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Major Numbers Bungle In US TV Ratings?

Tue Feb 15, 2005 9:39 pm

Just came across this item.

With shows like Enterprise being cancelled, this is even more relevant. Ratings company Nielsen have owned up to a major bungle with their system, which has been assigning data from cable accounts to the wrong stacks. Viewers with cable and paid premium channels (if I read this right) have been confused with viewers who only take basic services, meaning that calculating a percentage of people who watch a show when they have access to it can't be done accurately.

http://www.saveenterprise.com/nielsensbotched.htm

Whilst this alone might not save any particular show, it is certainly making many people get angry and accusations are flying.

[Edited 2005-02-15 13:49:32]
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RE: Major Numbers Bungle In US TV Ratings?

Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:10 pm

Will be interesting to see HOW this may affect things. I liked the bit about how Nielsen notified clients AFTER the close of business.

But I think "Enterprise" is done, anyway.

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RE: Major Numbers Bungle In US TV Ratings?

Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:17 pm

Thanks for the link, they will get a note from us.

I think that "Enterprise" is the best of all of the ST series.

Some have had their moments.

TOS: City on the Edge of Forever. Love Edith Keeler/Joan Collins
DS9: Trials and Tribulations
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RE: Major Numbers Bungle In US TV Ratings?

Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:27 pm

Maybe if UPN had done a deal with Sky in the UK and Europe, as Sky did with the new Battlestar Galactica, it could have been saved. Sky didn't just licence BG, they took a share in the production costs along with Sci-Fi.

But back to Nielsen. This does raise a number of questions as shows have been cancelled recently using their data and not just Enterprise. Paramount cut costs on Enterprise but it was the Nielsen figures which finally killed it off.

Paramount (as distinct from the UPN network) are being very short-sighted anyway. They should also get their heads up and realise that business doesn't stop at the borders of the USA. It could have been part-funded with a foreign partner.
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RE: Major Numbers Bungle In US TV Ratings?

Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:47 pm

Paramount wanted to kill it last year, but allowed it to stay another year so they could syndicate it properly.

The new movie in development will make clear the near term future for Star Trek.

If it's successful perhaps SCIFI Channel will work a deal with Paramount.
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RE: Major Numbers Bungle In US TV Ratings?

Wed Feb 16, 2005 5:23 am

If the writing is crap, everything else doesn´t matter. And Enterprise simply does not have any decent writing. Sad to see, but it simply deserves the coup de grâce at this point...
 
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RE: Major Numbers Bungle In US TV Ratings?

Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:24 am

The major problem regarding Enterprise was UPN. The network is the butt of many jokes and really isn't taken seriously. Enterprise would have had a better shot being syndicated right from the start, just like "The Next Generation."
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RE: Major Numbers Bungle In US TV Ratings?

Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:28 am

They keep Andromeda in production but axe Enterprise....


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RE: Major Numbers Bungle In US TV Ratings?

Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:36 am

Viewers with cable and paid premium channels (if I read this right) have been confused with viewers who only take basic services

A ha! So perhaps those lame shows HBO produces really HAVEN'T been that good in the ratings!  Big thumbs up
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RE: Major Numbers Bungle In US TV Ratings?

Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:45 am


Quoting Dtwclipper (reply 2):
I think that "Enterprise" is the best of all of the ST series


Quite agree. Less techno-babble. Not everything could be fixed by aiming some beam out of an apparently endless supply of Main Deflectors! Ha Ha.

I did get tired of the Xendi chase.

You still had to push a button to talk to someone - or leave a toom, etc.

I did like ST-TOS. I also enjoyed ST-TNG, but DS9 and YGR were sometimes boring.

I'm going to miss Enterprise.

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RE: Major Numbers Bungle In US TV Ratings?

Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:46 am

DS9 didn't start hitting it's stride until the later seasons, when it became a war story.
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RE: Major Numbers Bungle In US TV Ratings?

Wed Feb 16, 2005 11:27 pm

More on the loss of Enterprise from CNN:


LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Trekkies are uniting to win a reprieve for "Star Trek: Enterprise," slated to end its mission on UPN in May.

"Save Star Trek" was the headline of a full-page ad in Tuesday's Los Angeles Times that called on fans to get the show a new TV home through a petition campaign and rally.

"Captain Archer and the crew of the NX-01 need your help to continue their journeys!" the ad read, calling the "Star Trek" franchise a "cultural icon."



http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/02/16/tv.startrek.ap/index.html
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RE: Major Numbers Bungle In US TV Ratings?

Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:57 am

DS9 didn't start hitting it's stride until the later seasons, when it became a war story

Agreed. Any Star Trek show has to involve ships in motion and/or action to be entertaining - and DS9, about a non-moving space station - was lame at first.
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