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Bush; Iran Could Be Next.

Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:33 pm

1. There could already be a thread on this subject, and if there is, sorry.
2. Please forgive any spelling errors or weird expressions. I'm trying to translate this from a Norwegian text...  Insane  Smile

In an exclusive interview with NBC's David Gregory in the White house, President Bush made some clear warnings for the Islamic religious regime in Iran.

Bush says he will do anything to protect American interests, and when questioned directly if he would be willing to go to war like in Iraq, the president answered like this:

"Hopefully we won't have to. But if it is necessary in order to protect America, and all else fails, and we have to use force to protect our citizens, then I will."

Earlier this week The New Yorker revealed that American commanding soldiers were already inside Iran on recognition missions to find potential military targets. The Pentagon have not admitted to this and claim the New Yorker are making it up. Still, neither the Pentagon or the white house wish to confirm that such an operation has not taken place in Iran.

Even though the white house have tried to calm the rumors of a possible invasion of Iran, George Bush answered the following when asked if he believes a military operation could be a reality:

"I hope we can solve this diplomatically, but I won't leave out any possibilities."

The US claim Iran have the technology to develop nuclear weapons. Iran have denied this several times, claiming their nuclear facilities are for power production only.

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This seems terribly familiar. Anyone else get that feeling of Deja vu?

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RE: Bush; Iran Could Be Next.

Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:40 pm

He is not going to do it.
Where should he get the money to start a new war from? They hardly don't have any money fro the Iraq war.
 
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RE: Bush; Iran Could Be Next.

Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:42 pm

Just borrow against the future. No problem  Smile
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RE: Bush; Iran Could Be Next.

Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:46 pm

For some reason I feel that he would have a hard time convincing the American People about this. As of now, Iraq War approval has sunk to a new low of 39%.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-iraqpoll19jan19,0,7592168.story?coll=la-home-headlines
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RE: Bush; Iran Could Be Next.

Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:46 pm

If they move into Iran, the number of middle eastern countries which havent been invaded by USA will soon not make up the majority...
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RE: Bush; Iran Could Be Next.

Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:48 pm

Won't happen since they neither have the money nor the personnel and materiel required.

But I wonder if this talk is helpful concerning the current negotiations.
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RE: Bush; Iran Could Be Next.

Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:35 pm

Maybe Mr Bush is a reincarnation of Ceasar or something?  Smile
 
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RE: Bush; Iran Could Be Next.

Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:27 pm


Yes, there is already quite a long thread on this subject . . . have a look.

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/non_aviation/read.main/718830/
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RE: Bush; Iran Could Be Next.

Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:01 pm

Maybe Mr Bush is a reincarnation of Ceasar or something?

Only a matter of time before one of his own kills him with a stab him in the back then... *Ahem*

ANCflyer, right sorry then, but that thread didn't come up among the double suggestions when I posted it. Sh*t happens...  Smile

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RE: Bush; Iran Could Be Next.

Thu Jan 20, 2005 12:13 am

Iran wont be as easy as Iraq.
Might be a long war.If it occurs.
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RE: Bush; Iran Could Be Next.

Thu Jan 20, 2005 3:45 am

"Bush; Iran could be next"

Here we go again...  Insane
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Thu Jan 20, 2005 4:20 am

dont get too greedy...bc every empire falls....
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RE: Bush; Iran Could Be Next.

Thu Jan 20, 2005 5:24 am

I think we cried wolf too early, that if Iran is the real problem; do you think the American public will let that fly: Yes.

I remember the first days of action in Iraq, the tune from the Admin changed abruptly from WMD's to saving the Iraqi people -- Bush appealed to our humanitarian side. If he does it again, I'am sure we'll go to Iran whether for the Iranian people us their neighbors or whomever else. All humans get dumb if you appeal to 'pathos' as opposed to 'logos'.

Make it a human issue; that IS why we fight to defend ourselves, is it not?

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RE: Bush; Iran Could Be Next.

Thu Jan 20, 2005 6:46 am

Iraq War approval has sunk to a new low of 39%

And I presume that is the population of the south, hardcore bush supporters!

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RE: Bush; Iran Could Be Next.

Thu Jan 20, 2005 6:52 am

What do his approval ratings matter when he is a second term president? That is the problem with term limits. But OMG... I hope not again, to occupy three countries, but hey that would give us a continuous string of countries United States of Arabia.
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RE: Bush; Iran Could Be Next.

