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Gonna Be In Europe For Three Months...

Sat Feb 05, 2005 3:22 pm

... what should I make sure I don't miss?

Here's the deal: Between the beginning of September and end of November, my husband and I will be living in Florence, Italy. After that, we'll have another 2-3 weeks to travel. He'll be teaching Monday-Thursday each week, with a break of about ten days sometime in early October. I'll be doing some academic research, which will give me a LOT of flexibility unless I end up working on one of the projects I've pitched to a couple of clients. Sooo.....

What should I do? This will be my first time on the European mainland; the closest I've been so far was the UK and Ireland. Doing some spotting is a priority, and I'm already lobbying for a trip to AMS. Paris, Barcelona, and Athens have also been batted about as possibilities--he's not into aviation, but he's a sympathetic shutterbug nonetheless. Suggestions? I'd be VERY interested in attending a meet if one might get scheduled.

BTW, I'm also not opposed to taking mid-week trips by myself and hosteling if it comes to that. I don't know when I'll get this opportunity again, so I want to make the most of it!

Thanks in advance,
Leanne
 
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Sat Feb 05, 2005 4:24 pm

One thing is for sure....

You gotta visit one of the Scandianavian countries before you go back home. It's beautiful here I can tell you.
And It's easy to get here as well and there are several LCC's that flies to 3 citys in Denmark. Ryanair flies to Esbjerg and Aarhus while Easyjet flies to CPH.
 
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Sat Feb 05, 2005 6:01 pm

Visit every place possible! I love Prague! Copenhagen is awesome! Barcelona was amazing! Depends on your tastes. I wish I had a few months in Europe. I have heard that the Amalfi Coast in Italy is stunning. The Millau Viaduc in France is an enormous & historic engineering feat. Get us "trip report", after your European visit.

Bon Voyage

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Sat Feb 05, 2005 6:13 pm

I recommend you travel by train - regardless of what you'll see. . . .

It's economical. Get a Eurailpass. It's NOT Amtrak. It's on time and clean.

When I lived there I went everywhere on weekends . . . by train. I could leave Wiesbaden (Germany - just outside FRA) and be in Paris for sun-up (or Copenhagen, or Munich, or Madrid, or Vienna . . . you get the idea). Since you'll be in Italy, the overnight travel to another destination might take a night and a short morning.

Most of these major European cities have train stations in the airports. Just hop off there and take your photos.

Don't miss seeing a castle - a real castle. For the Europeans, it's no big deal, they live there - kinda like moose and bears for us Alaskans. If there is time a river cruise in Germany up the Rhine. Can't beat that. There are day cruises. Copenhagen is a beautiful city. Madrid is awesome. In Barcelona, there is this Cathedral - been under construction for 200 years. In Portugal, the home of Port wine. In Germany, wine country. Make sure to see Paris.

What can I tell you - if you've the time see everything you can see. Get some guides from "Lonely Planet" where they'll list hostels and cheaper places to stay . . . .you could always book your travel so you're on a train at night - asleep - and visting during the day . . .

Always look up a local Mom and Pop place to sleep or eat. . . 100% better than the big hotels and chain eateries. In Germany ask "haben sie ein zwie-zimmer frie?" . . . "got a double room free".

Enjoy the food. The food is the best . . . well, okay, the scenery is the best, well, okay, the scenery is the best . . .as you can see I am confused. . . .

Europe is a fantastic place. Get all you can.
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Sat Feb 05, 2005 6:17 pm

Don�t forget to bring your saxophone.... you might end up jamming with the local jazz community....

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Sat Feb 05, 2005 6:21 pm

One place for you to go that is awesome, is Montecatini.(spelling?) Its about 30-45 mins west of Florence, past the airport.  Wink/being sarcastic Florence is a beautiful city, I envy you very much, being that you get to live there for 3 months. I was only there for 3 days, but I fell in love with the place.
 
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Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:46 pm

Hi
Let's say that there are a lot of place that are worth a visit...
What I would visit if I were in you is:
more or less all Toscana the region of Firenze there are many important places ( Siena, Pisa, Versilia ....) the country side is fantastic!! These place are all just max 1 hour car drive from Firenze

I would also obviously go to Roma, Pompei, Napoli, and Costiera Amalfitana. After that another place that can't be miss in Italy is Venezia that really is a must!!

