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What's Your Stereotype?

Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:17 am

Watching the simpsons a every now and again there's an Australian stereotype pop up or a funny send up of an Australian or something along these lines that, while I'll laugh at it, has no sense of reality or justification for me. It's funny how you get these little snippets of information about what other countries think of you and I was wondering what sought of stereotypes you guys have for other countries. I'm interested in the Australian ones but feel free (please do) post any other stereotypes you may have of other countries. Also what do you think the stereotype of your countries citizens is and do you think that you fall into it? Do you think there is any basis for it?

Nothing major, I was just wondering what you guys thought...

cheers,
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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:24 am

Swiss stereotype:

Cows and guy eating chocolate and cheese both with the matterhorn behind them....

Other stereotype people have around here: A gay person : Etither a nurse, a steward, a ballet dancer or a hairdresser
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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:30 am

I'm not sure what an American sterotype is, we have so many possibilities.

If it's a "shoot first ask questions later" cowboy type, then I'm definately not one.

If it's an overfed undereducated lazy slob than I'm not that either (Tho I could stand to lose a few pounds).

I don't fit any of the gay sterotypes either, I'm not femme, don't lisp (Tho I guess you could say I am a tad promiscuous).

I'm certainly not a Bible-thumper.

I guess it depends on the world view of Americans...gimme some feedback and I'll let you know.
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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:38 am

I am very fortunate in that my personal stereotype was defined for me by a great American. A former UN Ambassador, a two term Mayor of the City of Atlanta, and a soldier and leader of the Civil Rights movement in this country.

During a heated political battle he was angrily discussing the state of politics in the Georgia Democratic Party, which ran Georgia politics until the end of the last century, and he responded to a question from Hosea Williams (at least the way Hosea told the story) about whether they should support Walter Mondale for President and Young, who had recently been ignored by the Mondale campaign staff when he offered advice about how to win in Georgia, replied "Those @$$#o!&$ are nothing but a bunch of smart ass white boys and they'd lose Georgia even if it wasn't Reagan running!"

Well, as a proud member of the SAWB's of America, I once again thank Andy Young for this appellation, which could have been much worse. To his credit, he smiles and laughs whenever he hears this term and takes full credit for the statement.
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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Mon Apr 25, 2005 1:10 am

Italy stereotypes: The Italian Mafia or Mob, loud people, talk way too fast, great food.

Australian: Can't say anything because your great country gave us the hunks Julian McMahon and Hugh Jackman.  Wink

As for American stereotypes, well the majority going on now are all thanks to our wonderful so called "president": Bullies, invaders, full of ourselves, fat and lazy people, the list is really endless.
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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Mon Apr 25, 2005 1:33 am

Swedes: Farmers or retared chefs!

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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:27 am

I certainly fall into the Fat American bit. I'm not lazy, I work very hard, but unfortunately the work I do is on my ass, so I don't know what excersize is.
Otherwise while I look somewhat Jewish/European, the fact I'm adopted negates this, making me as much of an all American Mutt as one can be.
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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:42 am

Slovenians: conservative, envoius, would rather burn theireighbour's car than congratulate him for the purchase, appreciate a sip of a good alcoholic drink (or two sips, or three, or four... or seven hundred twentyfive  drunk  Wink, live in a shabby house or an appartment and sport a Mercedes or a BMW on the driveway etc. etc. I'M ALL THAT AND SOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH MORE!!!  crazy 

Germans: Ballermann, wear white socks and sandals, are extremely organized and orderly, put sentences like "Wir sind Papst/ We are the Pope" in their newspapers.

Americans: hmmmmmm.... from a chocolate brown South Beach muscular stud via tabacco spitting Levi's wearing cowboys to motorbike riding party animals living in sterile gated communities.

No offence, please. Those are just some rough images of how I picture you, guys. JUST KIDDING. I have already met representatives/members of the above mentioned nations and I have had nothing but nice experience with them.
 
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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Mon Apr 25, 2005 5:21 am

I think others see Americans as shallow, think-for-the-moment types that are absolutely blind to their own arrogance. We've been brainwashed by our history into thinking, "We're Number 1!" We're so egotistical and short-sighted that we don't understand why the people of other countries see us as big-headed putzes. We think, "Can't they SEE that America is the greatest? Don't they know they're below us?" And then we wonder why they don't like us.

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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Mon Apr 25, 2005 5:41 am

Asstchiefmark and other self-hating Americans really put a drag to lighthearted threads.  Sad

Okay here are some stereotypes I have.

