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How Many Of You Will Not Watch Pope Idol Today?

Fri Apr 08, 2005 10:09 pm

Since Pope lovers have already 3 threads in which they rave all about the ceremony and everything, we obviously need a counterweight.

I for one will steer well clear of TV, radio and other media for the next few days.

Others ?

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RE: How Many Of You Will Not Watch Pope Idol Today?

Fri Apr 08, 2005 10:53 pm

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Thread starter):
for one will steer well clear of TV, radio and other media for the next few days.

Will you even stay away from your favourite gay porn channels?
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RE: How Many Of You Will Not Watch Pope Idol Today?

Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:00 pm

Quoting DIJKKIJK (Reply 1):
Will you even stay away from your favourite gay porn channels?

Of course as I have quite a lot of female porn on my computer's hard drive  Wink

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RE: How Many Of You Will Not Watch Pope Idol Today?

Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:20 pm

I don't want to see any Pope funeral or Royal Wedding thank you. I shall be avoiding the TV like the plague - not that I watch a lot in any case.

Worldwide TV is one of the great plagues of our time sometimes. Too much of something tends to get monotonous and boring.

I'll stick the the snappy, witty and charming members of A.net who run a constant well informed, friendly site. Well, I'll stick to A.net anyway!!!!!!!!

Have a nice couple of days

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RE: How Many Of You Will Not Watch Pope Idol Today?

Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:35 pm

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Thread starter):
I for one will steer well clear of TV, radio and other media for the next few days

Me too!
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RE: How Many Of You Will Not Watch Pope Idol Today?

Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:48 pm

I didn't watch the video or listen to audio coverage...but it's impossible to miss reading on the web...
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RE: How Many Of You Will Not Watch Pope Idol Today?

Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:52 pm

Come on. Have some respect for the Pope.
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RE: How Many Of You Will Not Watch Pope Idol Today?

Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:55 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 6):
Come on. Have some respect for the Pope.

Exactly. I'm an atheist yet I still respect the man. He was a major humanist and contributed a lot for inter-religious relations, thus bringing people closer to one another.
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Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:58 pm

Superfly, it has nothing to do with respect, more to do with overdosing on the situation.

The death and funeral have taken over the news and to be honest with you, I find it really OTT.

While not a Catholic I respect the pope as a good man and a leader of some repute. However, there is only so much I can take of the constant "news" reporting. Hours and hours of bugger all gets beyond a joke.

Same with the Royal Wedding. I am a Royalist, but I wish the Media would just piss off and leave them alone to get on with it.

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RE: How Many Of You Will Not Watch Pope Idol Today?

Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:01 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 6):
Come on. Have some respect for the Pope.

Why? Did the pope respect women or gays? What about the thousands of boys raped by priests? Where is the respect for them?
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Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:02 am

Skidmarks:
What you need to realize is that Pope John Paul II was the world's most influential person. His funeral deserves all the attention.
It's certainly more important than all the other B.S. reality TV shows and other low brow entertainment that dominates the airways.

Once he is buried, things will be status quo.
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Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:04 am

Not for me, thanks. I'd rather devote that time towards a nap, or a few drinkies.

I did speak to my old secretary a little while ago though - a devout Catholic if ever there were one. Her opinion on the funeral itself? Disappointing. She expected better of the Church and hopes they take a page or two out of the Brits' book, because thay sure throw really good funerals.
 
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Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:07 am

Superfly, his funeral deserves attention, constant drivel on the amount of pilgrims, dissertations on who will be next and other such tripe do not.

And I would certainly dispute your claim that he was the worlds most influential person. Still, if thats your view, fine.

Have a nice day now

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RE: How Many Of You Will Not Watch Pope Idol Today?

Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:12 am

Note I did not criticize the man.

I am just fed up of all the media hype.

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RE: How Many Of You Will Not Watch Pope Idol Today?

Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:20 am

Quoting Yyz717 (Reply 9):
Why? Did the pope respect women or gays?

Perhaps people will remember him with respect because he was a man of peace, and who wanted peace more than anything else?

