Dimas! That's the Diamond Bar-Brea-Orange freeway!

The Arrow Highway exit in San Dimas is off the 210.

Even though all the signs have been changed, it will always to me, be the 210.


I know what you mean...that one threw me off the first time I saw it. It's that damn 210 Extension to the 15 that messed it all up. Which reminds me, WHEN are they going to finish the 71 North? I go so fast on that freeway, only to get bottlenecked on either side.

And now what genius thought it would be a good idea to build an equally oversize mall only TWO freaking miles away? Foothill Blvd was already jammed up enough even when that spot was an open field.

I still have to go to the place in Rancho. But from what I hear, It's a lot like The Spectrum, so I might as well stick with something I know.

If you want the best, slimiest, greasiest, but tastiest fried chicken, go to Pioneer in Bell Gardens, right at the corner of Florence and Garfield.

Haven't eaten at Pioneer but I've REALLY been craving some Roscoe's. Have you gotten a chance to check out Miguel's?

I live somewhere in SoCal, 2 miles south of the In'n'Out off of Serfas Club...

Aerobalance, do you live in Sierra Del Oro?

BTW, I'm in San Diego for about 2 months in a year in Pacific Beach in the summer. Does this make me a SoCal'er? haha

Cmon! You know San Diego doesn't count as SoCal.  Big grin


Another question for SoCal'ers. I saw the very first episode of The O.C. (though nobody in Orange County ever calls it that) when it came out and I remember the way they showed Chino, and portrayed the Inland Empire. Anyone hear about that or get offended by that? What would be interesting is an episode where the cast takes a wrong turn and wind up in Garbage Grove (no offense to those that live there). Now THAT is the O.C.

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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Tue Jan 11, 2005 12:12 pm

I spent much of 1998-2001 documenting the progress of the 210 extension, and took countless pictures of it in various stages of construction. I now need to go take some "finished" shots and post some before and after pictures here.
 
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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Tue Jan 11, 2005 12:15 pm

" ... For starters, I know myself, Superfly, and Tom In NO are SoCal Alumni. And that guy Mds00...something or other (sorry, I don't remember it) lives not far from me in Corona. ... "



Matt,

I started the SoCal weather thread because I really live in North Dakota. (not)

It would have been great to meet you too.
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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Tue Jan 11, 2005 5:02 pm

Okay... I'll take a stab:

So exactly how many of you live, or have lived in Southern California?

I grew up in El Monte (look, SOMEBODY had to!). Also lived in Pomona, Glendora, Monrovia, and now make my home in Burbank.

Also, are any of you planning on attending the SoCal Airliner Expo in two weeks?
I'm planning on being there. Maybe we can all meet up, then go watch a few planes while downing a Double-Double....
Nah...maybe we'll 86 the In-N-Out. After all....EVERYBODY will likely want to go there.....most of them won't have cars though. At least we will. We can disappear somewhere into the vast LA metropolis away from the touristy spots and grab some local cuisine somewhere while having a beer and talking some things over, sort of like how me, KROC, Miroddie, and BigPhil did at JFK and LGA back in 2003.


I'd like to go, but I've been living in self-imposed imprisonment trying to get work done, so this is the first I've heard about it. If people are interested, it might be fun to do an LAX-Victorville or LAX-Mohave road trip--I haven't been able to do any photography at the storage facilities yet. Since I've got a minivan, I can take passengers.

Alternately, I'm always up for dinner and drinking. Any of you carnivorous folks been to a Churrascuria yet? There are two--one in West Covina and another in Burbank--that are awesome. All-you-can-eat, and nobody cares if you linger for hours.

Ever ridden the Metrolink? I have...between Riverside and Covina via San Bernardino....it was an interesting ride.

It's pretty cool--I've used it a few times when I lived in Pomona and got cursed with jury duty in downtown LA. Sure beat the San Bernadino freeway.

When are they going to finish the damn 710 between East LA and Pasadena? It's been stalling for over 30 years now!

