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Happenings In Lebanon

Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:57 am

http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/22818.htm

March 31, 2005 -- SYRIA'S troops are going home. Before Lebanon's spring elections. Damascus made the promise in writing. To the United Nations.
The question now is: How much damage does Syria intend to do on the way out?

While a commitment from Damascus to the U.N. has a whiff of a pimp's promise to a hooker, international pressure will force the Syrians to honor their word. The problem lies in what the agreement omits. Getting the 12,000 or so remaining Syrian troops out of Lebanon certainly matters. But ridding the country of Bashar Assad's 5,000-plus intelligence operatives is what really counts. And Damascus has been coy about their removal.

Syrian intel operatives were behind the assassination of Lebanon's former prime minister, Rafik Hariri. Even if they worked through Hezbollah or contract killers, Syrian agents doubtless sponsored the recent terror bombings in Christian enclaves, as well.
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RE: Happenings In Lebanon

Sat Apr 02, 2005 2:16 am

There is plenty of speculation in some people's eyes that the Assassination was an Mossad affair....as most people believe it would be difficult for the syrians to carry out such a massive attack...... many speculate / have evidence that the bomb was actually planted underground as the crater was so large and the explosion so powerful.

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RE: Happenings In Lebanon

Sat Apr 02, 2005 2:23 am

Quoting RJpieces (Thread starter):
Syrian intel operatives were behind the assassination of Lebanon's former prime minister, Rafik Hariri. Even if they worked through Hezbollah or contract killers, Syrian agents doubtless sponsored the recent terror bombings in Christian enclaves, as well.

Theres nothing assuring that it was the Syrians, and it can just as equally be the Mossad and the US at work. The Mossad have a very strong interest in seeing Hizbollah disarm (which I believe should happen) and from Lebanon destabilizing, and that is the security on all four borders - Lebanon because Hezbollah is gone, Syria because they are probably the next to be "liberated", and Jordan & Egypt due to their peace treaty.

I think this is pointing towards the Israelis much more than the Syrians.
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RE: Happenings In Lebanon

Sat Apr 02, 2005 2:28 am

Of course it was the Israelis, just like Israel was responsible for 9/11, the assassinations of JFK/Princess Diana, the tsunami, Columbine massacre and Chernobyl......

Honestly, some people are just obsessed! No wonder the Israelis have to be so paranoid about their own security - all of their neighbours blame them for everything that goes wrong in the world!
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RE: Happenings In Lebanon

Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:20 am

Quoting QR332 (Reply 2):
Theres nothing assuring that it was the Syrians, and it can just as equally be the Mossad and the US at work. The Mossad have a very strong interest in seeing Hizbollah disarm (which I believe should happen) and from Lebanon destabilizing, and that is the security on all four borders - Lebanon because Hezbollah is gone, Syria because they are probably the next to be "liberated", and Jordan & Egypt due to their peace treaty.

I think this is pointing towards the Israelis much more than the Syrians.

QR332 - I usually agree with many of your postings, but I have to say your Israel theory is a load of b.s. That's as bad a conspiracy theory as any I've heard in the Middle East, land of conspiracy theories. Israel's bigger enemy is Syria, and they want the Syrians out of Lebanon as much as anyone. They liked Hariri a great deal. There is no chance they were behind the assassination, and when you consider that Bashar actually threatened Hariri not long ago, how can you possibly say that "this is pointing towards Israel more than Syria."
 
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RE: Happenings In Lebanon

Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:41 am

Simply amazing!!!!! In all honesty, I am simply blown away that the first two responses in this thread are Arabs accusing Israel of killing him!
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RE: Happenings In Lebanon

Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:04 am

Quoting RJpieces (Thread starter):

Syrian intel operatives were behind the assassination of Lebanon's former prime minister

Who says so ?
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RE: Happenings In Lebanon

Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:10 am

Who says so ?

Among others, Bill Clinton.

Any idea when Lebanon will announce the results of their investigation (We still haven't heard why Arafat died....)?
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RE: Happenings In Lebanon

Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:18 am

Here are some quotes from the report of the UN fact finding mission:

UNITED NATIONS, March 24 -- Syrian President Bashar Assad threatened former Lebanese prime minister Rafiq Hariri with "physical harm" last summer if Hariri challenged Assad's dominance over Lebanese political life, contributing to a climate of violence that led to the Feb. 14 slayings of Hariri and 19 others, according to testimony in a report released Thursday by a U.N. fact-finding team.