Just a thought...

Quoting Yyz717 (Reply 9):
What about the thousands of boys raped by priests? Where is the respect for them?

Let me get this straight, you are blaming the pope for these actions by other individuals?

Not all who rape boys are priests, and not all priests rape boys.

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RE: How Many Of You Will Not Watch Pope Idol Today?

Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:23 am

watched the end when mum told me the Greek part of the service commenced, couldn't give a fig about the rest of it!
 
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RE: How Many Of You Will Not Watch Pope Idol Today?

Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:25 am

Another person who has to let the world knows he is in the minority when it comes to how he feels for this noble man that has passed.

Can we find anyone else even more petty in their remarks?
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Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:31 am

Quoting Jasepl (Reply 11):
She expected better of the Church and hopes they take a page or two out of the Brits' book, because thay sure throw really good funerals.

It's royalty. We have to make absolutely certain they're not coming back.  Wink


On the Pope's funeral? Couldn't give a stuff. He's dead, there's nothing to see. I just don't have any interest in watching people eulogise a dead body. Do it when they're alive, then it might make a difference.
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RE: How Many Of You Will Not Watch Pope Idol Today?

Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:31 am

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 12):
constant drivel on the amount of pilgrims, dissertations on who will be next and other such tripe do not.

It is a big deal because you have people who are arch enemies coming together for his funeral. This IS a big deal.
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RE: How Many Of You Will Not Watch Pope Idol Today?

Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:36 am

Quoting Thom@s (Reply 14):
Quoting Yyz717 (Reply 9):
What about the thousands of boys raped by priests? Where is the respect for them?

Let me get this straight, you are blaming the pope for these actions by other individuals?

Indirectly, yes. The pope was CEO of the church. His vast organization (all of whom reported to him) covered up the vast rapes of altar boys. This pope did not take responsibility for nor did everything he could to bring the criminals to justice.

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 16):
Another person who has to let the world knows he is in the minority when it comes to how he feels for this noble man that has passed.

Can we find anyone else even more petty in their remarks?

A typically defensive catholic position. Ignore or white-wash the rapes and lash out at the person bringing the issue up. Just what the catholic church wants.
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RE: How Many Of You Will Not Watch Pope Idol Today?

Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:37 am

Quoting Banco (Reply 17):
It's royalty. We have to make absolutely certain they're not coming back.

LOL!

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On the Pope's funeral? Couldn't give a stuff. He's dead, there's nothing to see. I just don't have any interest in watching people eulogise a dead body. Do it when they're alive, then it might make a difference.

Hear hear. More often than not, I wouldn't care to hear or see some random stranger eulogised during their lifetime either.
 
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RE: How Many Of You Will Not Watch Pope Idol Today?

Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:06 am

Quoting Yyz717 (Reply 19):
A typically defensive catholic position. Ignore or white-wash the rapes and lash out at the person bringing the issue up. Just what the catholic church wants.

Nothing to do with being raised Catholic, Yyz. In fact, when I go to church now, I got a Lutheran church more often than not. It's not defensive, but it gets tired hearing malcontents who have to make sure you know THEY hated the pope, because he didn't stand for this or that view, even though he was emminently a better man than most those bitching about the coverage of his passing.

As I said earlier, the Holy Father had more grace and dignity in his little finger than some of you have in your whole being. And I've been proven right again.
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Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:17 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 21):
It's not defensive, but it gets tired hearing malcontents who have to make sure you know THEY hated the pope, because he didn't stand for this or that view,

Hmm. the only thing there is that I see little difference in those saying how much they hated the pope, and those saying that he was the most wonderful human being ever, and could do know wrong. He was human, and made mistakes or took decisions others could disagree with. I don't honestly see how you can castigate one side and not the other - unless I missed something and you have.
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RE: How Many Of You Will Not Watch Pope Idol Today?

Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:19 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 21):
As I said earlier, the Holy Father had more grace and dignity in his little finger than some of you have in your whole being.