I predict never. Caltrans already owns a lot of those homes--drive the proposed route and you'll see many of them standing abandoned. The South Pas folks have enough money, though, that I suspect they'll keep this in court forever.

If you want the best, slimiest, greasiest, but tastiest fried chicken, go to Pioneer in Bell Gardens, right at the corner of Florence and Garfield.

There was a Pioneer in El Monte, but I didn't know any of the chain survived the 80s. Still, the slimiest and greasiest chicken award (though I wouldn't call it the best) has to go to Church's. They should sell defibrillators with that stuff.

Speaking of In-N-Out, I live right in the Double-Double Black Hole zone. There are three of them around here....one on Madison/91, further up in Riverside, another at Serfas Club and 91, in Corona, and one on Van Buren, over on the Mira Loma side of Riverside. All are about 6 miles away from me, and not very easy to get to with any degree of speed or ease, which means that I can't get In-N-Out and bring it back home to eat fresh. I have to eat it there.

I used to have a similar problem in Pomona--the closest one was on the east end of town and I lived right off the 57. Fortunately, I can walk to the Burbank restaurant now.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

The city of San Dimas just isn't the same now that the big Levitz sign has been torn down. It was tall. It was in a state of disrepair. And the cheezy baby blue and pink neon....sheesh....talk about bad colors.... But you could see it coming over the hill from the 210/57/71/10 Interchange heading north, and it was the sign that you were coming home.

I just drove that stretch of road about an hour ago and didn't realize it was missing. Dammit, now I'm gonna be all bummed whenever I have to go to my Monday night class. But since we're talking about that general area, have you ever been to some of the biker bars in Azusa and Glendora? There's a place that I think was called Seamag Strops--I can't recall what street it was on but someone will know--and you could buy sexual aids or drugs in the ladies' room any night of the week. And if you ever really needed a good ass kicking, there would usually be someone there willing to oblige you.

SPEAKING of which, what's the deal with renaming the stretch of 210 between the Interchange and the Glendora/San Dimas 210 junction the 57? The 57 don't go through San Dimas! That's the Diamond Bar-Brea-Orange freeway! The Arrow Highway exit in San Dimas is off the 210. Even though all the signs have been changed, it will always to me, be the 210.

Hmm... I always found the naming of that freeway to be odd, so I've always avoided thinking much about it. My guess is that it has to do with the 210 continuing due east--Caltrans probably didn't want to confuse people by sending the same road in two different directions, so they renamed the section that turned southward.

So how about that Ontario Mills and Victoria Gardens malls?

WAY farther than I'm willing to drive. If I need something from that far away, I'll get it online.

And now what genius thought it would be a good idea to build an equally oversize mall only TWO freaking miles away? Foothill Blvd was already jammed up enough even when that spot was an open field.

The same idiots who keep expanding the retail centers along I-10 in Montclair and Upland. There used to be a "rush hour" on that freeway, but now there is NO time when you can count on it being clear. I'm just glad I can avoid it now by using the 210.

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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Tue Jan 11, 2005 6:08 pm

Well, grew up in South Pasadena and currently reside in La Canada when I'm home on my school breaks. This rain is a pain in the ass, and I still haven't been out to an In and Out during my winter break.

Leanne,

What is Churrascuria? Sounds interesting.
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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Tue Jan 11, 2005 6:54 pm

TBar:

It's a Brazilian steakhouse--all you can eat with a variety of different meats. Usually they're a bit pricey (plan on at least $60-70 for two including a drink each), but well worth it as long as you aren't a vegetarian. Go hungry.
 
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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Wed Jan 12, 2005 5:23 am

I guess I can say that I also live in Socal... Down in SAN... born and raised there. I go up to LA quite a bit nowadays if 7-10 times a month counts. I travel all over the place. I usually travel to Santa Monica, LAX, Hollywood, Long Beach, the Downtown Los Angeles area, and most of Orange County. I don't have a car so I rely on the Public Transit agencies in Southern California and Amtrak to help me get around. Yes I have taken Metrolink quite a few times. Some trips were for fun... Some were for commuting. All in all Socal isn't a bad place to live IMO. I hope you enjoyed reading this... And yes I will be attending that collection show at LAX on the 22nd.

