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So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:59 pm

From the crazy Fundamentalist campus of Bob Jones University ( or "BJ U"), I am proud to bring you some "highlights" from the Rules of the Road, pardner:

*no New Age, jazz, rock or country music is permitted. No Contemporary Christian (!!) music is permitted.

* no Abercrombie & Fitch clothing (as they have "shown an unusual degree of antagonism to the name of Christ, and an unusual display of wickedness in their promotions."

* residence hall students may not attend movie theaters nor can they watch any videos above a "G" rating (strangely enough, students may bring guns onto campus, although they must be stored with trigger locks).

http://www.bju.edu/prospective/expect/index.html

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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:04 pm

Love this one:

require a chaperon when students date or interact in a mixed group off campus.

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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:47 pm

Well, I think I've laughed enough for one day.   

Thanks for sharing that.

EDIT: I didn't know that Bob Jones University had an aviation program! A missionary aviation program, but an aviation program no less.

Where else can you study both Commercial Flight Maneuvers and Pulpit Speech in junior year?

Is that place absolutely nuts or what?

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[Edited 2005-06-08 12:53:30]
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:57 pm

Who will want to study in this funny farm anyway?  crazy 

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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:59 pm

Haha ! Poor sad God-fascists - one day they'll catch up with the rest of the world.
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:27 pm

Quoting Mir (Reply 2):
Is that place absolutely nuts or what?

No no, it is absolutely nuts and one of the shameful "highlights" of my home state. Other interesting factoids:

-Residents are 5 to a room and are encouraged to inform on a roommate if s/he exhibits "unGodly" behavior
-All Internet access is screened and MANY websites blocked. Further, all e-mail is read by censors
-On those chaperoned dates, no physical contact is permitted, not even holding hands
-Men and women walk on separate sidewalks
-The Biology Department only teaches "Creation Science"

The place is an absolute nuthouse and I know of very few who take it seriously.

[Edited 2005-06-08 15:40:52]
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:38 pm

Even within the Christian community, we find BJU's ideals and rules quite extreme without tangible biblical foundation. It's embarrassing and sad to see.
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:39 pm

Loyalty to Christ results in separated living. Dishonesty, lewdness, sensual behavior, adultery, homosexuality, sexual perversion of any kind, pornography, illegal use of drugs, and drunkenness all are clearly condemned by God's Word and prohibited here. Further, we believe that biblical principles preclude gambling, dancing, and the beverage use of alcohol.

(...)

* Hair must be cut in a traditional, conservative style–not shaved, spiked, tangled, or shelved. It may not be colored or highlighted.
* Sideburns should not extend past the middle of the ear. Men are expected to remain clean-shaven.
* Necklaces, earrings, and bracelets are not permitted.
* Hats may not be worn indoors except in the gym.
* Men are not permitted to get tattoos or wear body piercings.

(...)

Physics syllabus:

Modern Physics This course investigates the elementary structure of matter, Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity, the nature of radioactivity, and the issues involved in estimating the age of the earth

Loyalty to Christ results in separated living. Dishonesty, lewdness, sensual behavior, adultery, homosexuality, sexual perversion of any kind, pornography, illegal use of drugs, and drunkenness all are clearly condemned by God's Word and prohibited here. Further, we believe that biblical principles preclude gambling, dancing, and the beverage use of alcohol.


Is this a joke? What a pathetic excuse for a place of learning.
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:40 pm

Quoting Garnetpalmetto (Reply 5):
-Men and women walk on separate sidewalks

Are you f&$@ing serious????????  Wow!

I thought segregation was illegal. I guess "seperate but equal doesn't work" was one of those activist Supreme Court justice things.  Yeah sure

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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:02 pm

Quoting Mir (Reply 2):
A missionary aviation program, but an aviation program no less.

It's the only Missionary position they allow on campus.  Big grin

This is the official brainwashing institution of the far-out religious right, so what do you expect?

