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What Do You Think Of "the Police" In General?

Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:23 am

There's an old saying: everyone hates the cops, until you need them.

Is this how you feel?



Then again, I'm sure there's those out there with the utmost respect for officers of the law: they put their lives on the line every day to serve and protect; only to get paid salaries that a horse wouldn't want, while being called everything but a Child o' God as their reward.




So lay it on the line for us, and be honest. What say you about the cops, and what led you to feel that way?

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RE: What Do You Think Of "the Police" In General?

Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:32 am

Ok, can I make a bengiet joke, because I had a LA State Trooper make one at Krewe of Thoth last week  Smile.

Anyway, I think the police are great as long as they treat others with respect and are not corrupt. That is why I like the police in the UK so much, they treat everyone well and don't get on power trips (probably has something to do with not carrying guns). The police in the US tend to lean the wrong way a lot of times, though I have ridden along with the NOPD and they have some very interesting characters. Oh, and the TSA are not police so they need to get rid of some of their attitude (from a conversation with an LAPD officer at the stand behind the T1 checkpoint at LAX)
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RE: What Do You Think Of "the Police" In General?

Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:36 am

They are still regarded around here as being Margaret Thatcher's private army. The less I have to do with them the better I'm afraid. I'm not someone who's anti-authroity either. I just don't have a great deal of time for them.

Tim.

Edit: The South Yorkshire police that is.

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Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:38 am

As a child I witnessed a hostage situation in northern Queens back in 1993. Needless to say that it was a terrifying situation with about 40 police officers training their sidearms on a deranged man who took his girlfriend hostage with a pistol. In a nearby building my parents and I were laying flat on the floor for fear that if the situation went wrong bullets would be flying everywhere. The situation ended in about 2 hours when the hostage taker was shot by police at an opportune moment (I believe one officer was wounded in the hand when the man attempted to fire at the police). That was the first and only time in my life that I have heard gunfire.

I feel quite secure about police... sure some can be rude, crass, and downright apathetic at times... especially in big cities, but when they are around I feel safer.



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RE: What Do You Think Of "the Police" In General?

Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:59 am

only to get paid salaries that a horse wouldn't want

Actually, a lot of cops get paid pretty well, considering the government benefits that most of them get.


The only difference between law enforcement officers and private citizens is that anyone can make an arrest for a felony, but only cops can arrest you for a misdemeanor like speeding. But any way you look at it, local cops or your local sheriff tend to be a lot better than BATmen, the FBI, etc.


In a nearby building my parents and I were laying flat on the floor for fear that if the situation went wrong bullets would be flying everywhere.

Quite right to be afraid. It has been documented that government officials tend to be terrible shots.
 
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Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:59 am

I think for the most part, we're pretty good guys and gals . . .  Big thumbs up


We're all human, as such, even cops go bad occasionally . . . I hate that, there's nothing I hate worse than a dirty cop.


I enjoy it . . . great job . . . it's not a power trip . . . there are rules (wish the bad guys had some) . . . do my job, keep my integrity intact . . .


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Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:16 pm

I think on a whole most cops are good, but it is the few bad eggs that we remember and talk about. There will be people in every job that go out on power trips and let it all go to their head, and with cops that is also true. The thing is, these people interact with the public and this behavior is on display. It is these cops that have ruined the reputation of many good cops out there. Of course, all the cops I run into happen to be of the arrogant power-trip variety.  Sad

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Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:31 pm

I hate traffic cops, and I hate cops that are corrupt and those drunk with their own power, but I know there are good cops out there who I respect.
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Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:36 pm

I have a great amount of respect for the men and women who serve and protect us. They put up with a lot of disrespect from criminals and even the citizenry that they are there to protect, yet most of them do their job to the best of their abilities. Of course, my opinion is shaped by the fact that I've known law enforcement officers and work around them in court. Also, my great-great-grandparents served as Sheriff in Dallam County, Texas in the 1930s. My great-great-grandfather, Sheriff Alexander was killed in the line of duty while pursuing a group of cattle rustlers with two of his deputies. Two of the three rustlers were killed almost immediately thereafter by one of the deputies and the third man seriously wounded by the other. His wife, a deputy at the time, was promoted to Sheriff and fulfilled the remainder of his term.
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RE: What Do You Think Of "the Police" In General?

Sun Feb 13, 2005 1:21 pm

These people have difficult jobs that require skill, dedication, and courage. They do it for less money than the average person of there talent adn seniority earns in the private sector, and take heaps of abuse from certain sectors of society.

