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The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:43 pm

So, with just a week left before polling date, what's going to happen?
Will Labour romp home as many election forecasts have predicted or will the Tories use the immigration issue to swing voters in the last minute?

Will the new revelation that the Attorney General's letter on the Iraq war go against Blair? Strange that it should have surfaced now, just a week or so before the election?

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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:46 pm

Will there even be one Labour vs. Tory thread on a.net??  biggrin 

Come on guys, we had plenty of Bush/Kerry threads, feel free to follow suit.

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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:51 pm

Quoting Mir (Reply 1):
Come on guys, we had plenty of Bush/Kerry threads, feel free to follow suit.

Difference is, we don't believe. We hate them all. Election threads (and we've had a couple) invariably end up with everyone saying how they loathe one party fractionally less than the other, so might, at a push, if forced, consider voting for them, but only because the other lot are even worse.

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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:53 pm

IMO

Labour are bad for the country, TORY's are jsut a waste of space and the LIB dems are not going to be close to winning.

So its only worth voting for one of two parties, Labour or Tory.

Out of those two...well the can both destroy the country.

My vote will prob be Tory, long standing hate against labour since they came into power

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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:01 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 2):
consider voting for them, but only because the other lot are far, far worse.

See that's the difference to Germany: Our "red-green" government is crap, they did just about everything wrong they could lay their hands on, a brilliant counter-indicator so to speak...but given the comments of the others, the Christian Democrats and their boss, that horrible "Ossi" hag Merkel (communist until 1989, wants to tell us NOW how to organize markets ROFLMFAO!!), they are equally braindead, which leaves guys like myself who do not feel loyal to a certain political party just because their dad voted the same, in some kind of a vacuum.

You at least have a party that is "far, far worse"  Wink Big grin
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:05 pm

Its one of those difficult situations at the moment in Brit politics....
Most people I've spoken to don't want His Tonyness back in power, think taxes will definitely go up under Labour administration (think NI defo next year) and are kinda scared that a vote for Bliar is a vote for a *shudder* scottish Prime Minister - Gordon Brown.

However, most don't want Michael Howard either, and the conservative party still leave me feeling a bit cold - that nothing much will change. I think the conservatives will improve with time as they have some very talented younger individuals coming through.... I personally think their time will be in 2009, after Labour hang themselves by raising taxes to pay for their huge debts and public service .

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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:10 pm

Quoting BCal DC10 (Reply 5):
I think the conservatives will improve with time as they have some very talented younger individuals coming through....

The Tories have the same problem Labour did through the 1980's - memories of the last time they were in government. For Labour, everyone remembered the winter of discontent in 78/9, and for the Tories everyone remembers the chaos of the Major years. You're right, there are a few younger Tory MP's coming through that aren't tainted with those years, and as they rise to the top, the Conservatives will start to look like a real alternative.

Personally, I can't see any genuine alternative to Labour as a government but I do desperately want that majority cut substantially. I'd rather stick pins in my eyes that vote Conservative, but I want them to do a lot better than last time. Three consecutive huge majorities is a bit undesirable.
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:14 pm

Labour will win I think, but I believe I shall vote for the SNP, because the rest of the candidates in my constituency are plonkers.
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:17 pm

what do you think then? a majority over 100 is still pretty powerful - I'd be happier with a maj of 70 odd but thats a pretty huge swing for the tories to achieve...

The nature of the majority is also quite relevant. I think it is the more right wing Labour MP's that are likely to lose their seats, so the new Labour Government may well be pretty left wing - and hence more likely to rebel against Tony and be defeated in Commons votes.... it could make life quite difficult for him. Cue Gordon....
 
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:19 pm

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 7):
Labour will win I think, but I believe I shall vote for the SNP

Kirkie, I've never got this. You don't like the EU, so why would you vote for a party that says it wants Scottish independence, but also wants to sign up for everthing the EU puts forward? Is that not a bit of a contradiction? Is that not just swapping an (imagined) English dominance for a European one?
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:22 pm

Quoting BCal DC10 (Reply 8):
think it is the more right wing Labour MP's that are likely to lose their seats

Why do you think that?
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:26 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 6):
I'd rather stick pins in my eyes that vote Conservative, but I want them to do a lot better than last time. Three consecutive huge majorities is a bit undesirable.

