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Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:08 pm

Dubai is planning the construction of a new Airport. The Jebel Ali Airport will be one of the biggest airport for civil aviation. 6 parallel runways are projected. 120 mio pax and 70 mio t cargo should be handled and the airport will have 370 gates able to handle the A380.

already in 2007 the first part will be opened (1 runway). dubai planned this development to begin after 2010, but want to start now due to lack of capacitiy in its existing city airport.

source: www.orf.at with reference to the german newspaper "die Welt"

http://www.welt.de/data/2005/02/09/460731.html?search=dubai&searchHILI=1

here is a press release from dubai airport:

http://www.dubaiairport.com/DIAInternet/About+DIA/Press+Room/Press+Releases/Jebel+Ali+Airport.htm

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Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:11 pm

This has been discussed many times in the past...



http://www.dubaiwaterfront.ae

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Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:22 pm

Dubai expect that they will have all those A380 services, they can keep dreaming.
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Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:25 pm

Now we really know why oil prices are as high as they are. Stupid sand traps like this being built a million miles from no where.

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Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:44 pm

this 370 A380 must be freighters. dont think they will ever get that much pax down there in the desert.
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Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:41 pm

Don't forget that they're marketing Dubai (and have been relatively successful up to now) as the ideal gateway between Europe and Australia, which is a huge market... Desert or not, if they can offer attractive fares they will get the pax on these routes.

This news was reported a few weeks ago however, and from what I remember the new airport will be mainly used for cargo, freeing space at DXB.
 
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Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:43 pm

I dont think they expect 370 A380s but are making the gates capable of handling A380s...most likely the majority of them will have A330s or 777s using them
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Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:47 pm

Stupid sand traps like this being built a million miles from no where.


Ah, the words of a seasoned World traveler. Not!

Have you actually been to Dubai? I would rank it 2nd in the list of the World's most dynamic cities (only topped by NY). Give it just a few more years, and it will be my #1.

In case you missed it, Dubai is re-establishing the ME as the crossroads of the World. Don't let your Bush-led prejudices blind you to the truth.  Smile

370 gates able to handle the A380

Where in the article did it say this?
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Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:13 pm

I prefer passing through singapore than Dubai to go to australia ...


If you look at and the earth globe , its quite a detour through dubai
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Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:17 pm

So first Boeing re-named the 7E7 to 787, so I guess now Airbus can re-name the A380 to the EK380. Big grin
 
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Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:28 pm

Dubai is right on track becoming one of the greatest spots on earth. And that needs infrastructure. Amazing what they have already achieved and what more is to come. Way to go Dubai!

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Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:29 pm

scbrml: it was mentioned in the article at orf.at (german only), that the airport will be able to handle 370 a380. though i guess they mean the gates will be designed to that.

i think handling 370 a380 at the same time would kill anyone  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:33 pm

"Now we really know why oil prices are as high as they are.".....well it's because of your government but anyway.....

Uhhh... No. Try again.

Nigeria has 300-400K barrels a day tied up in BS and Venezuela has yet to return to full production. Thanks for playing.

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Wed Feb 09, 2005 9:08 pm

""Now we really know why oil prices are as high as they are.".....well it's because of your government but anyway.....

Uhhh... No. Try again.

Nigeria has 300-400K barrels a day tied up in BS and Venezuela has yet to return to full production. Thanks for playing.".....you can always have your own opinion but that's all what your statement is Smile
 
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Wed Feb 09, 2005 9:18 pm

Oil prices aside and all that bologna aside (it honestly doesn't matter to me atm), Dubai wouldn't only be serving EK traffic. Since when has there been an airport built solely for one airline? This new one should not only be handling EK's A380 fleet but a handful of other intl airlines as well.


I wanna see an A380-900. Big grin
 
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Wed Feb 09, 2005 9:24 pm

Guys, let get serious here. Dubai exists because of oil, and if they can afford an airport with 370 gates for A380 in the middle of the desert, to support just one city, obviously they are making way to much money on that oil.
 
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Wed Feb 09, 2005 9:32 pm

Dubai exists because of oil, and if they can afford an airport with 370 gates for A380 in the middle of the desert, to support just one city, obviously they are making way to much money on that oil.