Thu Jan 20, 2005 6:56 am

...in order to protect America... ...Iran have the technology to develop nuclear weapons...

 Yeah sure Yeah, sure, like in Iraq... What a cheater!! How could he be elected again?? Fortunately, this "oiloholic" will not be able invade more countries because ran out of $  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: Bush; Iran Could Be Next.

Thu Jan 20, 2005 7:02 pm

BCNGRO, yeah but he could borrow some money for the invasion and then pay it back after he controls all three countries and their oil production... Sounds like a plan.  Smile

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RE: Bush; Iran Could Be Next.

Fri Jan 21, 2005 10:37 am

Guys this was just a case of irresponsible reporting by the press and legitimizing left wing myths.

And it is irresponsible. I could see somebody like the Iranians going off half cocked and starting something, that the US had no intention of starting.
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Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:32 am

Guys this was just a case of irresponsible reporting by the press and legitimizing left wing myths.

And how the hell would you know that, L-188? Because you don't have the mental capacity to even question this adminstration about anything? Becuase you're itching for more combat for our troops?

Seems to me it's looking at Bush's woeful record of "diplomacy" and coming to some conclusions that are probably pretty accurate.

You and your freaking left-wing paranoia.
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RE: Bush; Iran Could Be Next.

Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:32 am

Maybe it will be one of those destroy key targets by stealth bomber missions...
Then if they are making nuclear weapons that'll put them behind for a while. If they decide to build up their nuclear stockpile again we will just level their munitions buildings again... if that fails, we just put more heavy embargos upon them and they will live in the stone age.

The reason why Iraq is going so badly is because of all the media scrutiny. Before an American soldier touches a hair on an Iraqi's head everybody screams "Geneva Convention". And the "Evil" US army is judged again by a world civilian viewing public that has never experienced a war, let alone heard a gunshot firsthand.

We cannot abide by ideals when it comes to war. In modern warfare civilians die, but ideally they are not supposed to. In modern warfare soldiers take matters into their own hands, but ideally there's supposed to be an accountable chain of command. The list goes on and on.

People must face that fact that friend or foe our soldiers cannot tell the difference. Can you imagine a place where anyone around you can pull a gun on you or blow you up and you have no clue who it is? A guy can be telling Coalition soldiers where some insurgents are located just to intentionally lead them into an ambush.

If orders are shoot to kill and take no prisoners, rabble-rousers will think twice about stirring up trouble and our soldiers will be safer. After all it's just a few little chicken sh*ts that trickle in from elsewhere that hold a vast majority of law abiding Iraqis hostage.

Honestly speaking when people go forth and criticize soldiers belligerently it makes me sick. The freedoms that many of us exercise as a birthright floats upon an ocean of blood. Please consider the sacrifices that they have made so that we can sit in front of our computers and argue the validity of war.
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RE: Bush; Iran Could Be Next.

Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:50 am

Flybyguy,

Please allow me to cheer at the brilliance of your arguments.
This is without doubt the dawn of a brilliant career as an A.net political and military analyst.

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RE: Bush; Iran Could Be Next.

Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:54 am

The reason why Iraq is going so badly is because of all the media scrutiny.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!  Laugh out loud

Are you REALLY serious? That the JOB of the media-to scrutinize!

The reason Iraq is going so bad has not a thing to do with a media simply reporting the daily bombings. It has to do with a President and his administration who thought they would be out in June of '03, had not freaking clue what they were getting into, and who had even less of a clue as to how to get out.

Talk about letting the person who started this insanity off easy, you just gave Bush a free lifetime pass, seems to me.

What a typically idiotic thing to say, when Bush is the one to blame, not the media.

But thanks for the laugh.
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RE: Bush; Iran Could Be Next.

Fri Jan 21, 2005 12:06 pm

Gosh, why can't we just have an international body that all countries could belong to, and then they all could sit around and talk--you know, share feelings--and sort things out. Kinda like on Star Trek!

Oh sorry, I forgot we had the UN. That has been really useful.

Hey, give the downtrodden hope and maybe they'll rise up in these hell holes and realize that they can control their own destiny. With the help of the US, and be free.
 
