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Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:39 pm

Have you ever

Y - slept on the ground
Y - cleaned a fish
N - climbed a mountain
N - thrown a punch
Y - ridden a horse
Y - shot a rifle
N - sailed a boat
Y - changed a wheel
Y - built a fire
Y - read the Bible.

Let's see. I've never climbed a mountain that required climbing gear (in Alabama we only have the very toes of the Appalachian Mountains), or sailed a boat (I'm very proficient with a canoe, however), or thrown a punch in anger, but I've done the rest. How about you?

Apparently the military is finding out that there are many young men who have excellent spatial awareness from playing video games, but haven't done much of the above.
 
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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:46 pm

I'm a pure city boy... I've ridden horses plenty of times, but that's about it.

Oh yeah, I've changed a tyre - once. Never again. That's what the garage is for.

And what does reading the Bible have to do with being fit for military service? Unless that's an indication of how much torture you can endure?  Big grin (kidding!)
 
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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:53 pm

Also a city kid, but...

Y - slept on the ground
N - cleaned a fish
N - climbed a mountain
Y - thrown a punch
N - ridden a horse
Y - shot a rifle
N - sailed a boat
Y - changed a wheel
Y - built a fire
Y - read the Bible.


I'm also wondering what reading the Bible has to do with military service. It could be argued that if one reads and adheres to certain portions of the New Testament, they would be against warfare and combat, but then again, that leads this post down a road that I don't want to cross.


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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:59 pm

Y - slept on the ground
N - cleaned a fish
Y - climbed a mountain
Y - thrown a punch
N - ridden a horse (I dont think ponies when I was like 3 count)
Y - shot a rifle
Y - sailed a boat
N - changed a wheel
N - built a fire
N - read the Bible. (If this was an actual requirement, the military can do fine without me, thanks)

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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:05 pm

Uh-oh

Y - slept on the ground
N - cleaned a fish
Y - climbed a mountain
Y - thrown a punch
Y - ridden a horse
Y - shot a rifle
Y - sailed a boat
Y - changed a wheel
Y - built a fire
Y - read the Bible (though I don't know if academic reading counts).

Thank God I can't be drafted.  Smile

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Edit: to fix boneheaded copy/paste error

[Edited 2005-02-08 08:11:20]
 
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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:06 pm

"Y - ridden a horse (I dont think ponies when I was like 3 count)"

Great use of copy/paste  Big grin

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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:08 pm

MD-90, where did you get this list from?
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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:10 pm

Oops.

Now that I feel like a big fat dope I'd better go edit that.
 
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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:26 pm

The list was compiled by Lt. Col Jeff Cooper USMC ret, who knows more about the art of shooting than just about anybody. You're right that reading the Bible isn't a requirement, but he put it in there. This is not a list from the US Army or anything. I suppose I should've clarified that.

Jasepl, what's so bad about changing a tire? I had to do it on our Grand Caravan for my mother a few months ago (not that she couldn't do it, but it's a man's job--she changes her own oil when I'm at school, but not when I'm at home, for example), and it was pretty easy. But did the van ever look ugly with that spare on it (at least it was full-sized).

[Edited 2005-02-08 08:28:47]
 
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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:28 pm

Y - slept on the ground
N - cleaned a fish
N - climbed a mountain
Y - thrown a punch
Y - ridden a horse
N - shot a rifle
Y - sailed a boat
N - changed a wheel
Y - built a fire
Y - read the Bible. <- Not more than I had to in order to get through Confirmation  Laugh out loud

.. and the army still rejected me - in fact, they asked me stay home  Laugh out loud
 
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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:50 pm

Y - slept on the ground
N - cleaned a fish
Y - climbed a mountain
Y - thrown a punch
Y - ridden a horse
Y - shot a rifle
Y - sailed a boat
Y - changed a wheel
Y - built a fire
Y - read the Bible.

Guess theres one thing I got to learn to do.Although I prefer Chicken to Fish  Smile
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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:55 pm

So, shall we look at this from high school before I signed up.

