sovietjet
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Speeding Ticket

Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:06 pm

Hey I just got a speeding ticket doing 60 on 45. I have a question for any of you guys that live in Illinois. I got another ticket about a month ago for crossing the yellow line a little bit on a left turn. I already signed up for traffic school for that. What can I do with this ticket? Is it possible for me to take that traffic school for both tickets? The policeman said I could but I don't know. What do you guys suggest I do? Does anyone here have a similar experience? I definetly don't want this on my record so I will do whatever it takes.
 
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RE: Speeding Ticket

Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:34 am

I would say that you must have been pretty far to the left of the yellow line if you got a ticket in Illinois - while driving in Bulgaria!
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RE: Speeding Ticket

Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:21 am

You can only do diversion once every three years I think...

Looks like you gotta eat this one, and watch those insurance rates climb.
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RE: Speeding Ticket

Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:55 pm

I have to admit that I have never had a ticket...other than a parking ticket! But I guess the only advise I can give you is to "slow down"....LOL

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RE: Speeding Ticket

Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:05 pm

Best advice I can give you is to buy a good radar/laser detector. I used to get speeding tickets all the time then I bought one in 1998 and since then I've only had one ticket, and that's because I didn't turn the thing on...  banghead 


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RE: Speeding Ticket

Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:14 pm

Best advice I can give is to slow down . . . .

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RE: Speeding Ticket

Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:14 pm

Adding to this, I just got a $90 ticket for doing a rolling stop can anyone who lives in Ontario tell me if this will give me demerit point or spike my insurance through the roof.
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RE: Speeding Ticket

Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:17 pm

Sovietjet, I believe that you can petition the judge for second chance traffic school. Basically what will happen is that you will appear in court in front of the judge and you will request second chance traffic school. Usually they will grant it and you would then have to attend 12 hours instead of 8 hours.

After you have completed that, you will still have 0 points on your driving record, but the insurance company will still know that you had had the offense. They usually do not increase your premiums if you have done second chance traffic school. If they do, just switch companies.
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willo
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RE: Speeding Ticket

Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:59 pm

Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 6):
for doing a rolling stop

?????

What is a "rolling stop" and why would you get a ticket? This isn't an offence I've heard of here in the UK.  Confused

Also is a ticket for a "stationary stop" a parking ticket?  Wink
 
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RE: Speeding Ticket

Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:02 pm

Quoting Willo (Reply 8):
What is a "rolling stop" and why would you get a ticket?

Means the guy slowed down for the stop sign but did not actually stop.

Got pulled over/stopped several times for this in Montreal, but each time the nice SPCUM officer or officerette let me off with a warning  Smile

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RE: Speeding Ticket

Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:13 pm

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Reply 9):
Means the guy slowed down for the stop sign but did not actually stop.

Right. In the UK you would be extrememly unlucky to get stopped for this offence. I suppose this will be the next type of traffic camera that we'll be having installed over here in the UK.

I commute about 25000 miles a year along some of the busiest roads in the south of England. I can't remember the last time I saw a traffic police car/man on my journey, it certainly hasn't been so far this year. There is more and more reliance on camera's at the expense of Officers out on the beat.

Cameras don't pull over the cars with defective lights, the drivers on their mobile (worse than ever since it became illegal), the tax and insurance dodgers. They have no discretion to give a warning. The only thing the authorities seem interested in is speeding, as that is a huge cash cow.

Thereby hangs another tale. If you do happen to get caught you are stung with a double-whammy. Firstly, the fine and points on the license and secondly, inflated insurance premiums for the next five years. I am not condoning speeding, but do think it grossly unfair that generally law abiding drivers, often with long unblemished records, effectively get sentenced twice for a very small transgression. To me the whole thing smacks of profiteering by both the Government and the Insurance companies and has little or nothing to do with improving road safety.
 
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RE: Speeding Ticket

Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:22 pm

Quoting Willo (Reply 10):
Thereby hangs another tale. If you do happen to get caught you are stung with a double-whammy. Firstly, the fine and points on the license and secondly, inflated insurance premiums for the next five years. I am not condoning speeding, but do think it grossly unfair that generally law abiding drivers, often with long unblemished records, effectively get sentenced twice for a very small transgression. To me the whole thing smacks of profiteering by both the Government and the Insurance companies and has little or nothing to do with improving road safety.

Completely agree with you on this one Willo. I'm all for having cameras in accident blackspots or outside schools and the like, but to have them on perfectly decent roads (like the M4 into London) for example, is ridiculous. Some are justified, but some are clearly placed for maximum revenue earning potential. It certainly doesn't help that forces can use the prfits to invest in more cameras.

Like you I commute daily on roads in the South East - I never see a police traffic car or bike, except when they are inforcing speed traps. Yet I see some appalling drving every day which just gets ignored.

I shudder to think what it will be like when these new cameras that measure your speed over a distance become more widespread.
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RE: Speeding Ticket

Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:38 pm

Speed doesn't kill.

SpeedING kills.

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RE: Speeding Ticket

Wed Apr 06, 2005 6:09 pm

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Reply 12):
Speed doesn't kill.

