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Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 4:49 am

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7611755/

Frankly, since the whole Terri Schiavo case, the man has been going deeper and deeper off the edge. His attacks on Democrats as "people against faith" are upsetting. I fear he will be the next Tom Delay, and I hope to God that he does not become our president.

To me he represents a Republican Party drunk with their own power. Attempting to subvert old congressional rules and constantly pandering to their religious base, I am afraid at how much he, and others like him are attempting to blur the line between religion and politics.

So what do other people think of him?
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 4:51 am

Quoting Mdsh00 (Thread starter):
Frankly, since the whole Terri Schiavo case, the man has been going deeper and deeper off the edge. His attacks on Democrats as "people against faith" are upsetting. I fear he will be the next Tom Delay, and I hope to God that he does not become our president.

To me he represents a Republican Party drunk with their own power. Attempting to subvert old congressional rules and constantly pandering to their religious base, I am afraid at how much he, and others like him are attempting to blur the line between religion and politics.

So what do other people think of him?

Overall, I think he is a good guy. Sure, he said some stupis stuff, but doesn't everyone? I don't think he will become the president, because he lacks charisma.
 
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 4:57 am

In one word: Jackass.
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 4:59 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 2):
In one word: Jackass.

And for what conservative would you not say that? Wink
 
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 5:19 am

Quoting BRAVO7E7 (Reply 3):
And for what conservative would you not say that?

ANYONE of them that doesn't shove the bible and morality down your throat at every turn, while forgetting that they are the most un-ethical pieces of $hit on the planet (Democrats too).
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 5:25 am

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 4):
ANYONE of them that doesn't shove the bible and morality down your throat at every turn, while forgetting that they are the most un-ethical pieces of $hit on the planet (Democrats too).

Maybe I was not clear enough. If you notice the quote of Falcon which I was replying to, you should clearly be able to infer that the question is directed to him.
 
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 5:35 am

Quoting BRAVO7E7 (Reply 5):
Maybe I was not clear enough. If you notice the quote of Falcon which I was replying to, you should clearly be able to infer that the question is directed to him.

Sooooo let me get this straight.......you post a question personally directed at another user (vaguely, and publicly in the forum) and you have a problem with someone offering their opinion because of what??! I thought this forum was all about opinions or did I miss something?
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 5:40 am

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 6):

Sooooo let me get this straight.......you post a question personally directed at another user (vaguely, and publicly in the forum) and you have a problem with someone offering their opinion because of what??! I thought this forum was all about opinions or did I miss something?

Of course this forum is about opinions. And as you can see, you may state your opinion. The original poster asked a question, which you decided not to answer, instead take a smal at the conservatives.

You did not even answer my question anyway. Instead of naming one, you decided to stereotype conservatives. Usually when a question is asked as a result of a quote of another user, it is directed to him/her.

When I said "for what conservative would you not say that", you never said "that", so it can't be directed to you.
 
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 5:41 am

My thoughts on Bill Frist.

He is a very accomplished surgeon, well known for his international charity and pro bono work in the third world, who moved into the Senate after doing his due diligence politically, and taking the seat from a well intrenched incumbent Democrat and moving up in the ranks to the point where he was the organizing force behind the Senate coming back to the Republicans.

He has displayed some less than astute parliamentary moves, but he has also been faced with some unprecedented attention and moves by the Democrats who are able to direct some unpleasing attention towards him based on his personal beliefs and feelings about life.
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 5:41 am

Quoting BRAVO7E7 (Reply 1):
Sure, he said some stupis stuff, but doesn't everyone?

Yeah... we all have our moments. And I sincerly hope when Frist stated he was opposed to the Constitutional division of powers between the legislature and judiciary was one of them  Yeah sure

Montesquieu is probably spinning in his grave so fast we can fix this here energy crisis by hooking him up to a turbine generator.

Quoting Mdsh00 (Thread starter):

To me he represents a Republican Party drunk with their own power.

That's exactly how I would describe him. I'm so sick of the GOP exploiting my religion in attempt to further their political goals. It's disgusting.

Then, you point at the Constitution and say: "you guys are going a little bit too far with the whole religion shtick for elected leaders," and they claim religion is being "attacked." Give me a break: it's us Joe Blow just want to live our lives-types who are being attacked, and by asking the Bill Frist's of the world to stop, they take that credible request and distort it into a sound bit.

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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 6:00 am

Quoting BRAVO7E7 (Reply 7):
which you decided not to answer, instead take a smal at the conservatives.