Grace and dignity? Discriminating against gays & women. Advising the 3rd world not to use condoms. Presiding over an organization that condoned and covered up vast rapes.

There is little grace and dignity in any of these stances.
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RE: How Many Of You Will Not Watch Pope Idol Today?

Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:29 am

Quoting Banco (Reply 22):
Hmm. the only thing there is that I see little difference in those saying how much they hated the pope, and those saying that he was the most wonderful human being ever, and could do know wrong. He was human, and made mistakes or took decisions others could disagree with. I don't honestly see how you can castigate one side and not the other - unless I missed something and you have.

I don't often castigate those who think a man was a good man, and this man was. I haven't heard a soul, Banco, say he was perfect, and I have my own issues with the Church and some things the Holy Father believed, but unlike some, I can separate the fact I had differences with the man on one hand, but that I genuinely admired the Holy Father on the other, for the fact he was a man of peace and of justice, despite those full of spite on here saying the opposite about him.

And Yyz, there's nothing that says people HAVE to accept gay behaivior, or the gay lifestyle. That doesn't make one any less great or any less filled with dignity. It means they see the world different than you do. I for one, hope the Church does NOT change it's stance EVER on gay marriage, but that's for another time.

Again, you loathe him for that. I admire him for sticking to what he thought was right, instead of popularly expedient, to curry favor with a group with their own agenda.
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RE: How Many Of You Will Not Watch Pope Idol Today?

Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:38 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 24):
I don't often castigate those who think a man was a good man, and this man was. I haven't heard a soul, Banco, say he was perfect, and I have my own issues with the Church and some things the Holy Father believed, but unlike some, I can separate the fact I had differences with the man on one hand, but that I genuinely admired the Holy Father on the other, for the fact he was a man of peace and of justice, despite those full of spite on here saying the opposite about him.

Well, there are a couple of bits to separate here. Personally, I agree with you that he was a good man. Not agreeing with him is a separate matter.

However, as I understand it (correct me if I'm wrong) the Pope is meant to be God's representative on earth, and not be subject to those mistakes. That being the case, if a Catholic (or anyone, in any other context) refuses to accept the possibility of shortcomings, then surely that might be viewed as a fairly extreme position?

I'm a bit hesitant here, as I don't know the full in's and out's of it! But it seems to me that a few people have refused to acknowledge the strong criticisms that were levelled at the papacy, on the usual plethora of subjects. It is those, rather than the pope himself, that would seem to be equitable with those offering such strong criticism.
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RE: How Many Of You Will Not Watch Pope Idol Today?

Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:41 am

>Advising the 3rd world not to use condoms<

This is getting old. Whenever I meet someone, the last thing that occurs to me is finding out what their stance on the use of condoms is, and then passing judgement on that person based on their opinion.

But apparently to some of you that's one of, if not the most important issue when judging someone.

In any case, to all those who complain about the coverage the death and funeral of the Pope has been getting, don't you think that if the networks are doing it it's because, no matter how much you hate it, people are tuning in to watch it and the ratings are there?
 
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RE: How Many Of You Will Not Watch Pope Idol Today

Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:41 am

No, I won't watch it. I don't have a TV.
 
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Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:45 am

The Pope was, indeed, human, but that spectacle in St. Peters makes him out to be a God.

Putting his mortal remains on display for millions to view, all that pomp and pageantry, red velvet everywhere, etc., made it all seem like the death of a Pharaoh in antiquity.

There is something rather disturbing to watch the funeral of a man who took a vow of piety come off as something that Imelda Marcos or Leona Helmsley would have ordered for themselves.

I understand that for Catholics, the Pope's significance is enormous, but wouldn't a simple service have done?
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Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:08 am

He was just simply great! And He will be remembered as one of the greatest Popes in the CC History.
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Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:15 am

Quoting Lindy (Reply 27):

Lindy, amen to that! Well said my friend. Welcome to my RUL.
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Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:40 am

Quoting JoseMEX (Reply 26):
This is getting old. Whenever I meet someone, the last thing that occurs to me is finding out what their stance on the use of condoms is, and then passing judgement on that person based on their opinion.