Dubai is running out of oil, so they are investing the money they've made into building a Dubai that is ready for when the oil runs out. Dubai is being turned into a major tourist and business destination, because they want to keep their level of prosperity in the future. Very smart thinking if you ask me...
 
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Wed Feb 09, 2005 9:53 pm

The Dubai Waterfront promotional video is cringe inducing.  Yeah sure

Great...just what the world really needs...more apartments!!!  Insane

They say it will be a 'balanced city development'  Wow! - a concept preached in almost every planning stage of every commercial development in every location in modern times. This translates into a place for the haves and the have mores.  Nuts

How far will the airport be from the Waterfront development? I would presume multi-million pound apartments would not suffer the indignity of aircraft movement noise?  Nuts
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Wed Feb 09, 2005 9:56 pm

I suggest for everyone making references to oil to visit Dubai and read more about its booming economy. If you look at all the major projects (Dubailand, The Palms, and now The Waterfront), you will realize that most of the money is being raised from the private sector, NOT the government. And this is because the private sector is very confident in the future of the city.


If you want to be fascinated, visit:

http://www.dubailand.com
http://www.legendsdubai.ae

Or visit the major property developers (each now building the tallest skyscrapers in the world, Burj Dubai and another building at The Waterfront)

http://www.emaar.com
http://www.nakheel.com

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Wed Feb 09, 2005 10:04 pm

1. Whats gonna happen to the old airport that is already sparkling new?

2. How far is this Jebel Ali/Palm Islands (New Dubai) area east or west from the regular Dubai?
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Wed Feb 09, 2005 10:17 pm

How many runways is this airport supposed to have? With 370 gates you are going to need at least 10 runways if the gates are all going to be used. I take it this airport is going to replace ORD and ATL as the busiest airport in the world.


I am guessing that this is in the masterplan for 20 years down the road. They will save enough room for 370 gates but I highly doubt they will build a 370 gate terminal immediately. That would be a real case of wishing "If we build it they will come". They probably have it in their plans incase capacity were to ever expand that much where it would be needed.

Doesn't having as many A380s as Emiraites will be getting defeat the purpose of needing to build that many gates though? We're talking 500 passengers each flight. Its not like Emiriates ordered 500 CRJ or ERJ aircraft. I don't even know if we will see 370 A380s ever fly. In a more serious note, if Emirates used the 777 or A330 as its largest aircraft and the largest regular aircraft to serve the airport was one of them, then it would make sense because they would be operating more frequency routes, but I don't see Emirates or any other A380 operator operating 10 flights a day between Dubai and wherever.
 
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Wed Feb 09, 2005 10:21 pm

Whats going to happen to the current airport?? Arent they building new terminals there for the A380??? 6 runways...wow.

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Wed Feb 09, 2005 10:43 pm

I have been warning of this for some time. Read my past threads. EK has targeted Eastern USA, Europe, and Africa to Asia traffic (Cargo and Passenger) Review their websites (news and releases) there are enough clues. IMHO they are banking upon the fact that LHR and other airports in the area will not be able to keep up. (Change with the times) The A380 and 787 will both provide the tools to enable this Mega-port. As I have said in a previous thread unless England follows the trend of Asia and builds a Sea airport,(Where else are they finding enough land?) the world will change around them.
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1946168/

People can argue on the fact that EK must be crazy to have ordered so many A380s. (Let alone hundreds as mentioned above) The real question should be asked "What does EK see that the rest of us do not?".
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Wed Feb 09, 2005 10:52 pm

What going to happen to OMDB, now this new airport is going to be built?


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Wed Feb 09, 2005 10:52 pm

Wow imagine that, planning for the future. This includes improving efficiency, making it pleasant for people going there and transiting. Welcoming visitors, and their cash. Instead of putting it down, maybe we could learn something over here. Maybe they are using oil $, who gives a cr*p it's their money. And if you think it's pie in the sky, look at EK's growth and load factors.
 
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Wed Feb 09, 2005 11:12 pm

To all who say this is gonna be billions of dollars set into the sand million miles away from anywhere:

Dubai has a HUGE stop-over market. There may not be millions of passengers travelling TO Dubai, but they are travelling THROUGH Dubai; so a bigger airport (if only to release some capacity from the old one) does make sense.
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Wed Feb 09, 2005 11:15 pm

There will be many airports in this region of the world than will fins themselves less congested.
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Wed Feb 09, 2005 11:19 pm

ooooppss...