Ask me about computers and some politicians I know something about and I'll give you a direct and intelligent (seeming) answer. Other then being a Republican/Democrat which in my mind qualifies him as a scumbag from the word go, I do not have enough information to pass on a through judgment.

Quoting BRAVO7E7 (Reply 7):
you decided to stereotype conservatives.

umm I said Democrats too!!

I'm convinced beyond a reasonable doubt both parties SUCK!! They both have hypocritical platforms in my eyes and they all take money like whores.
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 6:04 am

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 10):
I'm convinced beyond a reasonable doubt both parties SUCK!! They both have hypocritical platforms in my eyes and they all take money like whores.

Let me try to simplify this process. Who did you vote for in 2004? 2000? 1996? 1992?
 
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 6:32 am

Quoting BRAVO7E7 (Reply 11):
Who did you vote for in 2004? 2000? 1996? 1992?

MORONS!! Sorry, but it is my explicit right to not divuldge who I vote for and, I choose to excersize it! Let's just say this, none of the people I ultimately voted for I was proud of. In the comming years I am going to become more active in trying to find an alternative candidate that doesn't make the country puke a 1/2 @ a time.


I think the biggest problem is seperating people from these two monoliths, and saying wait a minute; in my case: there is a party that won't take money from PACs/Big corps/big money and will make it illegal to get ANYTHING but campaign contributions (if not change to process to federally funded) and their salary ONLY; IE no golf trips to wherever; supports the death penalty and abortion; supports governement fiscal responsibility (but not absolute constitionalism); doesn't care what goes on in my (or anyone else's) bedroom as that has NOTHING to do with FEEDING my kids.

Or in someonelses case a party that doesn't allow for abortion or execution, etc etc...
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 6:39 am

My main concern about him is that, as a doctor, he said that he thinks AIDS might be spread by coughing or shaking hands. And he didn't say this 20 years ago or 10 years ago, he said this a week or two ago. Also, he has become much more fervently religious in the past few months in an attempt to court the evangelical Christian vote, which is fine, but he is taking it so far as to say that the decisions that he comes to in Congress are ordained by God. He seems to be going out of his way to make it easy for both Democratic and Republican opponents to attack him. There was an article a day or two ago in The Wall Street Journal about this very subject, I'll try to find it at home and transcribe it after work. I have respect for him as a doctor, but his conclusions on Terry Schiavo after reading media reports from 2000 miles away and having never examined her as well as his statement about AIDS have me questioning his use of his medical degree. He is also pretty much in the pocket of big-Pharma, of which many companies are under increasing fire recently for either selling drugs that the company possibly knew could kill people (Merck with Vioxx) or suing another drug company to prevent them from bringing a drug to the market that could have helped more than 3 million people in the US alone with various food, especially nut, allergies (Novartis and Genentech). So, pretty much, I view the majority of his statements and decisions with suspicion.

As an addendum, there are many people on both sides of the aisle whom I am concerned about, not just Dr. Frist and not just Republicans.

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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 6:42 am

Quoting Texan (Reply 13):
he said that he thinks AIDS might be spread by coughing or shaking hands. And he didn't say this 20 years ago or 10 years ago, he said this a week or two ago.

It boggles the mind!! Are you sure he didn't say that the casual cough or handshake can kill a person with AIDS? Can I have a citation?
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 6:42 am

Quoting BRAVO7E7 (Reply 11):
Let me try to simplify this process. Who did you vote for in 2004? 2000? 1996? 1992?

We ask the same question of you, Bravo.

Oh, wait. You didn't vote in ANY of those elections, did you.
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:13 am

TedTAce, he said it on one of the talk shows, George Stephenopholis' if I remember correctly. I'll try to find a link.

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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:20 am

Quoting Texan (Reply 16):
I'll try to find a link.

Thank you  Smile
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:29 am

Frankly, since the whole Terri Schiavo case, the man has been going deeper and deeper off the edge

Maybe because he is an accomplished physican and has dedicated his life to helping and giving aid to others he took the whole thing personal.

Americans have really gone off the deep end in the last few years. We think nothing of paying $4.50 for a small cup of coffee at Starbucks, but bitch about paying $2.00 a gal for gas, when the rest of the World has been paying far more. We will weep and cry and work until will die to help a sick wayward whale, but just say "screw it, let her die....that is what her husband 'SAID' she said years ago" We will go by the millions to see a movie about Christ, but the 'Hollywood elitist' do not even give it the chance to be nominated for an award. We go to war to help set others free from fear, murder, torture and tearinay and then bitch because at the 'snap' of our fingers all is not well in 2 short years, when it has taken us over 200 years to get things right and we are still making changes.

