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Loophole May Allow US Crime Spree?

Fri May 13, 2005 12:01 am

This is an interesting article.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4529829.stm

Could anyone get away with it, or is it like the myth about being able to kill a Welshman in Chester on a certain day of the year using a bow and arrow?.. Or something like that.

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RE: Loophole May Allow US Crime Spree?

Fri May 13, 2005 12:04 am

Trust me, commit a state level crime,and they will find a jury..
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RE: Loophole May Allow US Crime Spree?

Fri May 13, 2005 12:10 am

If they can't find a fair and impartial jury, then they simply have a change of venue. This is not groundbreaking law.
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RE: Loophole May Allow US Crime Spree?

Fri May 13, 2005 1:40 am

A non-issue, I am sure there have been crimes in that part of the world that has gone to a jury.
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RE: Loophole May Allow US Crime Spree?

Fri May 13, 2005 3:06 am

dont forget we are talking about the USA here.......the country that likes to lock people up without trial!!!
 
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RE: Loophole May Allow US Crime Spree?

Fri May 13, 2005 3:13 am

Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 4):
dont forget we are talking about the USA here.......the country that likes to lock people up without trial!!!

As opposed to Russia which is internationally known as a bastion of freedom, liberty and due process!
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RE: Loophole May Allow US Crime Spree?

Fri May 13, 2005 3:16 am

Quoting Pope (Reply 5):
As opposed to Russia which is internationally known as a bastion of freedom, liberty and due process!

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RE: Loophole May Allow US Crime Spree?

Fri May 13, 2005 1:30 pm

Quoting Pope (Reply 5):

As opposed to Russia which is internationally known as a bastion of freedom, liberty and due process!

Not to mention north Korea where family members are guilty for "crimes" other family members commit just because they're family.
For example: if your grandson is found making a statement that he doesn't like Kim il Sung you are arrested as well for high treason and sent to a "reeducation" camp for the rest of your life.
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RE: Loophole May Allow US Crime Spree?

Fri May 13, 2005 3:01 pm

That's pretty funny. But I'm sure they'll use some sort of legal maneuver to mitigate the effects of that loophole. Like if you cross state borders after committing the crime then doesn't the FBI get involved? If so then it becomes a Federal crime and in Federal court I doubt that state level loophole exists.
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RE: Loophole May Allow US Crime Spree?

Sun May 15, 2005 4:50 pm

Quoting Flybyguy (Reply 8):
Like if you cross state borders after committing the crime then doesn't the FBI get involved? If so then it becomes a Federal crime and in Federal court I doubt that state level loophole exists.

Not exactly. The FBI may become involed for the purpose of locating the fugitive but they are not guilty of a federal crime unless they violate a specific provision of the United States Code either in the commission of the original offense or a subsequent offense. The FBI generally only gets involved at the request of the states involved if no violation of a federal law is involved. Usually, apprehension is achieved through cooperation of state law enforcement agencies or traffic stops that turn up warrants through NCIC (National Crime Information Center).

Just becase someone is held on a detainer (request for detention) from another state does not always mean that they will be extradited and prosecuted. First the states involved have to have a treaty with each other. Secondly, some states will not extradite for certain low level offenses where they feel it would not be worth their while to expend legal resources to litigate the extradition and actually send someone to pick up the prisoner. Here in AZ, a lot of prisoners that we have on detainer for offenses committed in other states are released because the demanding state will not extradite.
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