I gave the wrong Dubailand link...the actual website is

http://www.dubailand.ae
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Wed Feb 09, 2005 11:25 pm

I was not going to mention this but I will... Innovation is the key to success. The 747 was ran over by the A380 because Boeing made the choice not to keep it competitive. When others (Airbus) suggested the idea of a new mega-plane Boeing laughed and said it would cost to much money and serve to little of a market. It is strange to me that this issue is the same. EK and Dubai are now playing the role of Airbus with their new mega-port and England has become Boeing. The point is...wake up and smell the coffee or someone else will have your brew.

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Wed Feb 09, 2005 11:31 pm


I am guessing that this is in the masterplan for 20 years down the road. They will save enough room for 370 gates but I highly doubt they will build a 370 gate terminal immediately


Exactly that is the point.

BTW: "Die Welt" (=The World) is not exactly the best german newspaper and journalists often ignore important points in aviation.

@BlackNight:
you are right, the European Airlines have to be prepared to the competition of EK. However, I guess that LHR, LGW, LCY, STN, and LTN together have at least the same capacity as the new Dubai Airport. FRA and CDG can build new runways. Freight can be shifted to Airports like STN or HHN.

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Wed Feb 09, 2005 11:50 pm

This seems like some wishful thinking by Dubai. I have never been- but if the wealthiest and one of the largest cities in the world makes due with a total of 7 or 8 runways (NYC) and much smaller aircraft, I don't see how a small city in the desert like Dubai could possible fill all those seats- even in 20 years!

By the same token, the largest transfer hub airports in the world (ATL and ORD) all run with 4 runways. These airports are in far larger O&D cities with a far more mature aviation marketplace.

Seems nutty- but perhaps I do not have the same ability to predict the future that they do. I commend Dubai and EK for thinking outside the box and thinking big. As it is so revolutionary and unproven, I just hope it does not blow up in their face. No risk, no reward.

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Wed Feb 09, 2005 11:58 pm

There is an old joke that when you die you have to pass through ATL. In the future, it may become when you die you have to pass through Dubai!

Ken's bad joke of the day.....feel free to ignore it.

On a positive note, at least Dubai is planning for the future. Most airports only seem to plan for the past 10 years.

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Thu Feb 10, 2005 12:05 am

hm, just one thought...

dubai is preparing itself for a time, when the oil is finished. diversification. thats smart. but with what will their A380 fly, if the oil is finished?

 Big thumbs up

else, a good project for the future. lets hope there is no other plan for this region in someones mind, across the pond...
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Thu Feb 10, 2005 12:18 am

dubai is preparing itself for a time, when the oil is finished. diversification. thats smart. but with what will their A380 fly, if the oil is finished?

Macc, that's an interesting point!
However, I think it'll burn oil from the canadian sands which will last longer than the gulf oil.

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Thu Feb 10, 2005 12:35 am

Saudi Arabia and Iraq have proven and unproven oil reserves which will last for at least 100 years.....thats where the oil will come from to fly those A380s! But hopefully, a/c wont run on oil for that long...we cant keep polluting the environment and pretend we're doing a 'good job' in 'per seat emissions'...fact is, there are more and more passengers so the net result is more and more pollution! Did Airbus and Boeing think of this? Sure they did, they just dont market their 'environment friendly' a/c in that transparent way.
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Enough rich people in the region that goes to Bahrain and UAE for leasure
and biz. Also don´t forget the Hajj flights and guest-working flights, not
everyone travelling there are tourists.


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Thu Feb 10, 2005 1:16 am

I wish my city planners would be progressive enough to put infrastructure in place before it's needed. If Dubai has the money and leadership to do it, then it's their gain.
 
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Thu Feb 10, 2005 1:23 am

370 A-380's would likely be the entire production run of the airframe for the next 5 years.

Looks like EK has some real purchasing plans for a while.  Smile
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Thu Feb 10, 2005 1:27 am

>Now we really know why oil prices are as high as they are. Stupid sand traps like this being built a million miles from no where.<

They don't rely on oil in Dubai anymore, they have almost none. 5-10 years tops. Dubai may have become rich from oil, but they are staying rich because of shopping trips =). Dubai has been a major business and tourist hub for the middle east and sub-continent for years, now everyone else is discovering that. Still, anyone see EK getting into the aircraft leasing business?

