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Have You Ever Consumed The Flesh Of........

Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:36 pm

And endangered species?

Hey guys since it is my first night back offically after dispatch school I thought I would start the stupic question of the week thread.

The question is of course have you ever consumed the flesh of an endangered species.

Well if you go over to the thread I started about attending dispatch school in rural Alaska in my case you now know the answer is yes. I had the chance to try the blubber of a Bowhead whale.....AKA Muktuk.

Wasn't bad, tasted like salmon roe.

Anybody else, have you ever eaten an endangered species?
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Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:43 pm

Bear, Beaver, Goose, Caribou, Moose, Musk-Ox . . . . etc. The usual Alaskan fare of the woodlands.  Smile

No endangered anything, as far as I know. . . .
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Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:43 pm

Don't think so...

...Gemsbok Oryx is about the closest I've ever come to that.



Can you really think of an endangered species that'd be all that tasty though?
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Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:51 pm

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 2):
Can you really think of an endangered species that'd be all that tasty though?

The Whale reminded my of Salmon Roe, which surprised me.

Actually you pop it kind of like Tequila. You put salt on the web of skin between your thumb and forefinger. Pop the muktuk in your mouth with your other hand and then suck the salt on the first hand.
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Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:51 pm

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Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:52 pm

I've tried turtle meat in Fiji, many years ago.
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Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:56 pm

Spotted owl. It tasted like chicken.  Wink
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Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:05 pm

I don't think it is endangered, but I had buffalo a few days ago, and damn that was tasty.  cloudnine 

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Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:18 pm

Quoting L-188 (Reply 3):
Actually you pop it kind of like Tequila. You put salt on the web of skin between your thumb and forefinger. Pop the muktuk in your mouth with your other hand and then suck the salt on the first hand.

L-188.....well, I've tried many different things...but not muktuk!!!  eek  I must admit, I'd rather enjoy the Tequila!

I have eaten moose, deer, beaver & bear... although they are not endangered!!

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Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:15 pm

I've eaten many stereotypical plains animals...

Rattlesnake - tastes like chicken.
Buffalo - unbelieveable, way better than beef.
Antelope - kind of gamey, like deer but tougher.

And some others too...

Alligator - like greasy chicken.
Pheasant - awesome...and it was easy to catch too - just stood there and let me bash its head with a rock!  vomit 

And yes, I've eaten prairie oysters too - they are OK (taste like a steak), but kind of chewy
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Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:26 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
Beaver,

Heh... I eat lots of beaver.. heh  Big grin

Sorry couldn't resist



Spotted owl actually tastes just like bald eagle.
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Sun May 01, 2005 1:08 am

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
Bear, Beaver, Goose, Caribou, Moose, Musk-Ox

To all of you:whatever happened to eating the "traditional" meats such as chicken, cow meat, fish? I don't get it.
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Sun May 01, 2005 1:33 am

Quoting CORULEZ05 (Reply 11):
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
Bear, Beaver, Goose, Caribou, Moose, Musk-Ox

To all of you:whatever happened to eating the "traditional" meats such as chicken, cow meat, fish? I don't get it.

Hell, I eat beef, chicken, duck, pork, halibut, salmon, cod, trout, etc. also.

What is "traditional" to you, is NOT "traditional" others. Let's expand your mind a little.

This is Alaska, we do things up here like hunt and fish . . . it's called Subsistence . . . traditional Alaskan lifestyle still practiced by most people here, especially Alaskan Natives. Just like natives of South Pacific Islands, traditionally, fish is a large part of their diet.

The animals I list are all abundant in Alaska, and are traditional Alaskan foods. I don't prefer bear meat, usually quite tough, but tasty nonetheless. My favorite is a nice Caribou roast. Moose runs a close second. Beaver is gamey and greasy and takes a bit of getting used to. Walrus isn't bad, tastes like "fish"  wink .

Keep in mind that Alaskan natives waste very little, almost none of the animal taken. The meat is eaten, the hide is used to make clothing - best set of gloves I own are hand made Moose hide. Want something water resistant - use Seal Skin.

If you'd like more info, let me know - be glad to forward you some links.

Quoting Captoveur (Reply 10):
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
Beaver,

Heh... I eat lots of beaver.. heh

Sorry couldn't resist

Pretty damn funny . . . .  rotfl 
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Sun May 01, 2005 1:35 am

Quoting CORULEZ05 (Reply 11):
To all of you:whatever happened to eating the "traditional" meats such as chicken, cow meat, fish? I don't get it.