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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Wed Jan 12, 2005 5:28 am

I was born and raised in San Diego, before I moved to West Lafayette, IN to go to college at Purdue.
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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Wed Jan 12, 2005 6:09 am

For starters, I know myself, Superfly, and Tom In NO are SoCal Alumni

Born in Pasadena at the Huntington Hospital (blocks from the Rose Parade), I'll claim 4 years in San Marino, 18 years in Claremont, and roughly a year each in Glendale and Azusa. Saxdiva, do I recall you being born at Huntington, as well?

You would have to drive for at least a hour to find the country

That's one thing I was never all that crazy about. It always took at least an hour to get anywhere. But that was just it: take an hour or so's drive (depending on where you were) and you could get to the mountains, the desert, or the beach. So it could work for you or against you.

Down here, you can get anywhere you want within minutes. Except the tallest point within 100 miles is the friggin Industrial Canal overpass.....either that or the 15 foot hill at the Audubon Zoo!

Saxdiva:
Don't feel bad about El Monte. I worked for two and a half years for L.A. County's Aviation Division.....one of our airports was El Monte.....as well as Brackett, mentioned elsewhere in this thread. I made countless treks to the airport on Santa Anita Avenue.

Where's this new Victoria Gardens Mall located?

How about that rain?
My three year old and I were out there the week before Christmas. Not a cloud in the sky the entire 4 days we were out. Got some killer pictures coming into LAX from the east, looking north to the mountains and downtown L.A., etc. Just barely beat the rains out. Claremont was at 7.5 inches yesterday, don't know how much more they've gotten.

I'll go along with the majority on the I-710 issue, it'll never get done.

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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Wed Jan 12, 2005 6:11 am

I used to live near Fresno, at Naval Air Station Lemoore...kinda out in the middle of nowhere, but pretty nice place...good flying.

Lived for a short time at NAS North Island as well, on Coronado, San Diego....BEAUTIFUL is not enough words to describe that place...too bad cost of living is so high, otherwise I'd be there in a heartbeat!

Not that it counts for SoCal, but I did live in Monterey for 3 years too...too rainey for my taste.

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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Wed Jan 12, 2005 7:02 am

Ahh Huntington Hospital, my little sister was born there on Christmas Eve. With all the upgrades its quite the state of the art hospital now, serves a large area.
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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:15 am

Anaheim Alumni, born and raised. Don't know if I'll be returnin to SoCal after college, though. We'll see where life (and the aviation industry, for that matter) take me.
 
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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:24 am

SAN isn't SoCal, we are LoCal  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:47 am

LoCal? I get it but what's that suppose to mean? I will be stationed either NAS North Island, NAS Lemoore, or China Lake sometimes next year, but I prefer San Diego, hahah...I'm sure you know why.
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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:02 am

LoCal? I get it but what's that suppose to mean?

Since most people don't include SAN in "SoCal," they've made that one up. LoCal =Low Cal...being the southernmost.
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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:23 am

How could people not include San Diego in SoCal? Thats as far south in California as you can get without going into Mexico.
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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:39 am

Because people lump LA and SD together in SoCal and San Diego isn't LA. Not as crowded and we have a football team  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:44 am

Gocaps16 I hope you get NASNI. You will love it. You will have the weather, the scenery, the women, the USS Ronald Reagan, the USS Midway across the bay and more taco shops that you can shake a stick at.
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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:11 pm

I was a Fullertonian for four years (1986-1990). Nice place to live, one of the most pleasant and well-rounded communities in OC, IMHO. Good responsive city government.

I drove to work in the Peoples Republik of Irvine every day, was always relieved to get back to Fullerton.