I respect them and support them in their efforts. Sure there's always going to be some bad seeds, but they are the minority. Most of them are looking to do their jobs and go home at the end of the day.
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Sun Feb 13, 2005 1:34 pm

I quite like em, they were one of the best bands of the early 80s. I was rocking out to them just the other day in my car.











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RE: What Do You Think Of "the Police" In General?

Sun Feb 13, 2005 1:36 pm

I quite like them to be honest, got many cop friends and i socialise with many of them - i dont know any bad or corrupt cops only the odd incomopetant few.

im off to new york for some photography im sure to bump into new yorks finest?

whats the chance of a ride-a-long with a new york cop?

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Sun Feb 13, 2005 1:55 pm

I've had a few experiences with the NYPD and think they are the best police force I have experienced, and I know that many will disagree with me. I like New Yorkers in general actually.
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RE: What Do You Think Of "the Police" In General?

Sun Feb 13, 2005 2:00 pm

whats the chance of a ride-a-long with a new york cop?

Depends, do you want to sit in the front or back?  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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RE: What Do You Think Of "the Police" In General?

Sun Feb 13, 2005 3:43 pm

Hmm..depends, I hate traffic cops...seems they don't have anything better to do than pull you over coz you were going 5 km/h over the speed limit and give you a ticket for 100 bucks.
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RE: What Do You Think Of "the Police" In General?

Sun Feb 13, 2005 4:35 pm

Never had a problem with them except for those that insist on being a dicks about things they really don't need to be.

I work at an airport and, like most airports, it's forbidden to stop and stay in front of the terminal, even if you're in the car. But, instead of going to someone and informing them they can't stay and to move on and drive around again, they get nasty about it. It's things like that that get me. Otherwise, I've always found cops to be friendly, hard working people.

only to get paid salaries that a horse wouldn't want

Hmmm, someone might want to tell that to the MA State Police. What with there $50/hour overtime rates and other nice benefits (free education at any MA university, health/dental insurance, etc.) on top of their regular salary which still affords a comfortable lifestyle.

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Sun Feb 13, 2005 4:51 pm

For every "bad seed" out there, there are thousands of honest, dedicated professionals out there, doing a job that needs to be done. They don't do it for fame, glory, or money. They do it to serve and protect.

Unlike most jobs, its not just 9-5. Some say an Officer is always on duty.


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Sun Feb 13, 2005 4:54 pm

I consider most police to be over-paid goons. Here in Toronto they spend alot of time lounging around the upper-class n/hood I live in drinking coffee. I rarely see them working hard. Crimes go unsolved while cops work overtime "staffing" bar line-ups.

They speed for no reason, have terrible traffic skills, block traffic at other times.

Corruption in all police forces it seems is endemic, and they look after themselves first it seems.

I would like to see police wages/compensation tied to statistics showing the % of crimes solved. If they solve fewer crimes, their pay goes down.



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Sun Feb 13, 2005 6:44 pm

Out here.
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RE: What Do You Think Of "the Police" In General?

Sun Feb 13, 2005 6:52 pm

Well for those who say they dont like them how many of you would call them if you were robbed etc ? or maybe we should just get rid of them then where would we be.
 
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RE: What Do You Think Of "the Police" In General?

Sun Feb 13, 2005 6:57 pm

If you go right by the law they'll go right with you. I've never had any problems with them, other than the aviation police at the airport, but I soon got rid of them.
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Sun Feb 13, 2005 6:58 pm

They speed for no reason, have terrible traffic skills, block traffic at other times.

Yup, same kinda thing here in Adelaide too. Just yesterday, I saw a cop jump 2 red lights, and he had no lights or sirens..he just went straight through, luckily there was no traffic on the other roads. Real idiot, people like that don't deserve to wear the uniform.
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RE: What Do You Think Of "the Police" In General?

Sun Feb 13, 2005 7:18 pm

Isn't this spirit phrased by the sticker on the police car how you like your armed protectors best:

Here is the full story:
http://kget.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=ed9cc47f-da34-405c-a679-9591ada281dc

Well, on topic I can say that the old saying in the original post is not what I think of the police.
They are mostly there to help and protect and I respect that.
Then they are also there to rip you off for traffic violations etc. Seems they have to fill up the cummunities cashiers as much as they can. That gives them a bad reputation. I also think some police officers are mostly people that like to be able to exercise some sort of power or authority and they enjoy doing that.