In some areas, bear, beaver, caribou, moose, musk ox, seal, and whale, is "traditional meat". The climate in those areas is not suited for raising cattle, poultry, and other livestock. They have to go hunting to get their meat, and in regards to fish, not everyone has ready access to a lake or river. Plus in a place like Alaska, the water is frozen pretty thick, and in the time it would take to cut a hole in the ice, they could have already shot or captured a land animal. In many cases, the animal serves multiple uses. The fur or skin is used for clothing, and the fat of some of the animals is used for various purposes. Goose is a "traditional meat"; people have been eating goose for centuries. Goose is very similar to duck. Would you consider deer/venison to not be a "traditional meat"? Early Americans lived off of deer, and today is still a popular wild game animal that is shot for its' meat.
 
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Sun May 01, 2005 1:40 am

Oooooh! Gator tail is gooood. I had some as an appitizer not long ago. It was battered and came with this heavenly dipping sauce. It was so tender and GOOD!!!!  drool 
I could NEVER eat turtle or whale though. I love these creatures too much. Also nothing I knew was an endangered creature. That's just wrong.
Buffalo? Is that endangered? Better than steak? How do you get buffalo steaks?

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Sun May 01, 2005 1:47 am

Quoting SWA TPA (Reply 14):
Buffalo? Is that endangered? Better than steak? How do you get buffalo steaks?

No, in fact it is being commercially farmed in the US now. The meat is considered healthier then beef.

The Bison I had, my dad shot circa 1980...He shot a young one, maybe a two year old, so the meat was nice and tender.

As far as the whale, the iniupiat have a specific exemption to traditionally hunt several animal species, including Bowhead Whales, seals and walrus. There are now however several limits on the number of "Strikes" a village can have a year. A strike is when you get a whale harpooned....doesn't mean it won't get away.

Actually in the past few years whales have been caught that have had stone harpoon points embeded in the blubber, indicating that they may live a lot longer then we previously thought, since those points haven't been used since maybe the 1860's.
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Quoting SWA TPA (Reply 14):
Buffalo? Is that endangered? Better than steak? How do you get buffalo steaks?

We can get Buffalo at our local Grocer - Safeway Grocery that is. It's commercially raised. And you get a buffalo steak the same way you get a beef steak . . . even the cuts are the same. Excellent meat.
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Sun May 01, 2005 1:56 am

Quoting L-188 (Reply 15):
Actually in the past few years whales have been caught that have had stone harpoon points embeded in the blubber, indicating that they may live a lot longer then we previously thought, since those points haven't been used since maybe the 1860's

Wow! Now that's truly interesting stuff! Amazing!

I am going to try and track down some buffalo here in Tampa! Cook it up and give it to my husband without telling him. See if he notices  mischievous 
What about ostrich? I have seen that in the local grocery store. Anybody try it? Any good?

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Sun May 01, 2005 1:59 am

Quoting SWA TPA (Reply 17):
What about ostrich? I have seen that in the local grocery store. Anybody try it? Any good?

There is an ostrich farm on the Island of Curacao. Quite good actually. it's been since 1999 since I had any. Not a very common food in Alaska.
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Sun May 01, 2005 2:08 am

I had ivory-billed woodpecker and chips just last night. Big grin
 
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Sun May 01, 2005 2:10 am

Quoting Backfire (Reply 19):
I had ivory-billed woodpecker and chips just last night. Big grin

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Sun May 01, 2005 2:36 am

Quoting CORULEZ05 (Reply 21):
One word for all of you: Savages

Eating meat is not a choice, it's an instinct! You know what the name for a vegetarian Native American is? Bad Hunter.
 
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Sun May 01, 2005 10:06 am

Quoting CORULEZ05 (Reply 21):
One word for all of you: Savages

We weren't born with canines to let them just sit there unused. We are supposed to eat meat, and I savor every minute of it. There is a very large difference between consumption of meat and cruelty to animals, one you don't seem to understand. Reminds me of the bumper sticker I saw a few days ago: "Save a cow - Eat a vegetarian." That reminds me, I think I'm going to change my signature.  Silly

As for the buffalo meat, it has become very common, and the one I had was in a steakhouse in Cheyenne, WY, where almost half the menu was buffalo. I think they even sell a buffalo burger at Friendly's back in NJ.

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Sun May 01, 2005 10:26 am

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 23):
As for the buffalo meat, it has become very common, and the one I had was in a steakhouse in Cheyenne, WY, where almost half the menu was buffalo.

Ted Turner is the co-owner of a resturant chain called Ted's Montana Grill that has buffalo on the menu. Ted Turner is one of the largest owners of buffalo in North America. I've had buffalo once, I liked it. It's like a leaner version of beef, you can't cook it past medium rare or else it gets tough and dry. In areas of the Great Plains, it is not uncommon to see buffalo on the menu at resturants. I remember seeing on the menu at several places in the Black Hills, but I wasn't exactly looking to try it at the time (I was 15 and very hesistant to try anything unusual).