Americans have just became too soft and want things their way with the snap of their finger and are not willing to pay the price.
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:43 am

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 18):

Maybe because he is an accomplished physican and has dedicated his life to helping and giving aid to others he took the whole thing personal.

Then if he were a true to his profession, he wouldn't be making medical judgements on a woman thousands of miles away without giving her a proper medical examination. End of point.
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 8:39 am

Now that I have read the http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7611755/ article I'm convinced he's a total LOOSER.

Quoting Diamond (Reply 15):
We ask the same question of you, Bravo.

Oh, wait. You didn't vote in ANY of those elections, did you.

I think Diamond scared Bravo away.. Booo hoooo
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 8:51 am

Quoting BRAVO7E7 (Reply 1):
Overall, I think he is a good guy

Sure. Anyone who kowtows to Bush & Co, just like you evidently do, must be a A Okay guy, right?

Quoting Diamond (Reply 15):
We ask the same question of you, Bravo.
Oh, wait. You didn't vote in ANY of those elections, did you.

LOL! Bravo Diamond!  Smile
 
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 8:58 am

Quoting Mdsh00 (Thread starter):
His attacks on Democrats as "people against faith" are upsetting.

Calling Democrats as "people against faith" was unfair and showed poor judgment. Having said that, it's also true that Democrats are exercising a wrong and immoral litmus test against Bush's nominees to the judiciary. In the view of Sen. Kennedy and his gang any pro-life candidate has no right to get a lifetime tenure as an appellation judge. That's stupid and make a lot of people mad.

Quoting Texan (Reply 13):
My main concern about him is that, as a doctor, he said that he thinks AIDS might be spread by coughing or shaking hands.

I'd love to see a link. I hardly believe that a MD would say something so wrong and offensive.
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 10:22 am

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 14):
Quoting Texan (Reply 13):
he said that he thinks AIDS might be spread by coughing or shaking hands. And he didn't say this 20 years ago or 10 years ago, he said this a week or two ago.

It boggles the mind!! Are you sure he didn't say that the casual cough or handshake can kill a person with AIDS? Can I have a citation?

He went on national television a few months ago and supported a completely refuted report by a conservative agency saying you can get HIV from a casual cough, handshake or the tears of someone who is infected as well as condom use only being 70% effective (they are really 97% effective in all use and 99.99% effective if used correctly and consistantly). Frist came on in support and was flately refuted by Dr. Drew Pinsky, who is much more an expert in sexual health. Frist had to back track when asked about tears saying something to the effect of "well, it would take a lot of tears". He should have his medical license pulled for making such outrageous claims that can cause so many deaths.

Quoting Diamond (Reply 15):
Quoting BRAVO7E7 (Reply 11):
Let me try to simplify this process. Who did you vote for in 2004? 2000? 1996? 1992?

We ask the same question of you, Bravo.

Oh, wait. You didn't vote in ANY of those elections, did you.

BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA. Though I do think BravoCheney did vote in 2004

Quoting SFOMEX (Reply 22):
. In the view of Sen. Kennedy and his gang any pro-life candidate has no right to get a lifetime tenure as an appellation judge

Their view is that anti-choice candidates are named as appelate judges in order to violate the constitutional protections as relates to right to privacy and control over one's body.
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:07 am

Sadly, Sen. Frist, along with other 'right wing' Republicans and the reactions of 'left wing' Democrats, are causing a more polarized America. Both parties are moving the USA away from centerist, moderate and balanced positions, mainly to attract media attention, the small numbers of voters who are still independent or even vote and the huge amounts of money needed for elections.
Sometimes people should have stayed with what they know rather than going in directions or do things that they really should not have. Sen. Frist should have stayed with being a doctor and medical services executive.
 
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:14 am

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 24):
Sadly, Sen. Frist, along with other 'right wing' Republicans and the reactions of 'left wing' Democrats, are causing a more polarized America. Both parties are moving the USA away from centerist, moderate and balanced positions, mainly to attract media attention, the small numbers of voters who are still independent or even vote and the huge amounts of money needed for elections.
Sometimes people should have stayed with what they know rather than going in directions or do things that they really should not have. Sen. Frist should have stayed with being a doctor and medical services executive.