Y - slept on the ground -Camping on occasion.
Y - cleaned a fish-What I didn't shoot I had to hook.
Y - climbed a mountain -I am cheating, the local mountain was 50 ft short of the 1000 foot threshold to be called a mountain
N - thrown a punch -No I was a good boy
N - ridden a horse -Not a lot of horses on the open tundra
Y - shot a rifle -Hell I grew up on what I shot
y - sailed a boat -No dad like running the outboard himself, I got stuck rowing
Y - changed a wheel -Do Bicycle tires count?
Y - built a fire -Does using a road flare count?
Y - read the Bible.-New Test.
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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:05 pm

Y - slept on the ground
Y - cleaned a fish (does a squid count Big grin )
Y - climbed a mountain (too many actually, rhaa.)
Y - thrown a punch
Y - ridden a horse
Y - shot a rifle
Y - sailed a boat
Y - changed a wheel
Y - built a fire
Y - read the Bible (rhaaa, unfortunately I did that)


But my military service was not in the military ! Bwahahaha !
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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:09 pm

N - slept on the ground
Y - cleaned a fish (I think so, once a long time ago)
Y - climbed a mountain
Y - thrown a punch
N - ridden a horse
Y - shot a rifle (AG-3, MP5, Glock, MG-3. So fun)  Big thumbs up
Y - sailed a boat
Y - changed a wheel
Y - built a fire
Y - read the Bible. (Although not every page. Would like to some day though.)  Smile

Military was great. Big grin

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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:13 pm

Have you ever

Y - slept on the ground
N - cleaned a fish
Y - climbed a mountain
Y - thrown a punch (somehow, hey, Alex)
N - ridden a horse
Y - shot a rifle
N - sailed a boat
Y - changed a wheel
Y - built a fire
Y - read the Bible.

But I never was in the military either.

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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:10 pm

You know Md-90 that when you quote guys like Jeff Cooper I feel I might just understand you.

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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:14 pm

Y - slept on the ground
Y - cleaned a fish
Y - climbed a mountain
Y - thrown a punch
N - ridden a horse
Y - shot a rifle
Y - sailed a boat
Y - changed a wheel
Y - built a fire
N - read the Bible.

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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:23 pm

Slept on the Ground - Yes, several times
Cleaned A Fish - No, that's Icky!, but I've caught fish
Climbed A Mountain - Yes, several times, I'm from the friggin' rockies
Thrown A Punch - Depends, does Taekwondo Count (Black Belt)
Ridden A Horse - Yes, several times
Shot A Rifle - Yes, as well as many other guns, hey I'm from Utah
Sailed a Boat - Yes, water person, I also scuba dive
Changed a Wheel - Yes, several times thanks to SLC's potholes
Built a Fire - No, but I've seen it done
Read the Bible - I've thumbed through it, not religious

No military for me though, I'm in no shape whatsoever
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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:29 pm

Y - slept on the ground
Y - cleaned a fish
Y - climbed a mountain
Y - thrown a punch
Y - ridden a horse
Y - shot a rifle
Y - sailed a boat
Y - changed a wheel
Y - built a fire
N - read the Bible.

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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:33 pm

Y - slept on the ground
N - cleaned a fish (I´m allergic to fish, hence I don´t eat fish)
Y - climbed a mountain
Y- thrown a punch
Y - ridden a horse (not very well, I can handle a trott, but during canter I hang on it like a sack of sh*t)
Y - shot a rifle
Y - sailed a boat
Y - changed a wheel
Y - built a fire
N - read the Bible (I´m an atheist and I don´t see what this question has to do with fitness for the military)

As West Berliner never been in the military though.
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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Tue Feb 08, 2005 9:07 pm

Y to all, but only the last one was imposed upon me.

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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:24 pm

Y - slept on the ground
N - cleaned a fish
Y - climbed a mountain
Y - thrown a punch
N - ridden a horse
Y!!!!! - shot a rifle
N - sailed a boat
Y - changed a wheel
Y - built a fire
Y - read the Bible.

I'm a city boy to.