I like buffalo meat, deer meat, rabbit meat (I haven't had any in many years, but remember how tasty it was, and I've even tried squirrel (Old redneck neighbors where I used to live at about 20 years back.).
 
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Sun May 01, 2005 1:02 pm

Quoting MrChips (Reply 9):
Pheasant - awesome...and it was easy to catch too - just stood there and let me bash its head with a rock!

Ok that's just WRONG. At least shoot it or something that isnt as terrible as smashing its head with a rock! (Come on, shooting it isnt nice either...but bashing its head would be much more painful for it). If you shot it in the head it would be dead before it knew what happened! That is sick man, sick.



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Sun May 01, 2005 1:13 pm

Quoting AA777 (Reply 25):
Ok that's just WRONG. At least shoot it or something that isnt as terrible as smashing its head with a rock!

the last time I shot pheasant with a shotgun they didn't necessarily die right away.. the smashing their heads with rocks is a good way to end the suffering.

If you fill them too full of shot you get sick of having to chew very slowly when you eat the little fuckers later.
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Sun May 01, 2005 1:20 pm

Quoting CORULEZ05 (Reply 21):
One word for all of you: Savages

I guess you'll just have to suffer with your waiters and 5 star restaurants and never know what you're missing AJBUS, errrr, Corulez . . . too bad you'll miss out on that facet of human life . . .
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Sun May 01, 2005 1:35 pm

Heh...had Kangaroo again last night, don't think it's endangered though..lol!

Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 26):
the last time I shot pheasant with a shotgun they didn't necessarily die right away.. the smashing their heads with rocks is a good way to end the suffering.

Nice...must try it sometime..hehe
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Sun May 01, 2005 1:57 pm

Ostrich/Kangaroo/Crocodile/Chamois/Possum None are endangered, but all taste great. Ostrich and 'Roo are my favourite. I love 'Roo steak burgers, and Ostrich is nice cooked up with a nice salad, some couscous and a nice sauce.

Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 26):
he last time I shot pheasant with a shotgun they didn't necessarily die right away.. the smashing their heads with rocks is a good way to end the suffering.

Wringing their necks is more effective, and less messy.
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Sun May 01, 2005 3:17 pm

Quoting Aerorobnz (Reply 29):
Wringing their necks is more effective, and less messy.

I couldn't look them in the eye to kill them... I just couldn't
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Sun May 01, 2005 3:21 pm

I'd rather strangle a pheasant than do this:



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Sun May 01, 2005 3:23 pm

Why, one or two stikes the seal is dead.

Strangling a bird, you have to look them right in the beak.
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Sun May 01, 2005 3:24 pm

Quoting L-188 (Reply 32):
Why, one or two stikes the seal is dead.

I don't know, maybe it's just something about killing something that cute.  Wink

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Sun May 01, 2005 6:35 pm

When you kill a turtle it screams for ages and actually physically cries. It's so sad, but it has now become illegal in Fiji, but lots of people still do it there.
 
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Sun May 01, 2005 6:38 pm

Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 30):
I couldn't look them in the eye to kill them... I just couldn't

I consider myself a bit of an Aviculturist/Ornithologist (I keep a pet parrot, soon to be more), but even I've strangled a bird that was injured - I didn't eat it though cos it was a blackbird....
it's not nice, but it doesn't have any blood unless you use too much force and snap the head off so I find that easier than smashing up the head. and bloodying up the place with brain and bits of skull. And you can do it with your eyes closed so it isn't as bad... Wink

That photo of the seal reminds me, can you buy seal skin apparel outside of Canada/places they kill them?
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Mon May 02, 2005 1:34 am

Well, not endangered, but I had a nice Zebra steak once.
 
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Mon May 02, 2005 4:44 am

Quoting AA777 (Reply 25):
Ok that's just WRONG. At least shoot it or something that isnt as terrible as smashing its head with a rock! (Come on, shooting it isnt nice either...but bashing its head would be much more painful for it). If you shot it in the head it would be dead before it knew what happened! That is sick man, sick.

It was on a survival exercise...one of the goals was to capture and animal and eat it - seeing as we were given three meals to eat for one week in the bush.

It was early morning on day 4...I was tired, hungry, a bit wet (it rained all week) and more than a little bit pissed off. I had screwed up my snares (they all broke, and I wasn't too thrilled at the prospect of eating a squirrel anyway), and there was no way to get any other kind of meat easily. Theis pheasant just wandered into my campsite blithely, so I grabbed a big rock and clobbered it on the head.

If you think it was an inhumane way to kill an animal, it wasn't...the pheasant died instantly (probably much faster than from a gunshot or from languishing in a snare for hours).
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