(Meant in a supportive encouraging manner) Whooooo HOOO!!! Out of the park buddy!!!
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:33 am

Frist should be the poster child favouring retroactive abortions.
 
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:43 am

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 24):
Sadly, Sen. Frist, along with other 'right wing' Republicans and the reactions of 'left wing' Democrats, are causing a more polarized America.

Except that the political left has done nothing buy cow toe to the right and not do anything to push across the policies of their constituency
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:46 am

Those on here tell of his medical knowledge. Then tell me this: how can someone so versed in medicine, and who knows a patient cannot be properly diagnosed unless he/she examines thm personally, come out with such an outrageous statement in the Schiavo case that she seemed lucid and aware of her surroundings? He said that, without ever have examined the woman.

In that case, his partisianship as a far right conservative, beholden to the "pro-life" movement, far outweighted any brains he has a physician, which makes him, in my view, neither a very bright politican or a very smart doctor.

He's becoming an extremist politician, beholden to an extreme political movement, and it's starting to show in every way. He's becoming as much a threat to the Senate as that asshole Delay is in the House.

As far as his fight to get the fillabuster thrown out, future Republicans in the Senate will rue the day, and curse him to hell, when they find themselves, as they will sooner than you think, in a minority position in the Senate, and will have nothing in which to fight legislation or appointments they will think are unwise or dangerous.

Fortunately, I think enough Senators have enough common sense in them, that his attempt to totally strip away the ability of the minority party to fight things they don't like, that this attempt to get rid of the fillabuster will fail.

If he succeeds, then once again, the Republicans will show that they feel they're above proceedure and rules, and will become even more headstrong and arrogant. And guys like Frist, will ultimately lead to the GOP's demise from their current strength. Which, in the long run, suits me just fine.
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:47 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 27):
not do anything to push across the policies of their constituency

ummm how do you push your agenda when the majority will not let you?
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:05 pm

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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:19 pm

His initial reaction to the question "Do you believe that tears and sweat can transmit HIV?"
"I don't know"

"success in Africa"?!?! With abstinence???? How fast is AIDS spreading there?!?!?

Quoting Texan (Reply 13):
he said that he thinks AIDS might be spread by coughing or shaking hands.

Maybe a touch more emphasis should have been placed on the 'might' but damn you are frighteningly correct.
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:24 pm

In fairness, watching that piece, I don't hear Frist saying you can get HIV/AIDS through coughing or shaking hands. He didn't say that. He did say that it would be very hard to get the disease through tears and sweat glands, which, by every scientific account, has never happened, and by every account, this disease is not spread that way.

And for a doctor to come out and give tacit support to a government-funded program that says that fully intact condoms may not preven AIDS, is just quackery of the worst kind. But as we've seen, this is an administration and a power base in Washington, that does not give any creedence to any science if it bucks a certain political agenda. This man, Mr. Frist, is walking proof of such quackery.
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:57 pm

Quoting BRAVO7E7 (Reply 11):
Who did you vote for in 2004? 2000? 1996? 1992?

1992: Senate: Stevens (R), F Murkowski (R); House: Young (R)
1996: Senate: Stevens (R), F Murkowski (R); House: Young (R)
2000: Senate: Stevens (R), F Murkowski (R); House: Young (R)
2004: Senate: Stevens (R), Knowles (D); House: Young (R)

Since you asked. . . . . please note F Murkowski is a Frank. His dumbass daughter was appointed to the US Senate when he resigned to become our Governor - and about the worst one we've ever had. Daughter Lisa is now a US Senator (R) from Alaska who couldn't find her ass with both hands a whole damn Infantry Scout Battalion. Knowles would have done a much better job.

Frist - a decent, much accomplished physician and surgeon. He was tossed into the hot seat when he won election, and now is making his share of errors in judgement . . . . e.g. the Shaivo case . . . . but all in all I believe a decent man who will - upon reflection do the right thing.


I do think he is - unfortunately - too often swayed by the Republican Party Line these days. He needs to get back to doing his job. Of course - that could be said of every asshole on both sides of the aisle in both houses, Republican or Democrat or Independent who have failed to move this country forward and rather play partisan politics for their own benefit, rather than that of their constituency. Shameful for the most part.

Edit: Typo - must be the Talisker  Smile

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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 1:07 pm

There seems to be a good deal of hair pulling and teeth gnashing going on here. Senator Frist is not an extremist, especially when compared to some in the Senate. Is he a politician? Well, yeah....