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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Tue Feb 08, 2005 11:30 pm

Have you ever

N - slept on the ground - never got into the camping thing
Y - cleaned a fish - disgusting, never again!
Y - climbed a mountain - no, if you mean technical sort of climbing
Y - thrown a punch
Y - ridden a horse
Y - shot a rifle - when I was a little kid in day camp
N - sailed a boat
Y - changed a wheel
Y - built a fire
Y - read the Bible - not the whole thing, just bits and pieces
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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Tue Feb 08, 2005 11:45 pm

While I respect the hell out of Col. Cooper, I have to say this...one does not have be proficient in any of the above areas prior to joining to be successful in the Army, they may help some, but the Army will teach the willing everything they need to adapt to and grow with the Army. Having them prior to military service can be a good thing, but it can also lead people to ignore that which they are taught, which is not USUALLY a good thing in the military. Ask any Drill Sergeant what they would rather have, a guy who already knows everything, or some guy that knows little but is eager and willing to learn.

While I was in the Army I never had to ride a horse, sail a boat or read the Bible (although we were encouraged to do all three in our spare time, and provided facilities for these activities) but the rest was taught to me by competent instructors. If they needed us to do the rest they would've had a manual and block of instruction.

BTW....If most of these folks knew who Jeff Cooper was and what he does they would not bother responding to this post, or would've responded differently...he is an interesting person.

http://www.dvc.org.uk/~johnny/jeff/aboutjff.html
http://home.sprynet.com/~frfrog/cooper.htm

I worry when I like the same person that MD-90 does, but I've met Uncle Jeff and believe in what he preaches about the practicalities and realities of effective firearms use. I have shot IPSC competitions and used what he teaches to do well. (Still won't buy a race gun.)

The 4 Rules should be required learning for anyone who may ever come into contact with an actual firearm.

I'm still not clear if he invented the Weaver Stance, but he perfected its use and how to train it.

He is correct about most things related to shooting. The Colt .45 is the finest CQB pistol ever made, and the Scout is the best rifle for any situation. SOme of the finest firearms manufacturers in the world have built to his specs. Springfield, Steyr, and others.

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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Wed Feb 09, 2005 12:14 am

Many officers with wom I work are Gunsight Graduates. I am not, I'm jealous. We preach the 4 rules of gun safety all the time. I don't use the Weaver, it's not comfortable for me.

Dl021: Ask any Drill Sergeant what they would rather have, a guy who already knows everything, or some guy that knows little but is eager and willing to learn

I was a drill for 5 years, 3 with fresh meatheads and 2 at the Drill Sergeant Academy. Give me a lean, untrained idiot right off the street any day. Re-teaching NCOs in the basic skills is much harder than one would think.
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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Wed Feb 09, 2005 12:28 am

I use a modified Weaver stance when possible. The stance works well for me, but shooting effectively depends on comfort as much as efficient mechanics and practice.
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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Wed Feb 09, 2005 12:44 am

I've tried the weaver, most cop friends swear by it, I find it uncomfortable. Although I understand the mechanics and the (I guess) advantage to using it, weight balance, push, pull, etc., I find the modified weaver works best for me - on a standing range anyway. On a moving range, no one ever "stops" moving completely to take up a weaver, modified weaver or any other "text book" stance.

Now, interestingly, I use the weaver when employing the shotgun. And the Rifle. Never the pistol.

Edit, Typo, still early here.



[Edited 2005-02-08 16:45:27]
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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:20 am

Have you ever

Y - slept on the ground (does passing out count?) (does a sleeping bag count?)
Y - cleaned a fish (and gutted and parted out a deer too)
Y - climbed a mountain (many in the 10-11000' range, but hikes not climbs)
Y - thrown a punch (caught a couple too and I know which I prefer)
Y - ridden a horse (the last horse I threw a leg over is 30 years dead. Even my BSA was better than horses.)
Y - shot a rifle (and a pistol, a crossbow, machinegun, 2.75" rockets)
Y - sailed a boat (do powerboats and sailboards count?)
Y - changed a wheel (inside dual on a loaded cattle trailer count)
Y - built a fire (by rubbing two girl scouts together?)
Y - read the Bible (well, many parts of it, Koran too. Why do you ask?)