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RE: Bush; Iran Could Be Next.

Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:07 pm

In an interview on an Iranian radio station the Iranian President Mohammad Khatami dismissed the prospect of a US attack over Iran's refusal to give up its nuclear program. He was quoted as saying"We think America is not in a position to take a lunatic action of attacking Iran"

Those sound like fighting words, maybe we'll be hearing GWB say 'Bring 'em on' again.
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RE: Bush; Iran Could Be Next.

Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:12 pm

The President has since apologized for those words that you quoted. It was a matter of dignity, so I don't expect you to understand that.
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RE: Bush; Iran Could Be Next.

Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:31 pm

'Those sound like fighting words, maybe we'll be hearing GWB say 'Bring 'em on' again.'

'The President has since apologized for those words that you quoted. It was a matter of dignity, so I don't expect you to understand that.'

I suppose I should expect petty and childish responses like this from the more delicate and sensitive (but apparently dignified  Nuts) members of this forum.
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RE: Bush; Iran Could Be Next.

Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:34 pm

I think your posts will show who the true petty person is, Yuk. That case needs to be made by nobody but yourself.

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RE: Bush; Iran Could Be Next.

Sat Jan 22, 2005 5:26 am

and maybe they'll rise up in these hell holes and realize that they can control their own destiny

They? They who? As far as I'm concerned, the US should take care of our own inner-city 'hell holes' first. And in case you can't remember, no one was running around talking about 'liberating' people 2 years ago when it started. That came about after the administration, and those supporting it, failed to find the WMDs. So they found a new banner ('liberation') for their parade.

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RE: Bush; Iran Could Be Next.

Sat Jan 22, 2005 5:51 am

Its all part of spreading freedom.

Here's to attacking and spreading freedom in places like:

Saudi Arabia
Pakistan
China
North Korea

I'm sure that the Tibetans will be pleased when we firebomb Shanghai and Beijing in order to free Lhasa.
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RE: Bush; Iran Could Be Next.

Sat Jan 22, 2005 6:46 am

Wow, some analyst on Fox News hit it right on the head. Somebody asked him (immediately after the speech): What will the Democrats counter this speech with?

His response: well, see reply #28
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RE: Bush; Iran Could Be Next.

Sat Jan 22, 2005 6:55 am

Well, will he or won't he try and spread "freedom" to those hapless Saudis and Pakistanis? And we have a billion Chinese who live under a pretty repressive regime. What about Zimbabweans? Somalis? Assorted nasty countries in West and Central Africa?

Talk is cheap, especially when the audience is composed of geographically and factually challenged dullards.

Talk is especially cheap on Fox News.
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Sat Jan 22, 2005 7:47 am

Falcon84,

That is one of the key issues of modern times, the heavy media scrutiny and the availability of minute information on everything under the sun. When i speak of information in minute detail, I don't mean research on how a turbofan engine works, but minute detail about the personal lives of people.

With that being said we can no longer hope to have legends like George Washington, Lincoln, FDR, or MLK. Instead everyone and anyone who comes into public sight we will know what they had for breakfast and whether they recently had intercourse with their spouse etc. I think certain information is best left private (the media of the past seemed to respect that) to allow the public to see past human frailties an more toward the strengths. That is how people in the past saw their leaders and why the above mentioned became legendary.

One of the reasons the war is going badly IS because the military has it's options limited by intense media scrutiny. If we allowed the military to do its job without laypeople interfering then we would have better control of the Iraqi situation. Certainly we should have had more troops, but where would they come from? Massive recruiting efforts? We all know who's going to get shafted again if that happens. The poor urban youth. While upperclass kids go off to Harvard and say how war is so bad when they are not the ones being shot at or blown up.

We must make do with what we have, should-haves don't solve the current situation.
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RE: Bush; Iran Could Be Next.

Sat Jan 22, 2005 8:03 am

The silver lining about Iran is the people there actually like the US.
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RE: Bush; Iran Could Be Next.

Sat Jan 22, 2005 8:22 am

The silver lining about Iran is the people there actually like the US.

There is a sizeable minority - or even a majority - that does.
But attacking Iran will make Iranians gather around the Mullah-led government. Iranians may not like the Mullahs, but they're also a very proud people who wouldn't care much for the US blowing up their nuclear ambitions.
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