I don't know how the day-to-day live of an officer is from first hand, but watching the TV-coverage it seems it can be pretty tough to deal with all those problems. It's hard to deal with al those people who think they know better. However, it doesn't seem so dangerous to me. That might be different anywhere the crime rate is higher. Most of them (at least here) do not have to put their lives on the line daily except if they work in a hot spot or so.

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Sun Feb 13, 2005 7:21 pm

Springbok747 -

Oh, really? When's the last time you got a speeding ticket for going JUST 5 km/hr over the limit???  Big grin

And what's your best time driving to Melbourne???
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Sun Feb 13, 2005 8:21 pm

They speed for no reason, have terrible traffic skills, block traffic at other times. That can't be said about the New Zealand Police  Smile.

Heaps of New Zealanders think that the police (mostly Traffic and Highway Patrol) are just revenue takers for the Government. If the New Zealand public think this then it would be expected that they would keep in the speed limit, but no they don't. One day last year when I was spending a day shift with a traffic officer in an unmarked car, the officer and I parked on a hill and stayed there for about 15 minutes and pointed the stalker unit (shows appraching cars speed) and at least 90% of all the appraching cars were going over the speed limit. No wonder speeding drivers cause over 75% of all New Zealands road smashes.

I have huge respect for the New Zealand Police and I have heaps of police friends.





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Sun Feb 13, 2005 8:33 pm

When I have to pay EUR 10 for parking without fee, I have to admit: my fault!
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Sun Feb 13, 2005 8:35 pm

What people need to remember is that the police make contact with hundreds of people each day. These people have varying attitudes (much like the people in this thread). I'm not sure about you, but after having said "you can't park here" twenty times in one day (while in clear view of a no parking sign) that twenty-first person is going to hear some attitude. Is it fair? No, it's not, but that's what you get when dealing with people, police officers are not robots.

 
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Sun Feb 13, 2005 8:53 pm

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Couldn't agree with you more. Its amazes me how abusive people get.
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Sun Feb 13, 2005 9:24 pm

But they have to behave themselves - they have to inform themselves what to expect.

It depends on the country, I think. In some countries policemen and -women have too much power and they abuse their authority sometimes. As long as this happens, we needn't wonder if people dont like them.
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Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:03 pm

I consider most police to be over-paid goons please see my sig and username you may be right Yyz717 !!

Poilce put their lives on the line every day they put their uniform on, Ill admit that the power thing is there and that cant be denied but, also that power cannot be allowed to be abused.

I can only speak from my experiences but ive not met any corrupt Police officers - In England we cannot take any money from anyone and or evidence it would be just too difficult.

We live a crazy lifestyle and adrenalin rush from certain incidents puts you on a high, we work unsociable hours, eat and sleep at weird times of the day/night and meet the dregs of society day in day out, only last night i was wiping someones blood from my jacket - I turned to my fellow officer and said " why do we do this?, why dont we get a cushy 9-5 number in an office" it seemed a dream job at the time but hey ive woken up and im off to work tonight at 5pm and i cant wait!

who could cope with this out there? emergency services personel go through some amazing stress levels just doing their job.

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RE: What Do You Think Of "the Police" In General?

Mon Feb 14, 2005 4:01 am

I should point out that we all absolutely detest the local campus ticket cops, who aren't real cops, of course. Especially the fat one who rides around on a golf cart giving tickets because he's too lazy to walk.
 
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Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:57 am

AzoresLover..

Um, ok...maybe I was going 10km/h over the limit Big grin

But, still, that's no reason to actually pull you over and give you a ticket...damn cops.
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RE: What Do You Think Of "the Police" In General?

Mon Feb 14, 2005 11:22 am

I was going 10km/h over the limit...that's no reason to actually pull you over and give you a ticket

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Mon Feb 14, 2005 11:33 am

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Mon Feb 14, 2005 11:36 am

AzoresLover,

In the state of Victoria, getting a fine for going 5km over the limit is pretty common. Ever since they abolsihed the 10% tolerance rule in favour of a set 3km tolerance. It sucks, big time!!!!
 