Hehe - well put ! But I think on the whole I'd rather the Labour majority was slashed by Lib Dem gains than Tory ones. I don't have much info as to how well who is doing at the moment, but Private Eye (the only English journal I will deign to read) said that in Folkstone, there may be a Labour swing to Lib Dem to not only do down some Blairite apparatchik parachuted in, but also the ghastly Tory leader himself, Michael "Vlad the Impaler" Howard, who is the sitting MP. I will watch out for that one on election night.
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:35 pm

I think die hard Labour areas where there are majorities of 10,000+ in traditional Labour seats are likely to stay that way.

Marginals where the majorities are less than a few thousand, where people protest voted against the 1997 Tory administration, where the voters are not natural Labour supporters are more likely to fall either back to Tory or Lib Dem control.

If that does happen, maybe it will leave the Labour party political balance heading back towards the left, with a smaller majority

Maybe not. It was just a thought that I had, plus something I read in that balanced piece of editorial journalism known as the Telegraph.
 
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:43 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 6):
Personally, I can't see any genuine alternative to Labour as a government but I do desperately want that majority cut substantially. I'd rather stick pins in my eyes that vote Conservative, but I want them to do a lot better than last time. Three consecutive huge majorities is a bit undesirable.

That's exactly my feeling Banco - we at least need an opposition that is going to be somewhat meaningful and keep the government "honest" (well as honest as politicians can be).

too big a majority is never healthy - nor is a hung parliament mind you - but there has to be some sort of opposition.

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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:45 pm

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 11):
said that in Folkstone, there may be a Labour swing to Lib Dem to not only do down some Blairite apparatchik parachuted in, but also the ghastly Tory leader himself, Michael "Vlad the Impaler" Howard, who is the sitting MP

Well, I used to live there, and Howard was my MP! The thing about that seat is that at every election, pretty much the same thing has been said about it - Labour supporters will switch to Lib Dem etc. I remember in both 1992 and 1997 (i.e. before I moved away) Howard was supposed to be under threat. It just never happened. His majority stayed at around 9,000 regardless of what was happening nationally. It fell a bit last time to around 6,000, but I suspect that realistically, that is as low as it's going to go. For Howard to actually lose the seat, the Tories have got to do substantially worse than last time. I just don't see it.

Up the road in Dover it's a bit more interesting. After years of being Conservative, Labour got in in 2001. The MP Gwyn Prosser isn't the most popular of local representatives. That one may well go back to the Tories.
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:50 pm

Quoting BCal DC10 (Reply 12):
Maybe not. It was just a thought that I had, plus something I read in that balanced piece of editorial journalism known as the Telegraph.

Well, I agree that there may well be a swing back to the Tories in the marginals - to what degree is the question. But I don't think the New Labourites are concentrated so much in these seats. The change in type of MP is fairly uniform across the country, not just concentrated in the marginals.

Funnily enough, smaller majorities often make backbenchers less inclined to rebel, not more, as they can topple the government with an injudicious vote. Of course, if you have a genuine schism in the party (i.e. Conservatives, 1990-1997) then it's just a disaster, but I don't really see that with Labour.
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:54 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 9):
Kirkie, I've never got this. You don't like the EU, so why would you vote for a party that says it wants Scottish independence, but also wants to sign up for everthing the EU puts forward? Is that not a bit of a contradiction? Is that not just swapping an (imagined) English dominance for a European one?

So you think I should vote UKIP? I dont think they have a candidate around here. We have Labour, Tories, Lib Dems, SNP, or Scottish Socialist.

Now, the guy running for Labour is a pillock, Tories I just dont like, no idea who's the lady running for the Lib Dems, SNP guy's altright and not sure about who's running for the Socialist party.
On the day, it'll probably come down to Paper, Stone, Scissor who I vote for, but I am leaning towards the SNP even if I do hate the EU  Wink
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:55 pm

Thank whatever gods are out there that the Isle of man is independant of British Politics!

