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Zarqawi Aide Arrested In Iraq Is American

Sat Apr 02, 2005 3:00 am

A man arrested in Iraq for being an aide to Al Qaeda terrorist leader Al Zarqawi has been discovered to be a naturalised American citizen:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...o_ca_st_pe/zarqawi_aide_captured_9

I wonder if they will get him for treason?

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RE: Zarqawi Aide Arrested In Iraq Is American

Sat Apr 02, 2005 3:04 am

Quoting MD11Engineer (Thread starter):
A man arrested in Iraq for being an aide to Al Qaeda terrorist leader Al Zarqawi has been discovered to be a naturalised American citizen:

Still a terrorist, still a threat, deserves no different treatment than any of the others. No sympathy. No quarter.

My question is, who has jurisdiction, the US or the Iraqi courts?
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RE: Zarqawi Aide Arrested In Iraq Is American

Sat Apr 02, 2005 3:10 am

CSM,

I just wonder if they would try him additionaly for high treason (like for example what happened to Joyce, "Lord Haw Haw", a British fascist who worked for the Germans in propaganda during WW2. He was hung for high treason after the war). After all, he has been taking part in endangering and killing American troops.
I don´t know what the federal punishment for high treason and cooperation with the enemy is, a US Army firing squad or the gallows?

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RE: Zarqawi Aide Arrested In Iraq Is American

Sat Apr 02, 2005 3:16 am

The federal courts still have the death penalty. But the gallows is out I'm sure. Firing Squad or Lethal Injection.

As for whether he'd be tried in a US Federal Court, or Military Court (I can't see that), or Iraqi court remains to be seen.

His crimes were against the US and it's allies, however, they took place on Iraqi soil - and since Iraq is (supposedly) self governing now - or at least has a government a court system - they might wish to retain authority to try him. Either way, he will be dealt justice.

I'm not sure there is a "Status of Forces Agreement" in place as there is similarly between the US and Germany. I recall being told when I was living there to ensure I had my "SOFA" card when I ventured into the countryside. Should something untoward occur, I was to present it to the German Authorities and it obligated them to notify the US military of my situation. They would then decide who had jurisdiction. Most often the offender was turned over to the military for minor offenses. Major crimes were left to the hands of the German people.

Personally, I think since the crimes occured on Iraqi soil, the Iraqi Courts have the first "right of refusal" on the issue.
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RE: Zarqawi Aide Arrested In Iraq Is American

Sat Apr 02, 2005 3:52 am

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
My question is, who has jurisdiction, the US or the Iraqi courts?

He had better hope it is a U.S. court. The Iraqis aren't going to treat foreign terrorists very well.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 3):
The federal courts still have the death penalty. But the gallows is out I'm sure. Firing Squad or Lethal Injection.

In the federal system as well as the military, lethal injection is the method of capital punishment.
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RE: Zarqawi Aide Arrested In Iraq Is American

Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:10 am

Quoting B757300 (Reply 4):
The Iraqis aren't going to treat foreign terrorists very well.

Unless of course you are a member of Mujahedin-e-Khalq and then the Iraqi government (forced to do so by the US) rolls out the welcome mat. Which is quite surprising, seeing as the MKO directly assisted Saddam with the Kurdish slaughter.

Anyway, to the topic, 'rule of law' should dictate that any charges be laid against him in Iraq, and for those charges to be heard in an Iraqi court.

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