Sure is that if you need more information about Italy....just have to ask!!


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Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:54 pm

I would suggest visiting Monaco, beautiful place! Also if you want some peace and quiet, track up towards the area of Matterhorn in CH.

If you have the op to fly, i would recommend Athens, Istanbul, and you might think im crazy, but Moscow is beautiful that time of year, and very culturally different. I say go far as you can, because otherwise, the other places are within a weekend bus/train rides reach.

The Czech republic is beautiful!
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Sat Feb 05, 2005 8:55 pm

My hot shots for 2-5 days visits:

Paris and the French Riviera (combined by high speed train) with return via
San Remo and Milan (one day here),
Istanbul (A MUST !) and Athens (easily combined by air),
Prague and/or Budapest and/or Warsaw/Krakow
Switzerland (anywhere in the southern half)
Dubrovnik and the Dalmatian coast
Amsterdam, Antwerp and Brussels (by train)
Barcelona, Grenada and Sevilla
Lisbon, Porto and the NE countryside
The valley of the Rhine (in Germany)
Vienna and Salzburg
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RE: Gonna Be In Europe For Three Months...

Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:31 pm

Check out www.ryanair.com lot of cheap flights from nearby Pisa,
Carcassonne got castle and are a Ryanair destination, also close to Toulose
home of Airbus...
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Sun Feb 06, 2005 8:24 am

I would go to Napoli,Pompei & the Amalfi Coast/Capri too, You should see as much of Italy as you can, the others you will always do as a circuit more easily.
I was backpacking by train for around a month consecutively. Covered Bruge/Paris/Perpignon/Montpellier/Nice/Monaco/Roma/Napoli/Sorrento/Firenze/Bologna/Modena/Maranello/Venezia/thru Austria to Munchen/Nuernburg/Praha/Cologne. by the Eurail-Interail pass, although to get one you must be in an EU country for a minimum of 6 months.
I would recommend places like Ljubjiana and Budapest and some of the 'off the circuit' type places that you may not see again. I didn't go due to lack of time & funds, but those backpackers I met/travelled with that had said they were awesome. i wasn't that impressed by Praha/Prague to be honest. It has some beautiful architecture and great history, but it was kinda seedy and rundown in many places. Still worth a short stop, but only as part of a circuit. I wouldn't have done a detour from Germany as I did if I'd realised that.
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Sun Feb 06, 2005 12:51 pm

I love Austria/Switzerland and especially the region of Germany/Austria between Salzburg and Munich; Scandinavian countries; Scotland; and there are I'm sure many other places in that great continent.
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RE: Gonna Be In Europe For Three Months...

Sun Feb 06, 2005 3:50 pm

Thanks for all the tips--I'm going to print this thread. One more question, though--is it generally pretty safe for a woman to travel alone (by train, probably) in this part of the world? Is there anything to be concerned about, weather-wise, this time of year? I'll admit I'm kind of a wimp, but I did manage to do a lot of hiking last March in Ireland without freezing my poor Californian butt off.

Thanks again,
Leanne
 
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Sun Feb 06, 2005 3:53 pm

Leanne, don't miss out on Eastern Europe! Czechia, Slovakia, Hungary and Slovenia are just amazing.
 
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Sun Feb 06, 2005 4:16 pm

Leanne,

If you are considering going to Germany, you might want to consider LAke Constance. It's a lovely area of Germany, which I had the privlelege of visiting this past summer. The town of Constance is undescribable. I was overwhelmed with the great attitude and cleanliness of the town. Another advantage of the Lake Constance area is that it borders on German, Switzerland, and Austria, and there is a ferry which takes you to all three nations on the lake, it's called the DreiLaenderfahrt in German, in English it is the Three Country Trip.

The town of Schaffhausen is also in the area. All of its small shops make it such a unique little town that just blew my mind. There is absolutely nothing that can compare to it in America. Plus the chocolate is amazing. I brought back pounds of the stuff for my family and friends.