The report, which calls for an international investigation into Hariri's death, describes an August meeting in Damascus at which Assad ordered the Lebanese billionaire to support amending Lebanon's constitution, according to testimony from "various" sources who discussed the meeting with Hariri. The amendment, approved Sept. 3, allowed Emile Lahoud, the Syrian-backed Lebanese president, to remain in office for three more years.

Assad said that "Lahoud should be viewed as his personal representative" in Lebanon and that "opposing him is tantamount to opposing Assad himself," the report states. Assad then warned that he "would rather break Lebanon over the heads of" Hariri and influential Druze political leader Walid Jumblatt "than see his word in Lebanon broken."




If Syria was not behind the assassination then someone took good advantage of their stupidity. They deserve all the insult. They brought this to themselves.
 
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RE: Happenings In Lebanon

Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:22 am

Quoting NYCFlyer (Reply 4):

QR332 - I usually agree with many of your postings, but I have to say your Israel theory is a load of b.s. That's as bad a conspiracy theory as any I've heard in the Middle East, land of conspiracy theories. Israel's bigger enemy is Syria, and they want the Syrians out of Lebanon as much as anyone. They liked Hariri a great deal. There is no chance they were behind the assassination, and when you consider that Bashar actually threatened Hariri not long ago, how can you possibly say that "this is pointing towards Israel more than Syria."

NYC, I am not saying it is definatley the Israelis, I am saying that they also benifit from this. I don't believe they were behind Harriri's assassins, but I believe they could have something to do with the bombings going on in Beirut. Israel does have quite a bit to gain from this, and that is something nobody can deny. I agree that Syria is probably behind Harriri's assassination, but I don't think Syria has been responsible for all the bombings going on.

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 5):
Simply amazing!!!!! In all honesty, I am simply blown away that the first two responses in this thread are Arabs accusing Israel of killing him!

Again, I never said they killed him, I said they probably have something to do with the current bombings: i.e. they are taking advantage of the situation.

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 7):
Among others, Bill Clinton.

Did Bill Clinton perform some investigation into the assassination that we all don't know about? And again, I do not deny that Syria was probably behind the assassination, you are talking about something completley different than me.

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 7):
Any idea when Lebanon will announce the results of their investigation (We still haven't heard why Arafat died....)?

Lebanon will not announce anything about the assassination with it's current government, which is pro-Syrian.

You have all misunderstood my post: I do believe that Syria is behind Harirri's death, but at the same time, I believe Israel is taking advantage of the situation. I should have been more specific in my quote by quoting this:

Quoting RJpieces (Thread starter):
Even if they worked through Hezbollah or contract killers, Syrian agents doubtless sponsored the recent terror bombings in Christian enclaves, as well.

One last thing - Hezbollah, who have fought so hard to free Lebanon of Israel, are going to sit there blowing up things knowing that it could lead to another disastarous civil war? I don't think so...
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RE: Happenings In Lebanon

Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:43 am

Demagogy 101, lesson 1, rule #1: Blame it on Mossad!
 
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RE: Happenings In Lebanon

Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:44 am

Quoting AA777 (Reply 1):
There is plenty of speculation in some people's eyes that the Assassination was an Mossad affair

Gee, what a shocker?

Quoting AA777 (Reply 1):
as most people believe it would be difficult for the syrians to carry out such a massive attack.

Of course not. Assad would never want to kill a champion of the opposition.

Quoting L410Turbolet (Reply 10):
lesson 1, rule #1: Blame it on Mossad!

Pretty much the protocol nowadays. checkmark 
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RE: Happenings In Lebanon

Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:01 pm

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 11):

Of course not. Assad would never want to kill a champion of the opposition.

And you think the US/ Sharon wouldnt want to Kill him either to incite anger against Syria..... thank about it.
 
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RE: Happenings In Lebanon

Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:19 pm

Quoting AA777 (Reply 12):
And you think the US/ Sharon wouldnt want to Kill him either to incite anger against Syria..... thank about it

You think about it. The anger against Syria has been because of their own interferance in the Lebanese politics and the people were fed up with it. This whole article is garbage. It's an OP-ED piece, which explains why it was written, to incite violence against Israel and the US gov't in the region.
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RE: Happenings In Lebanon

Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:53 pm

This whole article is garbage.

Which article are you talking about that incites violence against the US and Israel?
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