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Thu Feb 10, 2005 1:44 am

As many others have said, Dubai (and much of the UAE) are almost completely out of oil. The development explosion we've seen in the last decade is Dubai's way of repositioning its economy away from oil and towards commerce and tourism. Very impressive and pragmatic, if you ask me.

Nice to see all the usual thinly-veiled jealousy and lobbing of rhetoric from my fellow Americans. Never in a million years could we build anything this impressive or ambitious. Hell, we'd spend twenty years writing an Environmental Impact Statement, or making sure we had the proper percentage of minority-owned businesses designing the color scheme for the project website.  Big grin

I'm not clear how the Jebel Ali airport ties in with the existing facility at DXB, however. DXB is undergoing a huge expansion as we speak that's scheduled to open between 2006 and 2008. It'll triple the terminal's capacity and includes an entire concourse just for Emirates' A380 fleet.

I was under the impression Jebel Ali was going to serve as a cargo airport initially, and that 20 years from now, when DXB has reached capacity, it would become the passenger airport for the region. Have those plans changed? I'm hoping BA or one of the other enlightened A.netters from the Middle East can fill me in.
 
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Thu Feb 10, 2005 1:47 am

Well one can argue that Dubai is doing everything of becoming Germany's new Mallorca! They are advertising a lot around here and the prices for a vacation there are not that much higher, either!
I would like to point something out that I had pointed out before, with all of these developements, I am guessing that EK is planning to drive the Asia - South America traffic through Dubai. It might be a little farther (about 900 miles or so if flying from GRU , to NRT via LAX and not , but the service will be WAY better. People will be treated as guests and customers and not as villains, like they are treated in the US. And a stop-over in DUB sure allows some nice shopping!

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Thu Feb 10, 2005 1:49 am

Dubai expect that they will have all those A380 services, they can keep dreaming.

And other airports can dream even more…  Wink/being sarcastic


Now we really know why oil prices are as high as they are. Stupid sand traps like this being built a million miles from no where.

What an “intelligent” comment…  Laugh out loud
Sorry, but that was the ultimate proof that you not only know nothing about Dubai, but also could decide for “Ignorance” as your third name…  Yeah sure


Makes me think of... Babylon... Scary.

That was next door, in Iraq, a place which IS scary even today…


If you look at and the earth globe , its quite a detour through dubai

Better try to get a new globe then, yours must be damaged…  Wink/being sarcastic


Guys, let get serious here. Dubai exists because of oil, and if they can afford an airport with 370 gates for A380 in the middle of the desert, to support just one city, obviously they are making way to much money on that oil.

First of all, their oil is almost out. Second, they once made much money from oil because cool guys some thousands miles away have loved to drive oversized trucks in order to pick up a meal some 300 feet away from home at McDonald’s…
It’s OUR WESTERN WORLD style of living which makes and has made these countries rich – don’t like it, don’t drive! Simple as that! I can’t hear that st**** whining any longer!  Angry


Gas is expensive because Every American needs 5.0L V8 Gas guzzling American SUV and the fact that Indian and Chinese economies with 1.0billion+ population booming.....

Exactly.


The Arabs and everyother region in the world is simply profiting heavily from it....Simple Supply and Demand...I don't here you complaining about the Albertans profiting from it.

Supply and demand – simple market rules. Don’t the capitalists in here get it?  Confused



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Thu Feb 10, 2005 1:51 am

The was I read the article the new airport would have 370 gates, all capable of hadneling an A380, they don't expect 370 A380s at once. I doubt we'll ever see more than 50 A380s at a single airport. How many 747s are at HKG or NRT at once?

I'm American, and although Dubai is quite far I would love to go. One of my buddies is from UAE and he says it is great, very modern and liberal for an Arab state.

I think we should avoid all the oil talk and Bush bashing and stick to aviation.
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Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:17 am

You guys that are comparing DXB's hub operation to NYC, ORD or ATL don't get it.

Those cities hubs work much say, LHR, or CDG.

DXB works like singapore. What is the difference? The flights are primarily all long range, where as places like ATL and CDG are dominated by short-haul, 737 type flights. Which means what?