At least we know that whatever happens, it will be the same Manx Mafia that will be elected when we have an election!

The day that UK decides that we are to be part of the greater hedgemony is the day I give up and retire to somewhere hot and sunny and remote.

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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:57 pm

Just to annoy Banco once more, isnt it great the Scottish MPs can meddle in the affairs of the English, yet the English can't meddle in ours  Wink  bigthumbsup 

Yes, I know it's unfair, but still, pretty funny  Silly
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:57 pm

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 16):
So you think I should vote UKIP? I dont think they have a candidate around here. We have Labour, Tories, Lib Dems, SNP, or Scottish Socialist.

Now, the guy running for Labour is a pillock, Tories I just dont like, no idea who's the lady running for the Lib Dems, SNP guy's altright and not sure about who's running for the Socialist party.
On the day, it'll probably come down to Paper, Stone, Scissor who I vote for, but I am leaning towards the SNP even if I do hate the EU

I wouldn't be so presumptuous as to suggest who you should vote for! I was just wondering about how you rationalised voting for a party who believes in something you dislike so much. You've pretty much answered that.
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:58 pm

I shall be voting for Jethro Penburthy, Cornish Nationalist candidate for Surrey Spelthorne  Wink
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:59 pm

SNP or Scottish Socialist because I dislike the rest.
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:02 pm

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 17):
The day that UK decides that we are to be part of the greater hedgemony is the day I give up and retire to somewhere hot and sunny and remote.

That's not fair! You've left us with two competing desires. a) We can get rid of you, but it means taking on that Godforsaken hole or b) leave the damn place alone, but we get to keep you.

Bugger.

I think we should go for a compromise and tax you bastards to the hilt to pay for your defence etc. Big grin

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 18):
Just to annoy Banco once more, isnt it great the Scottish MPs can meddle in the affairs of the English, yet the English can't meddle in ours

Isn't it great how the Scots have all the oil, but we have all the money?  Wink
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:06 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 22):
Isn't it great how the Scots have all the oil, but we have all the money? Wink

Bloody English thiefs!
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:20 pm

If the Tories do very badly again, (while bad for democracy, judging by their sub BNP/UKIP whining Daily Mail 'campaign' they do richly deserve another drubbling), it will I think be seen as being due to them not opposing Iraq in 2003.
So all the stuff now from them sounds desperate and frankly dishonest.
Ironic considering that's what they are accusing Blair of.

Of course if the very unlikely did happen, and Michael Howard got to No.10, he'd have a problem.
Vile GOP Spinner Karl Rove, has banned him from the White House, due to Howard's belated (and opportunistic) attacks on Blair over Iraq.
(Better yet, some of those younger Tory MP's were invited to the US Embassy for the US 2004 election night, were wearing Kerry badges, and they weren't joking or being ironic!).

More likely, the Tories lose again and 'one more heave' to power still looks far off, what leader?
They've got it wrong every time since 1997, (just imagine how badly they'd be doing if Duncan-Smith was still running them), Howard was to them, (the old, europhobic, curtain twitchers who make up most of the Tory membership) the least worst option left, not that this time they really got a choice, after they screwed up so badly with Hague and IDS.
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:24 pm

Can anyone name anybody in the Conservative party other than Messrs Howard and Letwin? I'm bu*g*red if I can, and I read the Telegraph! At the moment the Tories just don't have what it takes.

The other thing about this election is that it the run-up has been dragging on for so long that I don't think anybody is really interested anymore. I think there is such apathy that the turnout will average around 50%.
 
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:53 pm

Quoting GDB (Reply 24):
(while bad for democracy, judging by their sub BNP/UKIP whining Daily Mail 'campaign' they do richly deserve another drubbling),

I don't blame them for doing this. It's distasteful, definitely, but they have to do something that'll get people voting for them. Immigration, because of people's irrational fears, works. Is it any worse that the Tories focus on it, than it is that people will vote for them because of it? I'd prefer these people to vote Tory than BNP, that's for sure.

