yanksn4
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Saddam And How Many Iraqis He Killed

Fri May 13, 2005 7:56 am

Does anyone know what the amount is estimated to be of how many Iraqis that Saddam Hussein killed while he was the leader of the country? Also, how many were killed in the chemical weapons he dropped on the Kurds and Shi'ites? Please provide a link if you can.

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RE: Saddam And How Many Iraqis He Killed

Fri May 13, 2005 7:58 am

So when is the assignment due?
 
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RE: Saddam And How Many Iraqis He Killed

Fri May 13, 2005 8:01 am

Well this is more for a debate I will be having tomorrow. I've tried Ebsco and Infotrac, but can't find any numbers.

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RE: Saddam And How Many Iraqis He Killed

Fri May 13, 2005 9:28 am

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RE: Saddam And How Many Iraqis He Killed

Fri May 13, 2005 9:47 am

Yanks-

Several Million... try google. I had over 380,000 hits.........

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RE: Saddam And How Many Iraqis He Killed

Fri May 13, 2005 10:06 am

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 4):
Several Million..

According to my sources, more than one million people disappeared, were killed or tortured. Not "several" million.

But the exact number is secondary, IMO.

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RE: Saddam And How Many Iraqis He Killed

Fri May 13, 2005 10:14 am

According to my sources, more than one million people disappeared, were killed or tortured. Not "several" million.

Help me out here.... 'several' million is greater then one million, but also unknown....so would it not be 'more then' one million...??
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RE: Saddam And How Many Iraqis He Killed

Fri May 13, 2005 10:56 am

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 6):
Help me out here.... 'several' million is greater then one million, but also unknown....so would it not be 'more then' one million...??

Estimates are one thing, but NoUFO is correct: the exact number is secondary. So many of Husien's victims were in mass graves or whose remains were completly destroyed the exact number is both secondary and probably impossible to ascertain.

Since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003, 300,000 bodies have been found in Iraq. Factor in the atrocities of the Iran-Iraq war, the atrocities of the Kuwait invasion, the supression of the Kurd and Shitie uprising in 1991, and constant terror killings... it's easy to image total victims surpassing 1,000,000.

I assume NoUFO meant 1-1.5 million as opposed to say, 3-5 million. Horrible and tragic nonetheless, especially considering the western world largerly fanned the fire or sat on their hands until recently.
 
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RE: Saddam And How Many Iraqis He Killed

Fri May 13, 2005 11:09 am

He killed not one single person. Saddam killed not one soul, he was just the one who appointed the death of about 1,000,000 killings.
 
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RE: Saddam And How Many Iraqis He Killed

Fri May 13, 2005 11:38 am

No one really knows how many were killed. Anyways, enjoy your little debate tomorrow. Set up those strawmen for your opponents to knock down.
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RE: Saddam And How Many Iraqis He Killed

Fri May 13, 2005 11:43 am

Quoting Airlinerfreak (Reply 8):
Saddam killed not one soul,

Oh bullshit on your semantics. What possible purpose you intended that reply to have, it only cheapens the deaths of thousands if not millions. There is zero place for that kind of garbage....

He was "just" the one who appointed the deaths of millions? That in every single solitary manner is tantamount to taking a pistol and shooting them in the face himself. How can you possibly try to make a distinction otherwise?
 
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RE: Saddam And How Many Iraqis He Killed

Fri May 13, 2005 11:43 am

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 7):

Estimates are one thing, but NoUFO is correct: the exact number is secondary. So many of Husien's victims were in mass graves or whose remains were completly destroyed the exact number is both secondary and probably impossible to ascertain. (snip)
I assume NoUFO meant 1-1.5 million as opposed to say, 3-5 million. Horrible and tragic nonetheless, especially considering the western world largerly fanned the fire or sat on their hands until recently.