It means that the aircraft all have to come in at once to hub, and that typically can happen maybe just once, twice or three times a day. You see it in Singapore every night. All of the Qantas, British Airways and SIA 747s dominate the place, between about 9pm and midnight, the leave from everwhere from Auckland and Brisbane, to Capetown and Frankfurt. SO Petazulu and friends.... THAT is why DXB needs all those gates and NYC or ATL doesn't. IT is a different business model entirely.

Now a bit about Emirates.
Here's what I think. Emirates are going to run a lot of the others out of the market, and they'll be able to do so by the Economies of scale the A380 is going to give them. They'll simply use this aircraft to undercut everybody, and possibly even sustain losses or close to it for a while, to place heat on other carriers to reduce their capacity on the routes.

The singapore government certainly is worried about DXB overtaking them as a hub, so it is a real possibility that is what they're thinking too. It's actually faster to fly through Siberia than the middle east, something that wasn't possible until the 1990s... (from Singapore up through india into russia, up near moscow and then down to FRA or LHR). However, given they no doubt get both very good tax conditions, and, very cheap oil, they should still be able to make this work and its not that much longer.... a tad but we may be talking another 45 mins flying time and out of 22hrs flighing, (EU to Aust) it's not such a big deal. Anyway, this is what I reckon they're up to, and why.

I think it also explains why you currently see a 773 and an A340 serving DXB from melbourne everyday! That's already A380 capacity daily!!!!!



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Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:26 am

Since everyone is always making up statistics on this website, let's actually source some of our statements. Here is all of the information you could possibly want about the UAE's oil and gas industries.

http://www.uae.gov.ae/Government/oil_gas.htm

Dubai isn't out of oil, that is an absurd statement. They aren't almost out of oil either. They are, however, planning for a future when oil revenue can no longer fund their government or private sector.

Dubai has done a brilliant job planning for the future.....economically. Now if we could follow that up with some political reform, that would be marvelous. All the signs from Dubai seem positive, and I hope it continues to develop economically and politically. It is a model for other middle-eastern cities.
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Dubai To Build New Mega-Airport For 370 A380

Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:28 am

Their marketing is also a model for other cities, countries and airlines as well. Even here in the US, Dubai and Emirates are making a lot of positive noise!
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nycflyer
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Dubai To Build New Mega-Airport For 370 A380

Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:28 am

I don't here you complaining about the Albertans profiting from [oil].

that's because Alberta is not a corrupt, single-resource entity, that's using oil wealth to fund questionable Islamic groups and as an excuse to postpone any real political or economic or social reform, all of which are badly needed in oil-rich Middle Eastern countries. So yes, it is a concern when places like Saudi Arabia profit from oil and from nothing else.


Back to the topic: are BA and QF increasing codeshare services to DXB to compete with EK's growing strength in the Britain-Australia market?
 
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Dubai To Build New Mega-Airport For 370 A380

Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:29 am

What an “intelligent” comment…
Sorry, but that was the ultimate proof that you not only know nothing about Dubai, but also could decide for “Ignorance” as your third name…


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airbazar
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Dubai To Build New Mega-Airport For 370 A380

Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:38 am

As far as the route between Europe and Oz, you're forgetting another detail that may or may not be important. When you go via SIN you must fly over a bunch of countries on more or less congested flight paths and pay overflight fees. When you go via DXB you fly over water on non-congested paths and pay nothing.
 
petazulu
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Dubai To Build New Mega-Airport For 370 A380

Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:07 am

Just a thought, could those routes to/from Europe and Asia possibly fill up the number of planes we are talking about? I am not jealous or anything whatsoever! I am trying to see how this will all happen. To see an Arab country making real attempts towards sustainable economic growth is something to be applauded. I just think it sounds a bit ambitious.

Of course, areas like Phoenix, AZ and Las Vegas show that people will flock to warm weather and sand. I believe the biggest airports in the world all have less than 200 gates. 300+? Maybe in 50 years that might be necessary.

It just seems like Dubai is jumping from step 1 to step 100 very quickly. There are so many variables between now and them that may impact aviation. A few:

Geo-political order
Smaller, point-to-point NS
Supersonic travel
Sub orbital travel
Long range planes (IE London-Sydney direct)
Internal stability
Alternate fuel sources
Myriad of alternative airports to Dubai

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