Miss: In-n-Out; routinely great Chinese take out food; driving to Silverado (but I bet that's ruined by now); easy drive down to Rosarito; quick pop up to Vegas (now that I'm a pilot, how easy would *that* be); being able to grow anything with modest application of water (like birds of paradise and cala lilys); Orange Empire Railway Museum; the pervasive sound of Sea Stallion 'copters outside my office (gone forever since MCAS-H Tustin closed); strawberries; KNX radio.

Don't Miss: Seismic activity; dust; brown skies; LA attitude; traffic more profound than anything I could ever have imagined; friends and family flying into LAX when I told them not to because "it was $20 cheaper"; having to go to Disneyland "just this once" with same friends and family; filing that form 540 every year ("What, a STATE income tax?!?"); annual check to Bob Citron, County Tax Assessor (what a prize he was...); ricers, ricers, everywhere; Fontana (my wife built houses there).

Forgot about all the pastrami sandwich places, too...

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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Wed Jan 12, 2005 1:08 pm

Sccutler, reading your post made me drive to In-N-Out for a double double add a patty, with onion, no tomato, fries and a chocolate shake. Thanks.
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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Wed Jan 12, 2005 1:14 pm

DHLSAN,

I've done many dets to NASNI when the USS Stennis was homeport in S.D. Too bad they shipped off to Beemerton, WA...haha. I've also been to MCAS Miramar since it's only 15 minutes from the house where I stay whenever im in San Diego.

Kevin

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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Wed Jan 12, 2005 1:33 pm

We will miss the Stennis, but seeing that "76" lit up on the harbor every night is a wonderful sight.

My route borders MCAS Miaramar to the west in the UTC area. Gotta love all the those receptionists in my office buildings.  Big thumbs up
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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Wed Jan 12, 2005 3:26 pm

So tell me AAplatnumflier.. Is there anything you are not an expert on or anyplace you have not visited/lived in? I am just curious because in reading your post history I can see you are the final authority on anything anywhere.

I hate to call someone out publicly on this board, but for being in the 13-15 age range there is some stuff that is not adding up. Please do not try to BS a BSer.

I have also suggested deletion of your post on the grounds it is factually wrong, we all know Texas is now Mexico, They actually had it once and it is being retaken. I don't even know why they want it to be perfectly honest.
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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Thu Jan 13, 2005 5:55 am

I know I might be a little bit late with the reply but I live in Long Beach and claimed Ontario previously. Hope that helps you guys.
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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Thu Jan 13, 2005 9:26 am

Howdy Matt,

I’m here, probably the only female on this board in So Cal and I’ve lived here my whole life. I rarely post but I sure enjoy reading everyone else’s! I was especially impressed with your story and photo of your Christmas tree. Way to go!

Anyways, I was born and raised in La Palma. I’ve also lived in Redondo Beach, Huntington Beach and now Placentia for the past 9 years. I’ve worked at ADP La Palma, and ADP Diamond Bar, during which time I made several trips up the 57 freeway to San Dimas where ADP’s Tax Center building is. I worked for ADP for 15 years (until 2001) and now work for my father-in-laws business in Norwalk.

Life here is good and I love it! I can’t imagine living anywhere else. I love taking weekend trips to San Diego, Santa Barbara, Palm Springs, anywhere my heart desires. There is so much do so and see here.

Yes, that rain was wild but I actually like it. Rented some good movies over the weekend and watched a great move at the theatre called “Sideways”. Everyone should see it, its hysterical. Anyways, about the rain I have to say I don’t remember us ever getting that much rain over a 5 day period. It felt like it was never going to end.

I have no idea about the 710 freeway. I typically stomp around OC and the Long Beach-Seal Beach area for fun. Have you been down to the Pike in Long Beach? I used to spend a lot of time on Pine Ave, dining at Alegria and Mums but man, the Pike has some great spots and good restaurants. Check out Gladstones, I was there on Dec. 3rd for a family birthday dinner and the food was outstanding (if you like seafood of course).