But apparently to some of you that's one of, if not the most important issue when judging someone.

Jose, you totally miss the point here. No one judges people based on their condom opinions. However, the Pope is not just anyone! He is one of the most influential people in the world, and he ACTIVELY PREACHS against condoms. Overpopulation (not to mention AIDS) is one of the biggest social and environmental problems our world will face in the future (and already now), and many of us believe it is irresponsible of a person of the Pope's stature to belittle that problem by being so conservative on condom use. This has nothing to do with "whenever I meet someone, the last thing that occurs to me is finding out what their stance on condoms is," as you say. Apples and oranges.

Quoting Lindy (Reply 27):
Whats wrong with that??? He believed in LIFE. Tell me how many muslim people DO USE condoms?????????
Its against THEIR (muslim) religion, and nobody fu*@#$en say that on this forum. You just talk about christians.
This religion is not only one that discurages people from using birth control.

Lindy, no Muslim leader (to my knowledge) has stepped up and said "don't use condoms." If one did, I assure you there would be an equal backlash. This isn't a "bash the Christians" thing, this is taking the Pope to task on ignoring one of the biggest growing social problems in the lands where many of his followers live (Latin America, Africa), where overpopulation issues are severe. A lot of us find it selfish that the Pope would rather have the world overpopulated with Catholics than have population growth reduced to a more sustainable level.

Quoting Lindy (Reply 27):
And I have no respect at all to few losers (users) on this forum who disrespect dead person.

No one's disrespecting the Pope, people are disagreeing with him, big difference. In my opinion, not enough people (read: Catholics) challenged the Pope during his tenure. You need freedom of thought and a good debate, or else you have people blindly following a leader, which is a dangerous thing anywhere.

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Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:56 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 24):
And Yyz, there's nothing that says people HAVE to accept gay behaivior, or the gay lifestyle. That doesn't make one any less great or any less filled with dignity. It means they see the world different than you do. I for one, hope the Church does NOT change it's stance EVER on gay marriage, but that's for another time.

Again, you loathe him for that. I admire him for sticking to what he thought was right, instead of popularly expedient, to curry favor with a group with their own agenda.

I wonder if you will change your anti-gay stance if/when one of your kids announces that they are gay one day?
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Sat Apr 09, 2005 3:07 am

Quoting NYCFlyer (Reply 32):
No one's disrespecting the Pope, people are disagreeing with him, big difference. In my opinion, not enough people (read: Catholics) challenged the Pope during his tenure. You need freedom of thought and a good debate, or else you have people blindly following a leader, which is a dangerous thing anywhere.

True, most A.netter have been respectful. Lindy, I presume, was talking about the few who use the Pope's death as an excuse to insult the Church and its members.

Actually, you bring an important issue: artificial birth control. It'd be delusional to deny that this topic has divided the Catholic community for the last decades. I understand you position regarding condom, but you need to see it also in the Catholic perspective.

In the Catholic tradition, sex is considered as a wonderful gift from God, which is truly enjoyed and embraced in marriage. The union between a man and a woman in matrimony is fully perfect in a sexual relationship that includes love, complementation and openness to life.

Therefore, a condom or any other artificial birth control method is seen as a barrier to this third element: openness to life. It doesn't mean that a couple HAS to have as many children as possible; that's a huge misconception. It does mean that a couple can decide the size of its family (natural birth control) but always considering that life is also a gift from God to their union.

Regarding AIDS, I believe that condom is a lesser evil, and consequently its use by people in risk could be accepted in specific conditions. Yet, that's only my opinion and by no means I judge my Church based on this single issue.
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Sat Apr 09, 2005 4:11 am

"Pope Idol"

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Reply 13):
Note I did not criticize the man.

Ahh yeah....sure. We have your type pegged. Considering your minority stance, perhaps it is that realization that your stance is just that, a minor one. The funeral was the most watched funeral in the world. There is a reason for that. If you look at what the message was you will understand why.

