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DeLorean Dead @ 80

Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:24 am

NEWARK, N.J. -- John Z. DeLorean, the innovative automaker who left a promising career in Detroit to develop the stainless steel-skinned, gull-winged sports car bearing his name and was acquitted of charges he planned to sell $24 million worth of cocaine to support the venture, has died at the age of 80.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/nation...category=1110&slug=Obit%20DeLorean
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RE: DeLorean Dead @ 80

Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:25 am

Will they bury him in a stainless coffin with gull-wing doors?

He was an innovator and visionary who went wrong in his quest to bring something different to the market.

The car was cool.
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RE: DeLorean Dead @ 80

Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:34 am

So...never found out what would happen if he made it to 88? Big grin
 
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RE: DeLorean Dead @ 80

Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:14 am

Quoting Backfire (Reply 2):
So...never found out what would happen if he made it to 88?

That's almost funny. I'd love to drive a DeLorean. I'd also love to check under the hood.

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RE: DeLorean Dead @ 80

Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:18 am

No Delorean is complete without the Flux Capacitor option

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RE: DeLorean Dead @ 80

Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:19 am

Quoting Allstarflyer (Reply 3):

That's almost funny. I'd love to drive a DeLorean. I'd also love to check under the hood.

Nothing special, it's just a Renault engine.
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RE: DeLorean Dead @ 80

Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:27 am

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 5):
Nothing special, it's just a Renault engine.

I was wondering what kind of engine I could fit under the hood. And, I'm not sure, but were DeLorean's built mainly with manual transmissions, or with option for either?

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RE: DeLorean Dead @ 80

Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:29 am

How odd - I just saw a DeLorean zoom by while I was having a cup of coffee today.

I had a neighbor who had one. Daily driver, too.

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RE: DeLorean Dead @ 80

Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:52 am

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RE: DeLorean Dead @ 80

Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:38 pm

Besides the car with his name, DeLorean was a big time executive for General Motors. He revitalized the Pontaic nameplate in the late 1950's, leading to the 'wide-track Pontaic' and more exciting models including the GTO. He was also involved with the Chevrolet brand in the late 1960's to mid-1970's.
As some of you may know, DeLorean had his famous (infamous?) car assembled in Northern Ireland, UK. He chose there due to substantial subsides from the UK government (whom would get screwed for over $80 Million USD) to help reduce unemployment. One important side effect of his plant was he didn't discriminate against Catholics and people of both Catholic and Prostestant faiths working together. The car had serious flaws, including poor preformance, overheating and workmanship problems.
Many famous people invested in the company as well as many dealerships (I recall one in my hometown in New Jersey).
He lived in a very expensive area of New Jersey since the 1970's, although he had lived a very downscaled life with all of the financial scandal he spawned.
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RE: DeLorean Dead @ 80

Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:20 pm

Hmmm, Delorean's do not have Renault engines, they have Volvo PVR-V6 engines with Lambda Sond engine management. The engines can be serviced at any Volvo specialist, or taken to the heir of Delorean. www.delorean.com
 
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RE: DeLorean Dead @ 80

Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:52 pm

I heard that while they looked fast, they weren't exactly high-performance.
 
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RE: DeLorean Dead @ 80

Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:20 am

Just read that AP article/obit published in today's papers.

It contained a few particulars I did not know. A DMC originally cost $33,000 – that was a bucket of money in the early 80’s (still is, but less so today). John DeLorean was credited with pioneering the muscle car by dropping a V-8 into a Tempest and calling it a GTO.

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RE: DeLorean Dead @ 80

Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:51 am

Quoting Afay1 (Reply 10):
Hmmm, Delorean's do not have Renault engines

Q: What's the engine?
A: It's a Peugeot Renault Volvo V6 (PRV-6) 2849cc Bosch K-Jet fuel injected SOHC 90 degree V6.

from
http://www.delorean.co.uk/DMUK/myths.html

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RE: DeLorean Dead @ 80

Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:53 am

I wouldn't necessarily call him an innovative designer. After all the DeLorean was one of the ugliest cars known to man.
 
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RE: DeLorean Dead @ 80

Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:57 am

Quoting Airlinerfreak (Reply 14):
I wouldn't necessarily call him an innovative designer. After all the DeLorean was one of the ugliest cars known to man.

Maybe you think it's ugly. I personally think it's an interesting car. True, the flux capacitator version was much nicer.  Smile
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RE: DeLorean Dead @ 80

Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:58 am

I do think it is ugly but I did not say it was interesting. I think it is a cool car, but it is still ugly.
 
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RE: DeLorean Dead @ 80

Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:03 am

No, it wasn't ugly. It was amazing looking, particularly at a time when cars in general had become very boxy. Too bad the DeLorean experiment ultimately imploded, because it added much-needed excitement to the auto industry at the time.
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Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:10 am

 
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RE: DeLorean Dead @ 80

Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:34 am

I sat in a new one, way back yonder, and was amazed at how badly it was screwed together.

John Z, was truly a maverick. Too bad the ill fated sports car will probably be his epitaph for the general public.
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RE: DeLorean Dead @ 80

Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:07 am

dead of a heart attack.

Same thing that killed Colin Chapman, prob. due to the stress of the whole DeLorean affair...
 
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RE: DeLorean Dead @ 80

Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:10 am

I actually thought DeLorean was a fictitious car made used for Back to the future !!!!
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RE: DeLorean Dead @ 80

Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:33 am

Quoting RootsAir (Reply 21):
I actually thought DeLorean was a fictitious car made used for Back to the future !!!!

Nope, there were some street models of the DeLorean sold as well.
http://www.ryanwright.com/delorean/ext13.jpg

Back when they first came out, I remember seeing a couple of them in my hometown.

I recall (not sure if it's 100% true) that John DeLorean originally wanted the car to be priced close to the Camaro and Mustang range (which was then, about $9000-$15,000) but dealers were charging $25,000-$30,000 for these coupes. While the car had unique styling, its sales downfall was due to the fact that it had mediocre acceleration and fuel economy; especially at its high selling price.

In other words, it lacked the performance of a muscle car as well as not achieving the fuel economy of many then-modern sporty cars. Keep in mind, in '81 & '82; the U.S. was still in an economic recession and the gas prices had not yet tumbled down like they would later on; so expensive sporty cars would not find too many buyers.
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RE: DeLorean Dead @ 80

Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:40 am

The US was also in the middle of a horrible winter when the car was released, and the early models suffered from terrible QC, and had to be reworked here in the states once they arrived.
 
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RE: DeLorean Dead @ 80

Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:19 am

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 23):
The US was also in the middle of a horrible winter when the car was released

Not to mention the economy was sluggish, still. Plus he'd had to establish a dealer network for the vehicle.

I remember the one nearest me was a Buick dealership in SW Houston. They had a couple of the regular cars, and two that had been "painted". One was a deep blue and the other, red. I would assume getting paint to stick was a bitch. The car looked totally different, with a paint job.

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 22):
I recall (not sure if it's 100% true) that John DeLorean originally wanted the car to be priced close to the Camaro and Mustang range

He'd been bantering the car around for a while. I remember seeing articles in main stream car mags for a few years before the car even appeared.
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