Yes, I do have a fastrack and I love it. I decided to get it when my parents retired from La Palma and they bought a house in Banning. It has been a lifesaver when going to visit the folks on the weekends, especially the holidays. I can make it from Placentia to Banning usually in 55 minutes tops.

I agree with you about the Hat. I go to the one off of Imperial and State College in Brea. By the way, have you seen the new Cheesecake Factory they put there on the corner next to the mall? Its really nice but hell, … the wait is like 2 hours! Ridiculous! We walked out on a Thursday night… it was insane. You couldn’t even walk to the damn hostess booth to put your name in. And the bar? Forget about it.

I once visited Ontario Mills about 4 years ago but it was way too huge. What the hell is Victoria Gardens? I’ve never heard of it.

Anything else you’d like to know???


 
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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Thu Jan 13, 2005 9:34 am

Gumah:

Maybe we can get together at that Hat (I've eaten there many times) and we can discuss a few things!  Big grin

Funny you lived in La Palma....so did I, between 2002-2004. I also worked there, in the Honeywell Bldg right at Valley View/Orangethorpe.

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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:01 am

Gumah,

Placentia, damn, I lived there from '72 to 91. Went to Wagner elementary, Tuffree Middle and El Dorado High Schools. Then used the town as home base as I went to Cal State Disneyla...I mean Fullerton. My folks still live there. What a pleasant place to live... Many good memories of that town.
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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:16 am

Hey Aero...

El Dorado High huh? I went to Kennedy in La Palma (graduated 86). Our schools played each other in sports and I believe they still do.

Placentia is a great town. North Orange County is a super place to live.

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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:49 am

Gumah,

Kennedy!

Very Bitter rivals of our in Cross-Country and Track back in the day... Chris Ree was your best distance runner then, good guy, a better runner than me - and I was so happy to beat him in our final race as Seniors ('84)!

North OC is a great place, no doubt. I'll be over that way this Sunday having Breakfast with the folks at Millies in Brea.

Did you see the snow on the Mtns.? Awesome!
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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:19 am

Random thoughts on SoCal:

Currently on a leave of absence from USC after completing 3 out of 4 years. Going back in August. While on the subject, how bout that Orange Bowl?  Smile

So I'm not a real Southern Californian. Too much of Boston in me.

So anyway, was at school from fall 2000 to this past May. Can't beat the weather. Can definitely beat the traffic and smog.

When I flew out to tour USC when I was applying, I stepped out of the terminal at LAX, and the first thing I saw was palm trees. In the airport. Yeah man.

Have relatives who live in Fontana. I hate that place with a passion. Can't get used to the smell. I've taken the Metrolink from Union Station out to Fontana a few times. It's a pretty nice ride.

It's better to fly into LA at night. During the day all you see is what a thick smog soup you are about to enter. You realize that you will be breathing that stuff, and it's depressing.

Hey, by the way, that wet stuff falling from the sky is not the end of the world. It's just rain. It happens. If it happens to hit the roads, then yes, the roads will get wet also. No reason to panic, or to tie up every news channel reporting on the latest raindrop sightings. More importantly, no reason to slow down 20 mph. That said, the latest landslides and whatnot are tragic.

In conclusion, I have very mixed feelings about the SoCal. On the one hand, it has parts that contain unsurpassed beauty. On the other hand, it has parts that contain unsurpassed ugliness. Oh well, same as anywhere else I guess. Gotta love the weather though.

~Vik
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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Thu Jan 13, 2005 12:47 pm

It's better to fly into LA at night. During the day all you see is what a thick smog soup you are about to enter. You realize that you will be breathing that stuff, and it's depressing.

The smog is usually bad for areas such as the San Fernando Valley, the San Gabriel and anywhere from La Brea Ave (where Hollywood starts to go down hill) all the way to Downtown LA and every community east of that-- Corona, Pomona, Azusa and all of those other eastern satellite communities , which are basically cookie-cutter communities of one another. I thought traffic was a nightmare on the 405 Freeway from LAX to Wilshire (heading north-roughly 5 miles) even on Friday at 5pm (either direction)... how all thsoe people who live out in Pomona and Corona deal with crap on the 60, the 10, 210 and the rest I'll never understand why anyone expose themselves to such torture!!!