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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:23 am

All except read the bible, stupid to add that...
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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:42 am

I don't know that I agree, Alessandro. While it may not seem to have anything to do with fitness for military service (not sure cleaning a fish does either) it indicates something about character.

As an agnostic (reformed) I don't think I was trying to read the Bible to find out what God wanted me to do, but rather, as part of my intellectual and spiritual development when I was a teenager.

I knew just enough about world history to know that Christian nations had tremendous impact on the western hemisphere (where I lived) and felt that I should know something about it. If someone reads the whole thing it has something to say about their discipline too. I know nothing about the person they reference as having compiled that list, so I don't know why he included it.

Frankly I don't have much respect for the widespread disdain for Christianity that prevails on here, when I believe that so very few have ever bothered themselves to investigate it at its source.

It was for that reason that I've begun to try to read the Koran as well.
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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:40 am

Done it all, but only "slept on the ground" and "shot a rifle" was done in the army.
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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Wed Feb 09, 2005 3:16 am

While I respect the hell out of Col. Cooper, I have to say this...one does not have be proficient in any of the above areas prior to joining to be successful in the Army,

Of course that's true. Although Mr. Cooper believes that the art of shooting is best taught from father to son while growing up, not at 18 in boot camp. This is more of a list to show how so many kids today grow up spending more time playing video games and surfing the net than they actually are going out and doing things. Of course it's not a list of actual military requirements.


Ask any Drill Sergeant what they would rather have, a guy who already knows everything, or some guy that knows little but is eager and willing to learn.

I do think that a drill sergeant would rather have someone who grew up camping and canoeing instead of going on a cruise to the Bahamas. He'd probably rather have someone who knows how to shoot a rifle and has already made his first kill (and hopefully ate it!) compared to someone who has only killed on an X-Box. That sort of thing--although a recruit who shows up to boot camp already having attended Gunsite or Thunder Ranch is going to be at a big advantage, in my opinion.
 
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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:07 am

At Disneyworld in Florida a couple years ago I was horrified to see parents pushing their healthy ten year old boys in strollers. It was so common as to not draw a second glance from anyone. What are they trying to do? Weaken them? Promote obesity?

Beyond that, any boy over five years of age who would consent to being pushed in a baby carriage or stroller isn't worth the powder to blow him to hell.

What kind of Army will these kids make?
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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:45 am

Have you ever

Y - slept on the ground (Big fan of camping)
N - cleaned a fish (It sounds like fun, though)
Y- climbed a mountain (A 12,000 foot one at that! Of course, the ground was 10,000 feet high.
Y - thrown a punch (I, like SLC1, hope Taekwondo counts, although I think I punched someone in the 5th grade.)
Y - ridden a horse (At the county fair a few years ago and at my uncle's house in Peru.)
Y - shot a rifle (Shot a bird with a sniper rifle in Peru a few years back.)
N - sailed a boat (I get seasick quite easily.)
N - changed a wheel (Never had to, fortunately.)
Y - built a fire (I like to watch things burn.)
N - read the Bible (Never!)
 
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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:00 am

Have you ever

Y - slept on the ground ( sleeping bags though )
Y - cleaned a fish ( plenty )
Y - climbed a mountain ( plenty, though on foot...not the rope/grappling hook type )
Y - thrown a punch ( I remember some scuffles as a kid/teen )
Y - ridden a horse ( got thrown off it too...that was the end of THAT )
Y - shot a rifle ( lots and lots of times. Pretty darn good at it too! )
Y - sailed a boat ( not solo, but assisted among several on friend's private boats in the Hudson River )
Y - changed a wheel ( a helluva lot, both aircraft and automotive )
Y - built a fire ( yeah, I like overengineering the art of fire building/tending )
Y - read the Bible. ( Compulsory, as a kid in sunday school )
 
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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:15 am

Y - slept on the ground (a few times)
Y - cleaned a fish (many times)
Y - climbed a mountain (well not true mountaineering style, but I've been pretty high)
Y - thrown a punch
Y - ridden a horse (duh, I grew up in Alberta Big grin )
Y - shot a rifle (Several times)
Y - sailed a boat (A few times in my uncles boat in BC)
Y - changed a wheel
Y - built a fire (many, many times)
N - read the Bible.