Australians: I think of lizards, kangaroos and those cute little Kwala(spelling) bears. Oh and I knew this loud mouth Aussie lady back in the day. Boy was she funny, but I could never get her to shut up.

U.K.: Their accents may make them sound smart, but once you actually have a conversation with them they're no smarter than you. hehe

French: Hmmm, I think of cheese, wine and a beautiful language which I'm trying to learn. Oh yeah, they are also known to be very impatient. I remember watching Airport on BBC America and I got a chuckle out of the frenchman noticing how calm everyone was after hours of delay and confusion at London Heathrow. He said that had this been Paris, there would have been a riot already.

Canadians: Polite and boring...haha

Americans: Loud, fat (we need help folks), and know-it-alls.
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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:32 am

Canadians.... I get the impression everyone thinks we dull boring bland leftist compromisers... either that or a nation of lumberjacks... well I get those impressions from Americans if they have any thoughts on us other than thinking we are just like them... from my Dutch colleagues I get the feeling we give off no impression or that we are just like Americans... Usually everyone in Europe I meet thinks I'm an American or British (my accent falls somewhere between the two apparently)

As for Australians... I'm literally on the other side of the world and ironically I spoke to a fella in Sydney by chance just last week on this very subject... Usually when I think of Australia the following words come to mind: Sydney, Melbourne, Perth, Brisbane, Darwin, Qantas, Bondi Beach, Great White Sharks, Fosters, Kangaroos, Koalas, Ayers Rock, multicultural, Sailing, boomerangs, Sydney Gay Pride, The Great Barrier Reef, the Outback, Aboriginals, Dingos, Nicole Kidman, INXS, Tasmania, sunshine, swimmers, the Gold Coast, Olympians, an easy going lifestyle and nice people under the Southern Cross.

For the Dutch (since I work for and with them)... they are centralists, colonialistic, protective, pragmatic, orderly, robotic, organized, beer loving, multilingual, multicultural, educated, intelligent, leftist, sensitive, compasionate, liberal, structured, traditional yet modern depending on the situation and where in Holland, high tech, design oriented, artistic, tall, thin, cyclists, football crazy and are people who love if not crave ice cream, french fries, eggs, krokets and anything with alcohol.

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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:51 am

My personal favorite is just the plain old European stereotype:

1-Must be wearing aviator glasses
2-Must having a part of his/her pants shredded
3-Must be wearing a zip-up cardigan with his/her's country's flag on the arm
4-Must insist that Europeans are better dressed than Americans
5-Must show off at art museums; suitable museums include: MoMA in New York or any other modern art exhibit
6-Must be wearing Pumas or some other sort of similar shoe.

That's what most everyone I know thinks a European stereotype is. =)
 
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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Mon Apr 25, 2005 10:19 am

Thanks for all the responses guys, There are exactly what I was wondering.

Ozark, The funny thing with me is that I don't have a stereotypical American to base any comment on. There just seems to be soo many of you out there.
Of course there's the image of the worlds fattest nation, but where the second fattest so I don't see it as a description I'd describe Americans as because there aren't that many obese people here. There are the cowboy style images but we have them (sure, a variation of them but still I'd count our country boys), The California beach bum type...very much like our own beach culture and Then I see the guys on A.net and people I've met and there just like us.

The only three that really stand out are the Jerry Springer type Red necks - trailer trash, The J.Lo style born in the Bronx, unfavorable situation but is a good person and succeeds phenomenally in life and NewYorkers just have a vibe about the in TV shows, can't describe it but they do. I've never met a New Yorker in person. But these three stereotypes again must only be a tiny tiny minority of people and can't be used to judge a nation of people.

That's all for me, Cheers,

OzGuy

btw, CORULEZ05, everyone has heard of that American stereotype you mentioned and you definitely hear people "Bush-Bashing" in the streets over here but those people are looked down upon here. I have no reason to use this stereotype as I like bush and think he was amazingly strong in wake of 911 (yes I'm bringing 911 into this thread) I couldn't imagine having a piece of news like this told to me while I was reading a childrens story to class of five year olds and I don't want to. You only really hear the bush bashers because they're the ones that think they have a point that needs to be argued, I think those who like the guy don't need to put their feelings into words, shouting them from outside his embassy - in Canberra of all places - however any miles it is away from him....Just my opinion, would like to hear others but please no bashing, that's not what I intended this thread for.
 
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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Mon Apr 25, 2005 10:55 am

Quoting Daedaeg (Reply 9):
Asstchiefmark and other self-hating Americans really put a drag to lighthearted threads

What's wrong with a little introspection? We could all stand some self-improvement.

