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Simpsons: America's Latest Military Quagmire

Mon May 16, 2005 9:39 am

Homer: "Where will it be? North Korea? Iran? Anything's possible with Commander Kookoo Bananas in charge."

I really like The Simpsons.
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RE: Simpsons: America's Latest Military Quagmire

Mon May 16, 2005 10:09 am

I think that if we broadcast the Simpsons and Desperate Housewives we'd have those commies licked in a month!!

That and maybe a lifetime supply of Hostess Cupcakes and Twinkies.
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RE: Simpsons: America's Latest Military Quagmire

Mon May 16, 2005 10:52 am

Quoting DL021 (Reply 1):
Desperate Housewives

Probably the #1 reason (Political BS aside) that the middle east hates us. I'm not watching it now... it's just to 'desperate' to me.. I loved EMHE, and will enjoy Gray's Anatomy!!
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RE: Simpsons: America's Latest Military Quagmire

Mon May 16, 2005 10:57 am

As much as I agree with the sentiments of the line in the Simpsons tonight, I'm glad someone else caught that!! I thought it sounded just angry and wasn't really funny at all. Just one of those moments in a telivision though that makes you cock your eyebrow and say "woh."
 
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RE: Simpsons: America's Latest Military Quagmire

Mon May 16, 2005 11:05 am

Would be surprised if that Puritanical FCC doesn't want to fine the network for it....
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RE: Simpsons: America's Latest Military Quagmire

Mon May 16, 2005 11:18 am

One of the interesting conflicts is at FOX. They have FoxNews, which clearly has a conservitive, pro-Bush, pro-republican bias, yet they have a entertainment, commercial TV network that is seems to make fun of Bush, and shows very 'liberal' social attitudes, disfunctional families, plays up sleazy 'reality' progarming and lots of violence ('24').
 
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RE: Simpsons: America's Latest Military Quagmire

Mon May 16, 2005 12:52 pm

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 5):
One of the interesting conflicts is at FOX. They have FoxNews, which clearly has a conservitive, pro-Bush, pro-republican bias, yet they have a entertainment, commercial TV network that is seems to make fun of Bush, and shows very 'liberal' social attitudes, disfunctional families, plays up sleazy 'reality' progarming and lots of violence ('24').

You do now that Fox News tried to sue Fox over an episode that mimicked Fox News' pro-conservative bias. It all went back into its own little self once someome pointed out the bad idea in suing another part of your company  sarcastic 
 
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RE: Simpsons: America's Latest Military Quagmire

Mon May 16, 2005 12:58 pm

With the amount of time that an episode has to spend in post-production, I take faith that the comment refers to the Clinton Administration and their folly into Serbia/Macedonia.
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Mon May 16, 2005 12:59 pm

You would believe that, L-188. But then again, only a fool would believe such a thing. You have no shame, do you?
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Mon May 16, 2005 1:03 pm

Nope, just like Lisa was wrong about the Coriolis Force and gun control.
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RE: Simpsons: America's Latest Military Quagmire

Mon May 16, 2005 1:27 pm

Homer dares to speak the truth, I have no doubt that starting Monday there will be a wide condemnation from the "liberal media". Hannity, Limbaugh, O'Reilly et. al. finally have something to distract people from DeLay's troubles. Homer is destined to become the new conservative whipping boy.

On another note there has been a lot said in recent years that "The Simpsons" has lost its punch. Tonight's episode (about Bart and Homer going Catholic) was classic, up there with the best episodes ever!
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RE: Simpsons: America's Latest Military Quagmire

Mon May 16, 2005 1:28 pm

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 5):
One of the interesting conflicts is at FOX. They have FoxNews, which clearly has a conservitive, pro-Bush, pro-republican bias,

What!!?? Where did you come up with that? You mean to tell me Fox is not fair and balanced?   <---  

Lately, Fox has been doing PR for the administration - and I watch Fox so I am not hearing this secondhand. Example, a couple of weeks ago the administration stepped up rhetoric against Iran (expect a war in the summer-fall time frame if history is any indication) - Foxnews runs a scathing special about Iran. Of course, Iran (IMO) was always the bigger threat, but somehow we got sidetracked. Anyway, about a week ago the administration started talking about how they would focus on marijuana use, not heroine and coke because marijuana usually led to that anyway and was more widely used. So, last weekend, Foxnews runs a special on the dangers of marijuana, how it is - in fact - the most dangerous drug. Of course, we know this administration has a history of paying reporters to tell their side of the story. If you doubt it google Armstrong Williams, Maggie Gallagher, and now a guy by the name of Dave Smith, talking for the USDA. Absolutely shameful.

Good observation, I always wondered how the talking heads at Foxnews, who are clearly conservative (mostly) reconciled the fact that part of the company they work for offers America such things as "Temptation Island" and so forth...

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RE: Simpsons: America's Latest Military Quagmire

Mon May 16, 2005 10:02 pm

Hmm, It strikes me that during all the simpson episodes I've seen, (there have been a few) George Bush has never appeared, although Clinton, Bush Sr, Jimmy carter, Nixon, and Ford have appeared several times. I alweays assumed the creators were too "scared" of making fun of Dubya...