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Mon Feb 14, 2005 11:55 am

Actually that's an edited image of the Kern County Sheriff's car. The actual lettering said "We'll Kick Your @ss and Take Your Doughnuts Too!" Word is that the lettering was done by a sign company employee on his last day on the job-evidently he had given notice and was either retiring or changing careers. Since the extra lettering was only applied to the passenger's side, it took a little while for someone to notice it.

Concerning the tolerance rule, in the states I've lived in (TN and AZ) there is no official tolerance. 70 mph means 70 mph, not 73 or 75 so technically the officer is required to cite you if you're one mile an hour over the limit. However, most officers use common sense and will use their discretion. If you're a couple of miles an hour over the limit and driving safely, they won't bother with citing you. However, if your driving appears to be unsafe you'd better bet they'll stop you. DUI related deaths in AZ are pretty low due to aggressive enforcement by local and state law enforcement.
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Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:37 pm

It seems to me some people feel that busting the speed limit is a "victimless crime" or not even a crime at all. Truth is, excessive speed and driver inattention cause a great many accidents.

Now I don't know if the driver in the following video was speeding, but he/she certainly wasn't paying attention:
http://www.big-boys.com/articles/copnearmiss.html
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Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:44 pm

Here's my humble, common sense approach to a TS.

Open Highway, Speed limit 65, there are two vehicles both traveling same direction, me and you. You're churning along about 70-72. You're running along fine, no hazardous vehicle ops, no swerving, no talking on your cell phone, you haven't hit a moose . . . etc. My radar flashes and I obviously got you . . . and I'll quickly hit the lights, let you know you've been busted and keep on going, leaving you alone.

In traffic, better be running with the traffic, no bizarre moves, like changing lanes across three lanes, or cutting anyone off, constantly changing lanes, etc. At that point, regardless of speed, I'm gonna get you for reckless operation.

In town - it's a whole different animal. Run a red light, Mine. Run a stop sign, Mine. Exceed speed in a school zone, damn sure mine. Exceed speed in a residential area, you're definitely all mine. Go 5 over the limit downtown or mid town, I'll stop you - give you a warning most likely. Act like a fool in a store parking lot, you're all done.

Now, there's this other thing about Traffic Stops I use to evaluate whether or not you're going to owe the government some of your hard earned cash . . .

Did you fail the attitude test.

Example: Jeesuz, I was only going 5 mile over the fuckin' limit man . . . you fuckin' cops are assholes, you SOB . . . you get the picture.

Did you turn in to a weasel.

Example: Oh Man, I really can't afford this right now, can't you gimme a break. God if my Wife/Husband/Mom/Dad finds out she's/he's gonna really pissed.

Did you turn into a pathelogical liar?

I was not frickin' speeding, I don't give a shit what your radar said. I just had this speedometer synchronized.

Did you attempt to invoke the name of a known diety or demi-God:

Do you know who I am, I'm personal friends with the lady that washes the dog for the neighbor of the guy who used to be in the office next door to the housekeeper for the Mayor's third cousin in Timbuktoo.

Be straight with me, you'll likely get through it no sweat. Any of the above. Better work some overtime.

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RE: What Do You Think Of "the Police" In General?

Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:45 pm

Like they say, it only takes one bad example to give the whole group a bad name.

http://www.odmp.org/officer.php?oid=17542

They (probably purposely) neglected to mention the part where the wrong-way drunk driver was an off duty police officer. That's what irritates the crap out of me. I wonder how many DWI's the guy handed out before the night he killed himself and a fellow police officer by driving drunk. I guess for him it was "do as I say, not as I do".

Another story is that I was sitting in the FBO at the Tampa airport last year, and a group of Tampa's finest met there to practice an escort that they would be doing the next day for, I think it was VP Cheney. Anywho, after the meeting was over, they were sitting there shooting the bull, and they were discussing from what I could gather (please correct me if I'm wrong if anyone knows), was how to calibrate their radars when leaving the station. Supposedly once a day they're supposed to shoot the radar at a reflector that was hanging on a sign near the exit. Guess how many knew the proper procedure? Not many. But they sure don't have any problem writing speeding tickets.

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Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:52 pm

Learpilot - that's probably function check, not a calibration. Techie types handle the calibration.
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Mon Feb 14, 2005 1:29 pm

Definately sounds like a function check. As ANCFlyer said, technitions do the actual tuning of the units and (if memory serves me right) are required to certify that the unit is in proper working order when it leaves the shop. All the cop does is a function check before running radar. Also, many states only allow radar to be used in certain areas that are approved in each jurisdiction. In otherwords, the officer cannot shoot radar just anywhere they feel like it.
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Mon Feb 14, 2005 3:31 pm

ANCflyer, you are cracking me up with your description of differing attitudes of your "customers."

