tbar220
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Explain These Poll Numbers To Me

Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:42 pm

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20050211/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_ap_poll

Adults were evenly divided on Bush's job performance in January, but now 54 percent disapprove and 45 percent approve. The number who think the country is headed down the wrong track increased from 51 percent to 58 percent in the past month.

The AP poll did not ask about Social Security, although only four in 10 in the poll said they approved of Bush's handling of domestic policy in general. And a majority of people disapproved of his handling of the economy.

Just over four in 10, 42 percent, said they approved of the president's handling of Iraq, while 57 percent disapproved.


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What I don't understand, is why a majority of people voted for him, and a majority of people don't think he's doing his job well. Is there no such thing as job accountability? Apparently a majority of people think he's doing a bad job, and yet still voted him into office.

Of course people are going to attack the poll numbers and shoot them down, but that's not what I want to discuss here.
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RE: Explain These Poll Numbers To Me

Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:25 pm

The polls are purely about GWB's performance, it would appear. It can only be presumed that GWB doing a bad job is better than the Democrat alternative. Or are there other views?
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RE: Explain These Poll Numbers To Me

Fri Feb 11, 2005 11:15 pm

Because polls are statistical tools that can be manipulated to say just about anything you want them to say based on:
-who is polled
-question asked
-population (number polled)
-how the question is asked
-truthfulness of the responder
-how it is reported
-and controls put in place.

Whereas an election reflects the actual result. That's why I couldn't even remotely understand why some groups believed what was said in exit polls vs. the actual returns.

Polls have their place, but I certainly wouldn't put much faith in them.
 
tbar220
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RE: Explain These Poll Numbers To Me

Mon Feb 14, 2005 8:58 am

Air2gxs,

Let's say there's a 5% margin of error in that poll. That is a very generous number. Even with that there is no majority of approval in any of those numbers. There is a basis to statistics, and independent groups who do this can give pretty accurate results.

And even so, don't you think the president should be doing a better job? Do you honestly believe that most of the country approves of his job in Iraq, approves of his handling of the economy, etc. etc.? And with so many people not liking his performance, I find it insane that so many voted for him. It could not have simply been "vote for Bush because he's better than the other guy".

Are people so hesitant to speak out against Bush? The only action they had was in their vote and now with the majority of people not approving of his job so close after the election, it seems like such a waste.

I'm curious what a very informal poll on this website would reveal.
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RE: Explain These Poll Numbers To Me

Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:14 am

Simple, polls can be made to reflect whatever the pollster and sponsor want them to say. Since a few days after the election the media has been telling us that "Bush's approval numbers are falling". The media has its marching orders from the DNC to do everything they can to try and hurt the President. They don't seem to realize that public no longer believes everything the media says.
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RE: Explain These Poll Numbers To Me

Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:31 am

Of course people are going to attack the poll numbers and shoot them down, but that's not what I want to discuss here.

What isn't clear in the above is how many of those respondents think Dubya stinks or shines but didn't vote. Without greater depth to the survey it is pretty meaningless.

If the survey was confined to those who actually voted then it might be more revealing, or if the polling was detailed enough to differentiate voters and non-voters and their preferences.
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RE: Explain These Poll Numbers To Me

Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:59 am

Iraq, Deficit spending, War, National Debt, These things don't matter. As long as Gays can't marry the world is OK. Thanks Dubya...
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tbar220
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RE: Explain These Poll Numbers To Me

Mon Feb 14, 2005 1:14 pm

B757,

A little topic off but...

The media has its marching orders from the DNC to do everything they can to try and hurt the President.

Are you serious??
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