Quoting GDB (Reply 24):
So all the stuff now from them sounds desperate and frankly dishonest.
Ironic considering that's what they are accusing Blair of.

I don't agree with that. Although it's a dreadful sell, Howard's position, that had he known what he now does, he couldn't have supported the government, is quite logical.

Quoting GDB (Reply 24):
Vile GOP Spinner Karl Rove, has banned him from the White House

That wouldn't matter. Politicians deal with reality. If Howard did become PM, you'd suddenly see smiles and handshakes. The Americans can hardly afford to fall out with Britain right now.

Quoting GDB (Reply 24):
A terrible thing to say, but it seems they won't get a decent leader until much of the current Tory membership are 6 feet under, literally.

The thing is, I remember exactly the same thing being said about Labour, circa 1992. Things change. At the time a lot of the press were saying that Labour would never be elected again. Governments get stale (we're already seeing signs of this) and the opposition suddenly look palatable. Howard is, and always was, a stop gap, whose role it is to get the Tories back within striking distance. Anything more is not, and never was, achievable. By those lights, he may yet do OK.

Quoting Willo (Reply 25):
Can anyone name anybody in the Conservative party other than Messrs Howard and Letwin? I'm bu*g*red if I can, and I read the Telegraph! At the moment the Tories just don't have what it takes.

Well, I could go through a few, but the central point is correct. they don't have public recognition. Again though, these things can change quite quickly.

Quoting Willo (Reply 25):
I think there is such apathy that the turnout will average around 50%

I always feel there is a lot of humbug spoken about this. Low turnouts happen when people a) don't feel there is a great deal of difference and b) when thy are generally content with the state of affairs. Apathy can be re-defined as being merely generally happy with things.

It's also a foregone conclusion as to who is going to win (the question is, by how much). A lot of occasional voters won't participate because they don't see it'll change anything.

You wait until we have a close election, with genuine differences between the parties. then turnout will go up markedly.
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:17 pm

I see all 3 leaders are being wheeled out by the BBC tonight on a question time thing. Everyone watching?!

They are appearing in turn, rather than all together? I heard Tony Bliar saying he won't do a group debate, but the other 2 were up for it. I wonder why Tony won't debate the issues face to face????
 
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:54 pm

Quoting BCal DC10 (Reply 27):
They are appearing in turn, rather than all together? I heard Tony Bliar saying he won't do a group debate, but the other 2 were up for it. I wonder why Tony won't debate the issues face to face????

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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:57 pm

Quoting Gman94 (Reply 28):
Tony Blair is not as good a mass debater as Howard and Kennedy.

Doesn't need to be when you look at Cherie's big gob  Wink

Sorry couldn't resist that one either Big grin
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:00 pm

Quoting Gman94 (Reply 28):
Tony Blair is not as good a mass debater as Howard and Kennedy. Sorry couldn't resist it.

The old ones are the best eh Gman94... lol

I don't know - I think Tony Bliar has mass debating down to a fine art  

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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:11 pm

I'm getting bored with it all now and wish it was today instead of next week.

I'm fed up of being accosted by bushy tailed canvassers who pounce on me when all I want is a packet of fags and a paper.

I'm fed up of Tony bleeding Blair trying to be all angelic and righteous on the telly and wish he'd just jack it in and let Gordon sort it out, or come out fighting.

I'm sick of Michael Howard trying to appear reasonable when we all know he's a vile old right winger suckled on the Thatcher tit

I'm sick of Mr Bleeding Goody Two Shoes Kennedy as well, even more so as I knew him at university and he is an arrogant piss artist who couldn't find his arse with both hands.

Bollocks to it all  Sad
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:57 pm

How about the BNP? How are they likely to do? Any gains possible anywhere?

There was a feature on Newsnight the otherday, when they showed some immigrant Indians and blacks actually wanting to vote for the BNP.
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:00 pm

Quoting BCal DC10 (Reply 27):
I heard Tony Bliar saying he won't do a group debate, but the other 2 were up for it. I wonder why Tony won't debate the issues face to face????