And to everyone who believes themselves to be better qualified than he to offer a medical opinion.....well, ok. What medical school did you attend, and did you serve in the nations most respected hospitals? Are you capable of successfully transplanting human organs? Just wondering. You might not like his quotes on Schiavo, but then you probably don't like his position on abortion either and would impugn that as well.

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 32):
fully intact condoms may not preven AIDS, is just quackery of the worst kind

Even a fully intact condom is no guarantee of protection, and to believe it is is incorrect. The only guarantee of protection against the disease, any disease is abstinence. Barring that ensuring a monagamous relationship with a person tested negative for the disease. After that the best answer is a condom, but if a condom is not a guarantee against pregnancy, their original intent, then how can it absolutely prevent a virus from spreading?
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Sun Apr 24, 2005 1:35 pm

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 29):
Quoting N1120A (Reply 27):
not do anything to push across the policies of their constituency

ummm how do you push your agenda when the majority will not let you?

Well, one, you envigorate your constituency and become the majority. Second, you use means that are set out to prevent the tyrany of the majority.

Quoting DL021 (Reply 34):
After that the best answer is a condom, but if a condom is not a guarantee against pregnancy, their original intent, then how can it absolutely prevent a virus from spreading?

Condoms are just as effective against pregnancy as they are against HIV. It is a matter of consistant and correct use. That use makes the failure rate statistically insignificant
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Mon Apr 25, 2005 4:26 am

Update on Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist:

"Bill Frist was telling conservatives on Sunday that judges deserve "respect, not retaliation," no matter how they rule, and he defended his effort to strip Democrats of their ability to block votes on President Bush's court nominees.

"Our judiciary must be independent, impartial and fair," Frist said in his taped remarks.

"When we think judicial decisions are outside mainstream American values, we will say so. But we must also be clear that the balance of power among all three branches requires respect -- not retaliation. I won't go along with that," Frist said."

Link: http://us.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/04/24/senate.filibuster.ap/index.html
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Mon Apr 25, 2005 4:41 am

Quoting SFOMEX (Reply 36):
and he defended his effort to strip Democrats of their ability to block votes on President Bush's court nominees.

"Our judiciary must be independent, impartial and fair," Frist said in his taped remarks.

And there he makes to completely contradictory statements.
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Mon Apr 25, 2005 4:56 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 35):
Condoms are just as effective against pregnancy as they are against HIV. It is a matter of consistant and correct use. That use makes the failure rate statistically insignificant

Not to hijack this thread into something besides Frist, but let me clear this up about HIV transmission. It can be transmitted through transfer of bodily fluid, and during sex a condom only covers a relatively small portion of the body. The sex acts include those where fluids can be transmitted where condoms are not used, and even if they could be human nature itself prevents their usage.

I won't get detailed or scatalogical here, but use your imagination and then tell me what the best defense against HIV transmission is.
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:07 am

Quoting DL021 (Reply 38):
Not to hijack this thread into something besides Frist, but let me clear this up about HIV transmission. It can be transmitted through transfer of bodily fluid, and during sex a condom only covers a relatively small portion of the body. The sex acts include those where fluids can be transmitted where condoms are not used, and even if they could be human nature itself prevents their usage.

I won't get detailed or scatalogical here, but use your imagination and then tell me what the best defense against HIV transmission is.

The amounts of bodily fluid needed and the concentrations in which they are needed, along with the fact that the fluid need be transfered directly means that with consistant and correct condom use, HIV transmission is statistically insignificant
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Mon Apr 25, 2005 5:11 pm

Quoting Mdsh00 (Thread starter):
Frankly, since the whole Terri Schiavo case, the man has been going deeper and deeper off the edge. His attacks on Democrats as "people against faith" are upsetting. I fear he will be the next Tom Delay, and I hope to God that he does not become our president.

I rather like him and Tom Delay. Between Terri Shiavo, Bush's very unpopular Social Security reform, Delay's ethics violations, and Frist's attempt to go change the fillibuster rule, they are paving the way for the Dems to narrow their majorities in '06.

Bush's approval rating the lowest in history for an incumbent at this time in his Presidency, around 42%, and Congressional job approval is around 39%.
 
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Tue Apr 26, 2005 3:55 pm

don't get me started.... hypocrite is all i will say.
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RE: Opinions Of Bill Frist?

Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:26 pm

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