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Thread starter):
Since Pope lovers have already 3 threads in which they rave all about the ceremony and everything, we obviously need a counterweight

Why a counterweight? Does it offend you? Seems it does. Pity.
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RE: How Many Of You Will Not Watch Pope Idol Today?

Sat Apr 09, 2005 5:17 am

What is this "TV" you speak of?

And what is a "Pope"?
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Sat Apr 09, 2005 5:30 am

In the Catholic tradition, sex is considered as a wonderful gift from God, which is truly enjoyed and embraced in marriage. The union between a man and a woman in matrimony is fully perfect in a sexual relationship that includes love, complementation and openness to life.

Please.

Most married people are either screwing someone other than their spouse, thinking of screwing someone other than their spouse, fantasizing about screwing someone other than their spouse as they go through the motions with their spouse, or haven't had sex in years.

I have no problems with the Catholic Church's stance on gay marriage. As a citizen of the United States, and not of the Vatican, I, however, oppose the instilling of Catholic (or any religious) liturgy in purely civil matters of the state.

I also have a serious problem with the flowery nonsense about marriage posted above.
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Sat Apr 09, 2005 6:06 am

Shouldn't that be "Pope Idle"?
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Sat Apr 09, 2005 6:48 am

Quoting Yyz717 (Reply 23):
Discriminating against gays & women. Advising the 3rd world not to use condoms. Presiding over an organization that condoned and covered up vast rapes.

Bla, bla, bla. Sounds like a broken record. Try not only to accuse, but give ARGUMENTS.
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Sat Apr 09, 2005 6:53 am

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RE: How Many Of You Will Not Watch Pope Idol Today?

Sat Apr 09, 2005 6:55 am

well for starts, everyone holds the right to decide on what they want to watch and what they don't want to. However, that doesn't give you the right to disrespect the Pope by calling his funeral "Pope Idol". The reason why it is all over TV is because of WHO LGW-Luftfahrtgesellschaft Walter (Germany)">HE WAS and WILL ALWAYS BE. Don't you people get that? Hate him ALL you want, he was the leader of 1.1 billion people......do you think his death would go unnoticed?...you would have to be naive to believe that. I don't care if you like him or my religion but you can still show respect. This has been a great time of mourning for all Catholics and I think it is a disgrace to have a couple of "haters" on here bashing the Pope and the religion. We are all still in mourning and you guys have showed NO RESPECT whatsoever. You all picked the wrong time to vent all your feuds and issues with the Pope and the Catholic religion. Religion is a very contraversial issue and I know not everyone agrees with certain religions but showing respect has NOTHING to do with that. I suppose asking for some of you to show respect is too much, only a certain kind of individual is capable of respecting others.
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Sat Apr 09, 2005 7:48 am

Noble? Puhleese. Do you people know that His Hypocriticness was more authoritarian than Putin could ever be? (I mention Putin because many on this site like to spout such rubbish).

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 38):
Bla, bla, bla. Sounds like a broken record. Try not only to accuse, but give ARGUMENTS.

OK, AIDS is an epidemic in Africa. And His Hyprociticness has a lot to answer to for this. He is not entirely to blame, but he must shoulder his fair share. The African branches of the Catholic Church are not self-sustaining. Meaning that, unlike their counterparts in the more developed world, their operations are funded directly by the Vatican. Therefore, local Catholic leaders were forced to tow the line of the extremist views of their leader in the Vatican. And who does the illiterate population get their information from?

And do we need to mention the direct support of His Hyprociticness for the Rwandan Catholic Bishops and Priests who were complicit in starting the Rwandan Genocide? This support for people who are guilty was unbelievable. And isn't it appropriate that he is buried around the same time that Rwandans remember the 11th anniversary of this genocide?

There are many reasons why I won't 'mourn' this guy, and hence wouldn't even think of watching any funeral.
 