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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:46 am

Y - slept on the ground
Y - cleaned a fish
N - climbed a mountain
Y - thrown a punch
Y - ridden a horse (Sevral years back)
Y - shot a rifle
Y - sailed a boat (had to be "rescued" by another boat)
Y - changed a wheel (I love yhis one, and does it sevral times a year)
Y - built a fire
Y - read the Bible (not much though, but i guess it still counts)

I really agree with Thom@s: military was a great time for me, and I still miss Bodø MAS.

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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:15 am

Y - slept on the ground
Y - cleaned a fish
Y - climbed a mountain
N - thrown a punch
Y - ridden a horse
Y - shot a rifle
Y - sailed a boat
Y - changed a wheel
Y - built a fire
Y - read the Bible.

Almost there, although I hope not to go punching people anytime soon. Don't want to get kicked out of school...  Big grin

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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:35 pm

Y - slept on the ground
Y - cleaned a fish
Y - climbed a mountain
Y - thrown a punch
Y - ridden a horse
Y - shot a rifle
Y - sailed a boat
N - changed a wheel
N - built a fire
N - read the Bible.

There you have it!
 
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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:43 pm

Y - slept on the ground
Y - cleaned a fish
Y - climbed a mountain (Does it count on my Jeep?)
N - thrown a punch
Y - ridden a horse
Y - shot a rifle
Y - sailed a boat (Yea, for 6 months straight)
Y - changed a wheel
Y - built a fire
Y - read the Bible. (Not the whole thing, but I'm gonna say "yes" becuase I have read some of it.)
 
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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:44 pm

Y - slept on the ground (does the 1st floor of a Westin Hotel count?)
N - cleaned a fish (don't they clean themselves?... after all they live in water)
Y - climbed a mountain (if mountain driving is included)
N - thrown a punch (I've drank some though)
N - ridden a horse (pew... I don't like that just-off-the-horse smell)
N - shot a rifle (uh... you don't want a rifle in my hands)
N - sailed a boat (not a very good swimmer)
N - changed a wheel (Isn't that what the AAA is for?)
N - built a fire (Then live in one? Not prescribed)
Y - read the Bible (I am not much of a reader... took me 4 years to get through it)

I guess I'm not only unfit for military service, but probably the most boring person ever to grace the earth.  Smile

Seriously though, I have tried to enlist in the ROTC, but was rejected because of an old back injury, otherwise I'm as fit as an ox. My brother is also unfit for military service due to a rare blood disorder.


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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:53 pm

For the last two who said they used vehicles to climb a mountain, no, that does not count...your vehicle climbed the mountain, not you, you were just being propelled up it by your vehicle...

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RE: Young Men's Fitness For Military Service

Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:02 pm

Yes to all of the above.

Slept on the Ground, Ha Ha - I was in the Army for 24 years, what do you think?
Cleaned a Fish, I live in Alaska, Nuf Said
Climbed a Mountain - well, okay nothing like McKinley or Everest or anything, but enough
Thrown a Punch, are you kiddin the Brits and Yanks used to go at it in the clubs at Baumholder. Then we'd drink each other silly. Damn good guys those Brit Tankers.
Ridden a Horse, and a Bull too. Not wanting to repeat either.
Shot a Rifle, uh,back to that Army thing again.
Sailed a Boat, Resurrection Bay. I prefer them with motors however.
Changed a Wheel, Yup, on a jeep, 2 1/2, 5 ton, Tank Road Wheel (They're a bitch), and of course my own truck
Built a Fire, of course, nothing better to cook that fresh caught Alaskan Salmon
Read the Bible, Yes, out of Curiosity. Interesting Reading.


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