I would give you some links, but its 2AM and im wiped out from baseball, but I'm sure a google search would provide you with lots of great information.

Hope this helps,

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RE: Gonna Be In Europe For Three Months...

Sun Feb 06, 2005 6:35 pm

Leanne, I 'travelled' ( Wink/being sarcastic) with several backpacker chicks that were on their own.
It really is quite safe, provided you keep your wits and don't get yourself into too many situations that would endanger you (though you can't avoid when travelling). On trains do not sleep in the Overnight bunk cubicles alone or you may be gassed & your possessions stolen while you are unconscious- that happened to one girl I talked to. In general the train is very safe, and you shouldn't be bothered, even by forward Italian men. In Firenze and other tourist hot spots just avoid the 'Gypsies'. They are complete frauds and are making a bundle off it. Their most popular line is "Hello, do you speak English?" while holding up a sign in English with 'their' child at home in Bosnia/Romania/Albania/Enterwhicheverplaceyouwant and pleading for you to hand over cash. The easiest thing is to say Parlo Italiano or something in the local language - they will go away immediately - signalling their guilt (they only try tourists), otherwise if you reply in English they will nag/pester/intimidate you. I speak from experience - After trying to be firm but fair for about 10minutes, she kept pestering and following me around Duomo, In the end I turned and towered over this lady, said "F*ck off" and walked off....She didn't follow. Mail me if you like.
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RE: Gonna Be In Europe For Three Months...

Sun Feb 06, 2005 7:47 pm

Leanne,
Europe is a safe country, but you sure have to be careful in some situations. If you go to Napoli don't go alone go with others better if with a regular tour, stay with them don't try to go by your self in the less safe areas of the city people of the hotels will easily inform you on where you can go and where it's better not to...

Weather wise you shouldn't have any problems, actually it could also be sunny and hot in the south of Italy

If you'd like further information don't hesitate fell free to mail me.

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RE: Gonna Be In Europe For Three Months...

Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:29 am

IS your husband teaching at the Florida State University in Florence?

You should certainly not miss Berlin, Munich, Bremen. If you have an opportunity to goto Spain I would recommend San Sebastian and Barcelona. Also, you might want to goto Morrocco just to say you did since it is so close.
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 4:39 am

Simo82, I was in Napoli late last year for a week independently and didn't have any problems( and I look like a foreign tourist), but I understand there have been a few mafiosi vendettas against other gangs recently. Is it really that bad these days? It was one of my favourite areas in Italy.
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:31 pm

Come over to DUB ! There's a nicey area for aircraft spotting and a a.net meet is scheduled  Big thumbs up

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RE: Gonna Be In Europe For Three Months...

Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:40 pm

You know, last time I was in DUB I couldn't find a spotters' area. Then again, I was also looking for the rental car joint at the same time, so I might have missed it. Where should I look next time I'm out?
 
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:43 pm

You should get the 16/16A bus and stop right near the runway 28 threshold, then it's a small walk to the parking lot beside runway 28/10.
Come to the DUB meet  Smile/happy/getting dizzy !

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Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:43 pm

It is alongside Runway 28. Not very difficult to find.

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RE: Gonna Be In Europe For Three Months...

Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:47 pm

It is alongside Runway 28. Not very difficult to find.

That day, it seemed like *everything* was hard to find, beginning with the airport turnoff. The B&B guy insisted that his map would show us the best route--it damn near made us miss our flight home.

Nice guy, but terrible map-maker.
 
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:48 pm

Come back to DUB and I'll galdly play chauffeur  Smile

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RE: Gonna Be In Europe For Three Months...

Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:05 pm

Aerorobnz >I was in Napoli late last year for a week independently and didn't have any problems( and I look like a foreign tourist), but I understand there have been a few mafiosi vendettas against other gangs recently. Is it really that bad these days? It was one of my favourite areas in Italy<

unfortunatly the answer is YES and no matter if you look like a tourist or look like an Italian some areas are off limits for everybody. My point is that you must be very careful and don't go where you shouldn't.Never get out of the touristic area.

Indeed it's one of the best areas in Italy.

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