Very true.
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RE: Saddam And How Many Iraqis He Killed

Fri May 13, 2005 11:48 am

Quoting Airlinerfreak (Reply 8):
He killed not one single person. Saddam killed not one soul, he was just the one who appointed the death of about 1,000,000 killings.

 redflag 

Here's my infamous bullshit flag again. . .

 redflag 

The referenced post, is in fact, so bogus, it deserves 2!

First, I'd make the bet he has killed - personally - plenty.

Second, it matters not that he personally didn't "pull the trigger" when the Kurds were gassed, or the prisoners were tortured, or the mass graves were filled. You can't vindicate the SOB with your cheap shots.
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RE: Saddam And How Many Iraqis He Killed

Fri May 13, 2005 11:55 am

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 12):
Here's my infamous bullshit flag again. . .

cute, very very cute....how old are you again???

Quoting Airlinerfreak (Reply 8):
He killed not one single person. Saddam killed not one soul, he was just the one who appointed the death of about 1,000,000 killings.

I agree. He himself has not killed anyone. Same thing goes for Bush. He is responsible for the deaths of all the soldiers in Iraq...same situation..they don't ACTUALLY do it but they order it.
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RE: Saddam And How Many Iraqis He Killed

Fri May 13, 2005 12:00 pm

Quoting CORULEZ05 (Reply 13):
cute, very very cute....how old are you again???

46, next question?

Quoting CORULEZ05 (Reply 13):
I agree. He himself has not killed anyone.

Once again  redflag 

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 12):
First, I'd make the bet he has killed - personally - plenty.

Second, it matters not that he personally didn't "pull the trigger" when the Kurds were gassed, or the prisoners were tortured, or the mass graves were filled. You can't vindicate the SOB with your cheap shots.

Damn I hate repeating myself . . .
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RE: Saddam And How Many Iraqis He Killed

Fri May 13, 2005 12:02 pm

Quoting CORULEZ05 (Reply 13):
He himself has not killed anyone

I don't think that's true. I believe in the 1960's or 1970's, he and the Baath party attempted a overthrow of the leader of Iraq during that time. I've seen documentaries where he was the one who stopped in front of the leader's car and opened fire on it, even though he missed the leader and shot one of his comrades.

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RE: Saddam And How Many Iraqis He Killed

Fri May 13, 2005 8:06 pm

He killed not one single person. Saddam killed not one soul, he was just the one who appointed the death of about 1,000,000 killings.


Sorry AirlineFreak- I've seen video of him shoot several people in the back of their heads.
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RE: Saddam And How Many Iraqis He Killed

Fri May 13, 2005 8:55 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 14):
Quoting CORULEZ05 (Reply 13):
cute, very very cute....how old are you again???

46, next question?

(snigger)

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RE: Saddam And How Many Iraqis He Killed

Sat May 14, 2005 1:45 am

Quoting Airlinerfreak (Reply 8):
Saddam killed not one soul, he was just the one who appointed the death of about 1,000,000 killings.

And Hitler was just a guy with a silly mustache who HAPPENED to appoint the murder of (how many million?) people. Saddam's guilty whether he pulled the proverbial trigger or not.
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RE: Saddam And How Many Iraqis He Killed

Sat May 14, 2005 1:54 am

Quoting Airlinerfreak (Reply 8):
He killed not one single person. Saddam killed not one soul, he was just the one who appointed the death of about 1,000,000 killings.



Quoting CORULEZ05 (Reply 13):
I agree. He himself has not killed anyone.

Might have mentioned this a while ago, but I know this Iraqi who left Iraq and came to the UK just before Saddam came to power. He's now a millionaire and lives abroad. His family didn't come with him, and stayed in Iraq (Baghdad to be precise). He supported the war by the way.
Anyway, one story he told me last year when I was staying at one of his villas, was that a friend of his brother's had some sort of plan in the 80s (can't remember the details, but something to do with microchips) which would make Saddam loads of money. It failed miserably and ended up costing Saddam a fair bit, and he was called to see Saddam. He was then shot twice in the head. So that's at least one person he's killed.

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