Before those unfamiliar with the 'real' SoCal get a bad impression of the heart of SoCal.. I must say...

1) Smog is NEVER a problem in the western basin, Pacific Palisades, Santa Monica, Brentwood, Westwood (UCLA), Beverly Hills, Bel Air, Holmby Hills (and the western Hollywood Hills) West Hollywood, Hollywood (west section), West LA and the Beach Cities (Venice, Marina Del Rey, Playa Del Rey, Culver City, Westchester, LAX, Manhattan Beach, Hermosa Beach, Redondo Beach and the Palos Verdes Peninsula. These cities are the gems and center of TRUE SoCal life! Since the North American continent weather pattern moves from west to the east, there's a constant ocean breeze that leaves these cities relatively free of smog.. even on the worse of smog days! Air conditioning is rarely needed in the dead of summer in western most communities! The cities mentioned above in the 1st paragraph are pretty much land-locked by mountains ranges.. even Downtown LA sits on a hill (and contributes to blocking smog on both sides of it) therefore downtown and the hills north of it (leading the way to Burbank, Pasadena and Glendale) serve as a retaining wall blocking the smog and backing it up all the way west to places like La Brea Blvd and even almost-- almost to La Cienega Blvd (the Beverly Center)..but that's about it. Now if you're EAST of downtown (the Coronas, Pomonas and Riversides) or in any Valley community (north and Northeast)... you're are point-blank screwed (smog wise)!

In the 18 years I've been here.. never has smog been a problem (okay... I can count them on one hand--literally!)

Traffic around the 'gem cities' can be a headache anytime during the day-- for suckers-- that is, I mean those who depend on the 405 and the 10 Freeways! You can sail right past the 405 along Benedict Canyon (starts right next to the Beverly Hills Hotel) and be in the Valley in 20 minutes tops ANYTIME, ANY DAY even at 5pm on Friday (and either direction). Most people take Sepulveda Blvd which at times can match the parking lot that the 405 Freeway becomes. There are other canyon roads as well and only the well treversed locals know how to use them. East to West or vice versa... I've sailed from downtown LA to Beverly Center in 10-15 minutes at rush hour (5pm or so) while people baked in their cars on the 10 Freeway or on Olympic Blvd, Beverly Blvd and Wilshire! The key is you gotta know the area.. if you don't.. you might as well get lumped in with everyone else who don't take the time to figure out how to avoid the lines. Between LAX and the gem cities.. there's no place I can't get to within 30 to 40 minutes tops regardless of time of day it is. Today because of 5 homes along Woodrow Wilson Dr. (the Mt. Olympus/East Hollywood Hills area) are in danger of collapsing and slide down the hill and all traffic within a mile of the Chinese Theatre on Hollywood Blvd was complete standstill... I got in to pick someone on Hollywood Blvd and out in less than 10 minutes...side streets saved the day!

If you know how to work SoCal life... It'll work miracles for you.. you gotta want to put the effort in to it! And in no time at all, efforts not required to achieve anything around here! Hiking in the Santa Monica Mountains within 10-15 minutes, the Beach with 10-15 minutes, the Sand Dunes (that looks like something out of Star Wars) right along Pacific Coast Highway (right across from the beach) up near Pt. Dume just past Malibu in 30-40 minutes! All this and much more..while the idiots sit in their cars parked on a Freeway!

When you know it.. you love it!