SpeedING kills

Thats not true, speeding doesn't kill...it's the sudden stop with the telephone pole that does!

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RE: Speeding Ticket

Wed Apr 06, 2005 6:11 pm

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 13):
it's the sudden stop with the telephone pole that does!

Pole, guardrail, billboard, etc...

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RE: Speeding Ticket

Thu Apr 07, 2005 1:01 am

Quoting Willo (Reply 8):
What is a "rolling stop" and why would you get a ticket? This isn't an offence I've heard of here in the UK

It's essentially slowing down at a stopsign enough to know that not stopping completely would not put anyone in danger and cops sometimes camp out in intersections to see if they can bust you for it. It's mostly a money grab because most sensible drivers stop if there are other cars around. I'm pretty sure this would be an offense in the UK because it is essentially failing to stop at a stop sign.
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sovietjet
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RE: Speeding Ticket

Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:43 am

Well I have decided I would go to court. I have no other choice. I'm taking a 4 hour traffic school for my previous ticket which was complete bullsh*t. My previous ticket was because on a left turn my rear tire went over the yellow line a little bit. The cop told me that the 2 people in front of me did it but I was the most closest to him. In any case my speeding ticket I was driving with traffic and I got pulled over again out of everyone else. I think it's because of my car. Maybe a cop would rather pull over my WRX than a rusting civic but that's just unfair. I've also gotten a ticket for rolling stop and another ticket for no seat belt. I'm totally pro seat belts and wear one every time i drive except that I was driving from my friends house which is literally 100 meters away from mine and the cop just happened to see me because he was there and I was doing no more than 20mph because of the close distance so he got a good look. Also at the time I had just gotten my car and my insurance proof card had not come yet but my car was insured. Well when he asked for insurance I couldn't show him anything so i got a ticket for that. 2 tickets in one day 3 days after I got the car. I paid the seat belt one and proved them wrong on the insurance one in court later. Here's the real sucker....I got pulled over literally in my own driveway and my insurance card was in the mailbox.....I had forgotten to check the mail before I went out that day....
 
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RE: Speeding Ticket

Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:57 pm

Here in southern Arizona, the police are quite strict concerning moving violations. While on break at work one night, some of us were standing outside the main door of the courthouse and saw Tucson Police out with a couple of kids who had been stopped because their truck's license tag was not fully visable (they had it in the rear window and not on the rear bumper). I don't know if the officer wrote them up on that but they did make the kids put the tag on the bumper (and watched them do it). Realistically speaking, most of the time the stops are made on minor violations because the officer has seen the driver make other moves that lead them to belive that the driver might be impaired or an instant offense, such as failing to stop at a stop sign. That said, moving violations are generally instant offenses which do not require that the officer prove intent on the part of the violator. Knowing how many DUI cases go through our court, I have no problem with the officers doing their job. Almost every night when I leave work, I see one or two Department of Public Safety officers engaged in traffic stops on the interstate, often no more than a mile apart.

Sounds like Illinois has some lenient laws concerning moving violations. Here, you only get one shot at Traffic Survival School per year for minor moving violations. However, if the officer suspects that the moving violations were due to aggressive driving, they'll cite you for that. Here a conviction on Aggressive Driving will assess 8 points on your driving record which is an automatic 6 month suspension. That's the same as DUI and in Arizona, there is no such thing as a Hardship provision. If your license is suspended, your driving privilages are revoked entirely and the judge CANNOT make any exceptions, such as restricting the person to only driving to and from work. As for my insurance card, I always keep a current copy taped to the driver's visor. That way, whomever is driving the vehicle has proof of its insurance should it ever be needed.
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RE: Speeding Ticket

Sun Apr 17, 2005 4:34 am

to StarAC17


If convicted you will receive three demerit points on your licence. As to insurance going through the roof.... depends on your insurance company but don't be surprised if there is an increase.

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RE: Speeding Ticket

Sun Apr 17, 2005 4:47 am

Hi there Sovietjet.

I live in Schaumburg (Cook County) and I had the exact same situation as you.

Heres the deal.

You can take 2 traffic schools in one year.

You actually did NOT need to go to court for your speeding ticket. Simply, you go to traffic school for 8 hours for the 2nd ticket (trust me i dont it and its not bad) Heres the deal, you CANNOT get a third ticket or else your license will be suspended.

BTW dude, I dont know whats your circuit court (Mines on Euclid Avenue) so when you go over there tell the judge to just put you in a 8 hour class and the ticket will be wipped from your record.

Trust me on this because I went through this and done it.

Make sure you realize no matter what on your first ticket your on court supervision for the next 3 months, and if you get another ticket in those 3 months (Like I did and you did) you either take the 8 hour class or your going guilty. Theres no way of the judge putting you on another supervision and throwing the tickets out (which most likely you need a lawyer to do also)

And just do dispell some rumors, There is no 12 hour school in Illinois (At least not in Cook county), just 4 and 8 hours.

Feel free email me (in my profile) if you have questions...After 6 tickets in 3 years I know the system all too well.

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