|Quoting Catatonic (Reply 1):|
Micheal Howard wont get in, hes Welsh AND Jewish!!
|Quoting Banco (Reply 2):|
Good job neither David Lloyd George or Benjamin Disraeli ever became Prime Minister, isn't it?
|Quoting Catatonic (Reply 4):|
David Lloyd George was born in Manchester and Benjamin Disraeli was brought up an Anglican!!
|Quoting Banco (Reply 5):|
Lloyd George was extremely Welsh, whilst Disraeli never denied (and why the hell should he?) his Jewishness. Churchill was half Jewish too.
|Quoting Catatonic (Reply 6):|
Well how would you explain labour not winning with Neil Kinnock as their leader? The conservatives were making a right mess of the country, its obvious that the British public werent ready for a Welsh leader.
|Quoting Gkirk (Thread starter):|
I can't imagine Bush and Howard getting on, as we all know Bush and Blair are good friends
|Quoting Gkirk (Reply 10):|
So no change in relationship
|Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 14):|
While nobody's expecting a UK withdrawal from Iraq or anything as drastic, is it not just possible that the message from the UK electorate that the war was a Bad Bad Thing might be heeded by the Labour third-term government in more subtle ways, resulting in a slightly more distant relationship with the Bush regime ? Also, do we know how Gordon Brown feels about the "special relationship" - he is likely to take over one of these years.
|Quoting Banco (Reply 2):|
Churchill and Roosevelt were hardly best of pals.
|Quoting NYCFlyer (Reply 8):|
Remember, while Bush and Blair are good friends, Clinton and Blair were even better friends, and political soulmates as left-center leaders. Clinton even campaigned for Tony Blair a week or two ago!
|Quoting StevenUhl777 (Reply 16):|
I recall how Clinton and Blair got on so well, but was then surprised that W and Blair get on so well also.
|Quoting Christa (Reply 19):|
Well, all this rubbish about Michael Howard not winning the election because he's Welsh is absolutely ludicrous.
|Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 20):|
He lost it because he is a vile old Thatcherite liar and was comprehensively rejected by the electorate. The only seats the Filthy Conservatives won were those where voters allowed the Tory Vermin to slip in the back door by voting LibDem.
|Quoting Banco (Reply 21):|
My, you're going to be ever so upset the next time they win, aren't you?
|Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 22):|
not if they manage to reinvent themselves and stop being chinless wonders only in it for the money. As of now they remain unelectable.
|Quoting GDB (Reply 17):|
Brown is pro American, in a distinct way, it's the Blue State, East Coast America, where he spends a lot of time on both business and pleasure, that he admires.