Quoting OzGuy (Reply 12):
amazingly strong in wake of 911

I viewed it as amazingly shrewd. A lot of things changed after 11/9, most of them at the hand of the Bush administration. Everything is in the name of patriotism. Looks like he took a page from "Wag the Dog". In the case of our supposedly Red America, maybe it's Wag the Elephant.

Quoting OzGuy (Reply 12):
I think those who like the guy don't need to put their feelings into words

Well, obviously, those who are happy with the president don't need to say anything to get what they want; they already have it. You didn't hear all the 'Bush bashers' complaining about Clinton when he was digging his grave (and the grave of many Democrats). Does that make them better than those who were speaking out against it? Not really.
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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Mon Apr 25, 2005 11:27 am

In '98 when he was impeached I was 11 years old and couldn't of cared less. When he left office I was still only 14ish.

I realise I haven't lived through many of your presidents like you have and my commentary is coming from the other side of the world, The difference is that clintons affair didn't see Australians going to war or directly affect us and bushes did so there was a bit more 'noise' against America this time.

SATX you do have a point though, and I respect your opinion.

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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Mon Apr 25, 2005 11:53 am

Alaskan Stereotype:

Hunt, Fish, Live in Igloos.

Mine is a three bedroom two bath igloo (condominium style) with underground parking  wink 
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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Mon Apr 25, 2005 11:59 am

Italians - Lazy, laid back, and no sense of time.

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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:35 pm

Forget about countries:

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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:40 pm

Quoting Caribb (Reply 10):
As for Australians... I'm literally on the other side of the world and ironically I spoke to a fella in Sydney by chance just last week on this very subject... Usually when I think of Australia the following words come to mind: Sydney, Melbourne, Perth, Brisbane, Darwin, Qantas, Bondi Beach, Great White Sharks, Fosters, Kangaroos, Koalas, Ayers Rock, multicultural, Sailing, boomerangs, Sydney Gay Pride, The Great Barrier Reef, the Outback, Aboriginals, Dingos, Nicole Kidman, INXS, Tasmania, sunshine, swimmers, the Gold Coast, Olympians, an easy going lifestyle and nice people under the Southern Cross.

That's fair - I accept that.

That said - Canadians do tend to have a broader world view than most people from other countries.

I personally HATE stereotypes of any kind - even positive ones. It's discrimination and completely unfunny.

My advice? Don't have pre-conceived notions of people based on their nationality - and accept that nations are broad, diverse creatures.

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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Tue Apr 26, 2005 9:00 am

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 15):
Mine is a three bedroom two bath igloo (condominium style) with underground parking

Please God please....tell me you did not move to Alaska to live in a condo....
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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Tue Apr 26, 2005 9:58 am

Quoting DL021 (Reply 19):
Please God please....tell me you did not move to Alaska to live in a condo....

See my personal IM to you, however, it's necessary in that the job is 800 miles from the residence. Waiting to retire (again  biggrin  in 2012, to build the place I want. Have the land, just not the time.

Not to worry - I live in my camper all summer . . .  thumbsup 
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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:05 am

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 15):
Alaskan Stereotype:

Hunt, Fish, Live in Igloos.

Mine is a three bedroom two bath igloo (condominium style) with underground parking

Thats priceless ANC.  Silly  Silly  Silly
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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Tue Apr 26, 2005 11:19 am

Quoting SATX (Reply 13):
You didn't hear all the 'Bush bashers' complaining about Clinton when he was digging his grave (and the grave of many Democrats).

Some of us "Bush bashers" were complaining about Clinton at the time!

The Texan stereotype. Shoot first ask questions later; extremely arrogant; talk slow; back country hicks; we're all oil millionaires; we don't know what asphalt is (actually had someone in New York try telling me about asphalt since we don't have roads in Texas); we all own horses; we all own cattle; we all drive beat up pickups; couldn't tell the difference between an ass and a hole in the ground; all Republicans who back Bush.