***A 405 Freeway tip for you if you ever caught in it.. from the 10 Freeway to LAX (heading south) always take the slow lane (because everyone has had enough and are dying to get off and are exiting) you need only to take it 3 miles to the Howard Hughes Expwy or sooner the 91 West (Marina Del Rey Fwy) and you can make LAX in 20 minutes while everyone else stands still -- praying to the Exit Sign for La Tijera or Century Blvd. In the opposite direction... exit National Blvd (just south of the 10 Fwy) and go left to Sawtelle or right to Sepulveda or to Overland and make your way north..your friends will be impressed!


SoCal... why be anywhere else??? With the exception of periodic visits to the Caribbean/Europe and other exotic destinations... of course!


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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Thu Jan 13, 2005 1:10 pm

BN747,

Yeah, you guys on the west side are lucky. Living in and around USC, there have been a few days during the past four years when I couldn't even see downtown. And that's only 2 or 3 miles away. On the other side of it, there have been a few days when I could see snow-capped mountains from campus, which are something like 30 or 40 miles away. That's a truly beautiful sight. I have a couple friends who are living in Redondo now, and I can't wait to get out there and visit. Also, went running a couple times down the bike/walking path from El Porto down to Redondo and back up. Great place to get some exercise.

Although I prefer flying into LA at night, I have to say I have some cool photos of mountains from a flight in during the day. Oh, and how could I forget to mention my personal favorite bar, Tom Bergins, on Fairfax (can't remember the cross street, but it's north off the 10 towards Hollywood. Little slice of Irish pub-ness in the heart of LA. The Guinness there is spectacular.

And I gotta say, coming from the east coast, that the desert blows my mind. Love driving through it, love hiking through it. Went out to Joshua Tree once, and had a blast. Alright, I could go on for a lot longer, but I'm tired.

~Vik
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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Thu Jan 13, 2005 4:00 pm

Also, went running a couple times down the bike/walking path from El Porto down to Redondo and back up...

Excellent... and 'SC.. LA's Alumni-Power Base! Awesome school and smack dab in the middle of "the 'Hood!" Kudos you Vik, you are one tough cookie!

I roller-blade ONCE a year from a few blocks south of Gladstone's (Pacific Palisades--where Sunset Blvd ends (or begins) into Pacific Coast Highway) all the way down past LAX to the Strand where Redondo Beach/Torrance meets the Palos Verdes Peninsula... 3 hours--ONE WAY! Boy, was I seriously considering taking a taxi back to my car! But excellent weather and the beach can make you do strange things!

BN747

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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Thu Jan 13, 2005 4:48 pm

Born and raised in San Diego, I mean, Tijauna, I mean, San Diego....

Moved out, never going back.

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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Thu Jan 13, 2005 5:24 pm

been here since 1998, live in Westlake Village (on the border between Ventura County and Los Angeles County) but I go to USC. So I'm actually at USC for (most) of the school year.

I like socal in many ways, the only things that I don't like are related to the United States in general and not just california.

best thing about socal for me is the weather.
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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Fri Jan 14, 2005 1:35 am

how all thsoe people who live out in Pomona and Corona deal with crap on the 60, the 10, 210 and the rest I'll never understand why anyone expose themselves to such torture!!!

As I mentioned above, my first job in airport management was with the L.A. County Aviation Division: we operated El Monte, Brackett, Compton, Whiteman, and Fox Field airports. Our central office, where I worked out of, was next to the old County Engineer's building at the corner of Vermont and Sixth Streets (near Wilshire). At the time I worked there, I lived in Claremont (house I grew up in), then Glendale (my first apartment), finally Azusa. The Glendale commute was a piece of cake, but the Claremont and Azusa commutes were a joke. I'd switch back and forth from the 10 to the 210, then I found something that worked for me. After I'd moved to Azusa (my Glendale apartment was terrible, which was why I moved), I found that the quickest way to work for me was to take Huntington Drive as far in as I could before having to deal with the freeways. It cut quite a bit off my travel time, and the best thing was I was always moving (no parking lots).

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RE: The Official SoCal Thread

Fri Jan 14, 2005 1:47 am

I live less than a mile west of LGB. Lived here my whole life! 16 years. And I can't wait to get out of this state  Smile

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