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Sat Apr 09, 2005 8:30 am

Quoting AJBUS300 (Reply 40):
I don't care if you like him or my religion but you can still show respect. This has been a great time of mourning for all Catholics and I think it is a disgrace to have a couple of "haters" on here bashing the Pope and the religion. We are all still in mourning and you guys have showed NO RESPECT whatsoever.

Respect? Why should we respect a pope who did not respect women, gays or rape victims? Respect is a 2-way street.

Quoting AJBUS300 (Reply 40):
I suppose asking for some of you to show respect is too much, only a certain kind of individual is capable of respecting others.

We'll respect the pope (whichever virginal old man it happens to be) when he starts respecting women, gays and rape victims. Respect is a 2-way street.
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Sat Apr 09, 2005 8:38 am

Maybe some of you should just step back and remember the fact that people have there reasons for mourning or not mouning the pope, theres no rights or wrongs about it..
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RE: How Many Of You Will Not Watch Pope Idol Today?

Sat Apr 09, 2005 8:42 am

Quoting Pilot kaz (Reply 43):
Maybe some of you should just step back and remember the fact that people have there reasons for mourning or not mouning the pope, theres no rights or wrongs about it..

I don't think so. People are attacking the Pope and have been since he fell ill and that is just wrong. He can't defend himself so somebody has to. That is why I call on all fellow Catholics and Pope supporters to keep up the good work and don't let these haters tarnish our religion or the Great Pope John Paul II. What you are asking for is just impossible, it would be like stepping back and watching someone murder a loved one......no way in hell.
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RE: How Many Of You Will Not Watch Pope Idol Today?

Sat Apr 09, 2005 8:45 am

I stayed up and watched it, starting at 1AM on the west coast.

It was interesting from a historical perspective, and to see what people will do for their faith, and what gives them motivation.

I also thought it was interesting that the Vatican placed diplomats in order by the French name of their countries to avoid some rather awkward moments when it came time to "turn to your neighbor and share the peace."

If nothing else, it was a great people-watching event.
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RE: How Many Of You Will Not Watch Pope Idol Today?

Sat Apr 09, 2005 8:46 am

Quoting AJBUS300 (Reply 44):
I don't think so. People are attacking the Pope and have been since he fell ill and that is just wrong. He can't defend himself so somebody has to. That is why I call on all fellow Catholics and Pope supporters to keep up the good work and don't let these haters tarnish our religion or the Great Pope John Paul II. What you are asking for is just impossible, it would be like stepping back and watching someone murder a loved one......no way in hell.

Losing someone you only knew by religion who you didnt really know personally is a lot different to losing a loved one you did know personally.

Im sure everyone has there reason for the opinion and they are entitled to it.
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RE: How Many Of You Will Not Watch Pope Idol Today?

Sat Apr 09, 2005 8:54 am

Quoting Pilot kaz (Reply 46):
Losing someone you only knew by religion who you didnt really know personally is a lot different to losing a loved one you did know personally.

Maybe for you. I am a devoted Catholic and therefore, I take the loss of the Holy Father like the loss of a loved one. He was our leader and an extraordinary man.

You are right. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions BUT at the right time. People were on here bashing the Pope when he was on his death bed and it hasn't stopped. Come on, whatever happened to respect.
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RE: How Many Of You Will Not Watch Pope Idol Today?

Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:00 am

Quoting AJBUS300 (Reply 47):
People were on here bashing the Pope when he was on his death bed and it hasn't stopped.

They wouldn't do it for fun or a joke, they do it for a reason, there belief.

Quoting AJBUS300 (Reply 47):
Come on, whatever happened to respect.

I never met the guy, he never did anything for me, family or friends, he didn't change my life for good or bad and I never expected him to.

Why should I or anyone who feels the same way as me have respect? Any normal person who was ill would have not have had the treatment and attention to make them live longer...
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RE: How Many Of You Will Not Watch Pope Idol Today?

Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:04 am

Quoting Pilot kaz (Reply 48):
Any normal person who was ill would have not have had the treatment and attention to make them live longer...

The Holy Father wasn't just a "normal" person. He was the leader of 1.1 billion Catholics.
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