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RE: Simpsons: America's Latest Military Quagmire

Mon May 16, 2005 11:17 pm

Quoting Thom@s (Reply 12):
George Bush has never appeared, although Clinton, Bush Sr, Jimmy carter, Nixon, and Ford have appeared several times. I

He did, sort of, in an episode where Bush 41 moves in across the street from Homer. The stole 41's glasses, and Homer put cardboard cut outs of Jeb and Dubya in front of the door. Great episode!

Back to Topic: Yeah, I thought it was a very "un-funny" useless line, really. Had there been a good comeback by someone else at the dinner table, it would have gone over better. Kind of another example of the difference between "satire" and "mean".

Quoting MKEdude (Reply 10):
On another note there has been a lot said in recent years that "The Simpsons" has lost its punch. Tonight's episode (about Bart and Homer going Catholic) was classic, up there with the best episodes ever!

Agreed. But when they have a "dud" show, it really shows. My definition of "dud" is where no one in my office, all huge Simpson fans, makes a remark about some great one liner. And no one has, as of yet. Last week had that wonderful line from Comic Book Guy, where he calls Homer, Nostra-dumbass.
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RE: Simpsons: America's Latest Military Quagmire

Wed May 18, 2005 5:38 am

I remember an episode where they think there's a ghost in the house (turns out to be that annoying Artie Ziff, from Marge's and Homer's high school). Homer opens the closet and says "No ghost, all I found is this old magazine from 1986 - Newsweek title: Why America loves Saddam".

Can't argue with history.....they where right on that one.

Here in Brazil it will be a while before we get this episode, but I must say I have to agree with Homer.

Hysterical when on the episode "Behind the Laughter", when the family breaks into a fight on stage, the narrator goes "luckily, Jimmy Carter came to the rescue with his folk break dancing..." and on to the stage comes Jimmy Carter and does a break dance move....classic.
 
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RE: Simpsons: America's Latest Military Quagmire

Wed May 18, 2005 6:03 am

I too am suffering from the "Simpsons are a few months behind" syndrome, which is why I've been using Bittorrent to get the latest episodes.

Also, gotta love the "I wish we lived in a place more like the America of yesteryear, that only exists in the brain of us Republicans"

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RE: Simpsons: America's Latest Military Quagmire

Wed May 18, 2005 6:20 am

Quoting L-188 (Reply 7):
Macedonia.

???

Macedonia is a different country. You mean what is now Serbia/Montenegro which includes Kosovo...

Quoting TriStarEnvy (Reply 13):
Kind of another example of the difference between "satire" and "mean".

satire by its nature usually is sarcastic ("flesh-tearing"), and is often not meant to be as funny as "the simpsons" is when making a political point (see definition of Satire in Wikipedia). satire usually is mean/contemptuous, "A Modest Proposal" by jonathan swift comes to mind...

sorry, i don't mean to sound pedantic, just trying to point out that sometimes if you're in political power, you should be expected to grow tough skin to weather criticism.

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RE: Simpsons: America's Latest Military Quagmire

Wed May 18, 2005 8:58 am

Quoting SRQCrosscheck (Reply 16):
Quoting L-188 (Reply 7):
Macedonia.

???

Macedonia is a different country. You mean what is now Serbia/Montenegro which includes Kosovo...

Actually the US Army did deploy units to Macedonia and Albania to support Servian/Montenegro operations during that time period. Add to that the US ran a MASH in Kosovo for a few years prior.
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RE: Simpsons: America's Latest Military Quagmire

Thu May 19, 2005 1:43 am

Quoting SRQCrosscheck (Reply 16):
sorry, I don't mean to sound pedantic, just trying to point out that sometimes if you're in political power, you should be expected to grow tough skin to weather criticism.

Agreed. But there comes a time when it just starts to sound like "meanness" or even better "sour grapes". Look, we K-N-O-W that Hollywood show-biz types hate the war...

I love good political satire. Mark Russell would be a Comedy God if more folks "got it"...(And he gets funned-on in a great Simpson's episode, too!)
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RE: Simpsons: America's Latest Military Quagmire

Thu May 19, 2005 2:00 am

Well, all what I need to know is that Springfield Mayor is a Democrat, and that his motto is "Corruptus in Extremis" Enough said! bigthumbsup 
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RE: Simpsons: America's Latest Military Quagmire

Thu May 19, 2005 2:03 am

Quoting L-188 (Reply 7):
With the amount of time that an episode has to spend in post-production, I take faith that the comment refers to the Clinton Administration and their folly into Serbia/Macedonia.

you think that an episode spends 6 years in post production?! you are -so- wrong, it's not even funny.

the Simpson's production team is so damn good at what they do, they could easily go back and change a good 2-3 minute segment in one of their episodes and have it stacked and ready to go within a week if they wanted to.

South Park took all of a week to get an episode devoted to the death of Terri Schiavo and the overall case on the air after she died. they had it signed, sealed, delivered and in the bag within a month at most, and were just waiting for her to die after the tube got pulled.

Quoting L-188 (Reply 9):
Nope, just like Lisa was wrong about the Coriolis Force and gun control.

so you think. it went right over the heads of people like you.
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