If the interview he gave to Jeremy Paxman is any indication, he is going to be grilled by the audience.
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:17 pm

Quoting DIJKKIJK (Reply 32):
How about the BNP? How are they likely to do? Any gains possible anywhere?

There was a feature on Newsnight the otherday, when they showed some immigrant Indians and blacks actually wanting to vote for the BNP.

They'll probably get seats in Bradford and maybe Leeds
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:18 pm

Quoting Mir (Reply 1):
Will there even be one Labour vs. Tory thread on a.net??

Come on guys, we had plenty of Bush/Kerry threads, feel free to follow suit.

I am looking forward to acting like a Euro and lecturing all of you on something that has no bearing on my life and I know nothing about.
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:21 pm

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 31):
Bollocks to it all

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RE: The UK Election Thread

Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:21 am

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 34):
Quoting DIJKKIJK (Reply 32):
How about the BNP? How are they likely to do? Any gains possible anywhere?

There was a feature on Newsnight the otherday, when they showed some immigrant Indians and blacks actually wanting to vote for the BNP.

They'll probably get seats in Bradford and maybe Leeds

No they bloody won't! It's very unlikely indeed that they'll win any Parliamentary seats. The odd council seat is the best they've ever done.

Extremist parties have never so much as gained a seat in British elections. Not one Communist, not one fascist. Ever. Even Oswald Mosley lost his seat the first time he tried to fight under anything other than the Labour Party banner.
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:26 am

I'll tell you something you don't see any more with this election.

I don't know if it is the same in other areas, but round where I live I haven't seen any posters or anything like that promoting the parties - just leaflets through my letter box.

Remember how you used to see posters in the front windows of so many people's houses showing off their support. Nobody does that any more it seems - is it because of voter apathy these days I wonder??

Just an observation - nothing more....
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:34 am

CaptOveur, whatever millionaire servant of big business you elect, does have an effect on us, and judging by many comments on here on US politics, and worse, parts of the US mass media, I'd say many 'Euros' as you put it, have a good understanding of US election issues, in particular foreign affairs.
Rather than the often Eric Cartman style 'comments' from many US members.

If Howard did win, there would still be problems with the US President, they are a vindictive lot in power over there at the moment.
Remember how Major got in hot water with Clinton over Tory help for the 1992 GOP election effort.
But as I say, the bunch over there are way more vindictive now.

The idea that Howard would have acted differently in the run up to the Iraq war is laughable, remember what a snake he was in government.
That does not excuse Blair however.
 
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:38 am

Quoting Banco (Reply 37):
No they bloody won't! It's very unlikely indeed that they'll win any Parliamentary seats. The odd council seat is the best they've ever done.

I thought they currently have 1 or 2 MPs? My mistake if false
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:47 am

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 40):
thought they currently have 1 or 2 MPs? My mistake if false

Nope they don't -only ever won council seats in places like Burnley, Oldham and Bradford I think.
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:49 am

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 40):
I thought they currently have 1 or 2 MPs? My mistake if false

No. Nowhere near. They usually lose their deposits when they stand. As I say, they have a few local councillors, nothing more.
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gkirk
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:57 am

Ok, my mistake.
Time to change flags me thinks anyway  Wink
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Andreas
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Fri Apr 29, 2005 1:48 am

AAAAH, Kirkie in Turkey Big grin Big grin Big grin, Sout East Anatolia, the paradise of shhep breeders, Kirkie in heaven  Wink
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gkirk
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Fri Apr 29, 2005 2:45 am

Turkey is a wonderful place...hot weather, nice people, cheap beer Big grin
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CON207
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RE: The UK Election Thread

Fri Apr 29, 2005 3:21 am

Politics... Bonkers!!. Still, I suppose some gullable idiot has to do it.  thumbsdown 
I ain't voting for any of the big three. I've had my fill of lie's from politicians over the years.
I'm gonna go for The Monster Raving Loony Party and vote for the Candidate named R.U. Serious. Makes perfect sense to me  Silly  thumbsup 
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