Ok, so I'm guilty on the horses, cattle, and the pickup (it's down on the ranch, used solely for driving around the property). Not guilty on most of the others. Except for being obnoxiously proud of my state. But, hey, if you live as close to heaven as there is on earth, why not talk about it?  Smile

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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:01 pm

Newfoundland stereotype-

Stupid old fisher dudes.  old 

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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:08 pm

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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:20 pm

Hehe...if you guys want to see European stereotypes, then I suggest you see the movie "Euro Trip" Big grin
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0356150/

Also, Family Guy has a really funny snippet about Australia (one of the episodes from Season 2). They portray it as a barren wasteland, filled with Kangaroos, crocodiles (in a swamp) and a deadly Koala which attacks Peter..haha...damn funny!
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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:20 pm

Crapchesterians: IROC-drivin goatee-wearin' Aqua Velva-stinkin' gold chain-wrapped wafflers who eat garbage plates and can't get a boat across the lake to Toronto.
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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:32 am

I leave the German stereotypes to others  Wink

Here are some that I know:

American: The nice superficial guy who doesn't have a clue about anything in the world, either fat or totally the sports guy, always wearing white socks and running shoes, baseball or golf hats and some kind of event t-shirts e.g. 'Alabama Pie Festival 2002' (add a stupid slogan), has no style for food, culture, history etc.

British: A chubby red-head who drinks warm beer and gets into fist fights for fun. He loves to make fun of the Germans because his country won WW2 60 years ago and doesn't notice he's the only one who still cares about these things. That's because he thinks the UK is still one of the world's biggest empires.

French: Everybody knows that their country is great and famous for the food and wines, so they use the opportunity to show off their surperiority. They refuse to speak anything but French although they know other languages. French people always want to have the last word because THEY have the best opinion. No compromises - that's why half the country is always on strike no matter when you're there.

Turkish: They all drive a big German car which is so pimped up that's it's just ridiculous. Driving up and down the street , they are playing Turkish pop music looking for girls that they can show off their gold chained chest and gel hairstyle to. If you want to piss one of them off, make a comment on their lifestyle or family - anything that attacks their honor.



Nothing like a good stereotype to make fun of.  Wink Great entertainment as long as you don't take them seriously. I have really good friends from other countries that I would have never gotten to know if I looked at everything in the stereotype perspective.

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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:39 am

Quoting BREmer (Reply 27):
British: A chubby red-head who drinks warm beer and gets into fist fights for fun. He loves to make fun of the Germans because his country won WW2 60 years ago and doesn't notice he's the only one who still cares about these things. That's because he thinks the UK is still one of the world's biggest empires.

Let me add how the typical Brit looks on holidays in Spain or Greece: They are full of tatoos, wearing mostly a football shirt, their skin is totally red because of a severe sunburn, they are drinking beer 24/7 and usually pick a fight in a bar or disco in the evening.  Wink

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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:42 am

Quoting Salso (Reply 7):
Germans: Ballermann, wear white socks and sandals, are extremely organized and orderly, put sentences like "Wir sind Papst/ We are the Pope" in their newspapers.

And they're quite fond of putting towels on sunbeds (very) early in the morning  Wink

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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:48 am

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 28):
wearing mostly a football shirt, their skin is totally red because of a severe sunburn

Predominantly Arsenal, Manchester Utd. or Liverpool - to match the color of their skin. Big grin
 
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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Wed Apr 27, 2005 1:09 am

The Germans:

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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Wed Apr 27, 2005 1:30 am

Add sunbed stealers to the Germans as well.
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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Wed Apr 27, 2005 1:48 am

Ok then, one of the typical Socts?



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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Wed Apr 27, 2005 1:49 am

Quoting Texan (Reply 22):
The Texan stereotype

When I was a little kid in the early 70's and would travel, I'd always get asked the same set of question by folks, after I told them I was from Houston: "Do you 1) Own an oil well? 2) Know any astronauts? 3) Have cattle?
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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:43 am

Quoting BREmer (Reply 27):
They refuse to speak anything but French although they know other languages

They don't speak French at all. Everybody knows they speak English behind our backs and only speak French to annoy us.
 
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RE: What's Your Stereotype?

Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:06 am

these are good comments!

OzGuy, I like Caribb's stereotypes of Australia, but I would also say that in the U.S., the combined celebrity of Paul Hogan and Steve Irwin have left a strong impression. Most Americans have never been to Oz and are unaware that it is a very urban country like ours, so the images of the outback and distinctive wildlife (kangaroos, koalas, crocs) run very strong.

The USA stereotypes listed above I'd agree with, negative as they are. A lot of those stereotypes (ignorance, arrogance, superiority, fat and lazy) are quite true, and I'm embarassed about them, but they reflect the dominant political culture and certainly not everyone is like that.  ashamed 

For NYC, as diverse as it is, I'll give it a try:
Bunch of intellectual snobs who think they are better than the rest of the country (we are!) and think they know what's best for the rest of the country (we do!). People who eat prosciutto and drink frappucinos. Liberal weenies who favor gay marriage, are pro-choice, anti-gun and anti-war. Wouldn't know the first thing about how to handle ourselves in "the great outdoors" if we were dropped down into the woods somewhere.

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