Maybe it's age or maturity, but last time I got pulled over for speeding (last fall), I regarded it as a business transaction- and (unlike instances in the past when I got tickets) as a citation for DWHUA (I presume this acronym is known to you?).

The officer was the model of professionalism, quick and efficient and the soul of courtesy. And he was right- I was zipping right along in a stretch of road which I, myself, knew to be more hazardous than most. And passing in the right lane. His nimrod detector (laser-enabled) pinged on me right away.

Of course, I wish that highway patrols would pay more attention to proper right of way (left lane) enforcement, but that dream is too bold to imagine.

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If I put that on my car, I'd land at Crowley and they'd lose my file. Him? Every time he gets pulled over, he ends up yukkin' it up with the officer. Living charmed, I guess...
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RE: What Do You Think Of "the Police" In General?

Mon Feb 14, 2005 3:34 pm

"Bad Cop, No Donut."

Ha Ha Ha . . . I have the very bumper sticker - given to me by my girlfriend - in the back window of the topper on the BAFDT. (I stick no objects on the bumper or paint).

It's hilarious!  Big thumbs up
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RE: What Do You Think Of "the Police" In General?

Mon Feb 14, 2005 3:41 pm

With regard to the issue of speed tolerance, of course speeding is not a victimless crime. Nor is redlight running ( i was almost taken out by a guy running a red light yesterday on my way to work, lucky i braked, cos he certainly didn't).
But back to the point; when you look at the callaboration problems associated with speed cameras, as well as the point that in many areas of automotive engineering, 10% leeway is the norm, i think that some tolerance should be included.
Those fellow Melbournians here would remember what happened with the fixed speed cameras on the Western Ring Road, that were found to be wrong, and so the government ended up refunding a few thousand drivers the money they were fined.
 
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RE: What Do You Think Of "the Police" In General?

Mon Feb 14, 2005 3:58 pm

Those fellow Melbournians here would remember what happened with the fixed speed cameras on the Western Ring Road, that were found to be wrong, and so the government ended up refunding a few thousand drivers the money they were fined.

Haha..yeah..the best thing that ever happened  Big thumbs up

But, here in Adelaide, the speed cameras are also set up to catch people who jump lights. That's bloody dangerous..but some idiots still do it. IMO jumping traffic lights is a way more serious offence than overspeeding.

I mean, if the speed limit is 110 km/h and I'm driving 120, that's no reason for the damn cop to actually chase me..lights flashing and all...and give me a ticket for 100 bucks. The freeway was empty, and it's not as if I was going to go kill someone..120 km/h is not that fast. When I got pulled over (I was driving back from Melbourne on the Western Highway), the damn cop treated me like a criminal, asked me to take a breathalyzer, and he even searched my car...WTF?! I hate traffic cops. Real idiots, they treat you as though you've just murdered someone.
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RE: What Do You Think Of "the Police" In General?

Mon Feb 14, 2005 4:51 pm

Hey Springbok dude, welcome to Melbourne!!!
It really has gone beyond a joke here now; now especially with the 40kph limits outside schools.... c'mon!!
Melbournians on the whole are pretty shocking drivers, perhaps it's time to crack down on imcompetent and incourteous drivers, not those of us that CAN drive (albiet a few kms over the limit)
 
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RE: What Do You Think Of "the Police" In General?

Mon Feb 14, 2005 4:57 pm

Melbournians on the whole are pretty shocking drivers.

Um..not really, I've seen some worse drivers right here in Adelaide! But..yeah, people there seem to be very impatient.
Hehe..thanks for the welcome VHXLR8..I'll be driving down to Melbourne on March 2nd...for the F1 grand prix  Big thumbs up
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RE: What Do You Think Of "the Police" In General?

Mon Feb 14, 2005 5:27 pm

Depends where and whom.

Here An Garda Siochana are IMHO a good law enforcement agency, they're pretty laid back and don't blindingly follow the book.

The French Gendarmerie is pretty much the same...but French police...that is another story.

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RE: What Do You Think Of "the Police" In General?

Mon Feb 14, 2005 5:27 pm

Have an awesome time at the Grand Prix dude!!! Sadly i'll be working all through the grand prix : (

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