Isn't Bob Jones University one of the places Bush made a key speech in SC in '00? You know-in the primary where his low-life attack dogs smeared John McCain? (Remember that man of honor and integrity, SFOMEX, DL021?).
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:12 pm

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 7):
Dishonesty, lewdness, sensual behavior, adultery, homosexuality, sexual perversion of any kind, pornography, illegal use of drugs, and drunkenness all are clearly condemned by God's Word and prohibited here. Further, we believe that biblical principles preclude gambling, dancing, and the beverage use of alcohol.

Anyone sees all that on a daily basis when they attend college.


  • Residence hall students may not watch videos above a G rating when visiting homes in town and may not attend movie theaters
  • All weapons must be turned in for storage. Trigger locks are required for pistols.

    Priorities... spin 
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:17 pm

R-rated movies aren't allowed, but bring weapons on campus. Good little neocons, good little neocons.
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:17 pm

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 9):
It's the only Missionary position they allow on campus.

Ouch!  biggrin 



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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:30 pm

This my friends is the breeding ground (so to speak) of the next generation of bible-thumping facists, seeking to impose their "filtered" values on the rest of society. As far as I'm concerned, a big wall should be erected around them and they should be allowed to play out their so-called 'Christian' fantasy life to their hearts content, without infecting the rest of the population.
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:31 pm

Quoting Mir (Reply 8):
I thought segregation was illegal. I guess "seperate but equal doesn't work" was one of those activist Supreme Court justice things.

Not the same thing, Mir. As long as a school isn't publicly supported, it can provide "separate but equal" services based on gender. Publicly-funded schools, meanwhile, can also have single-gender dorms and such as long as they also provide co-ed facilities. For instance, my alma mater, the University of South Carolina, is a publicly funded university. It has 25 residence halls. Of those, 5 are women only, 3 are men only, and 17 co-ed. At any rate, since Bob Jones isn't publicly funded, it can do precisely that.

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 9):
Isn't Bob Jones University one of the places Bush made a key speech in SC in '00? You know-in the primary where his low-life attack dogs smeared John McCain?



It is indeed, Falcon. Bush caught heat on that one when Bob Jones's policy of banning interracial dating (since repealed) came to light as well as their view that Catholicism is a Satanic cult. And yes, SC is precisely where the Bushies, led by Karl Rove, smeared John McCain through their push-polling.

Oh and P.S. - they also operate an elementary school, junior high school, and high school on their campus.  no 

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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:40 pm

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 11):
R-rated movies aren't allowed, but bring weapons on campus. Good little neocons, good little neocons.

Sh!t PG movies aren't even allowed!!!

Movies BAD, Guns OK

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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:42 pm

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 16):
Movies BAD, Guns OK

Well of COURSE you need the guns - to protect you from the liberal commie pinko Muslim terrorist-hugging atheists when they attempt to invade your sacred, Godly institution.
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:48 pm

I can't believe places like this still exist but hey, it's the South.
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:50 pm

This Biblical fascist training camp also boasts the UGLIEST campus on God's green earth sandwiched between a highway composed almost entirely of strip malls and another road composed of the same.

The buildings are mostly made of cheap yellow brick and lack any architectural grace or beauty whatsoever. Across the street is a strip mall where they sell or used to sell Chick-filet (tasty !!) and a "magazine store" selling porn.

They do, however, have the best collection of Baroque art purchased at rock bottom prices after the end of WWII. The Museum guides are these cruisy clean cut 21 year old boys and it's all quite entertaining.
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:59 pm

Another tasty tidbit is that BJU is not accredidated by any of the major regional accredidation boards. Which means that their students are not eligible for any federal financial aid, nor do their degrees mean much outside of the uber-fundie Christian world. Though I believe that this might actually be changing.
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:04 am

Quoting DesertJets (Reply 20):
nor do their degrees mean much outside of the uber-fundie Christian world.

Bet they could get an internship at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave quite easy. They fit right in. You know-Christians who are Christian, really, in name only?
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:08 am

nor do their degrees mean much outside of the uber-fundie Christian world.

Yeah, but in Washington, DC, they get jobs as Congressional aides with the batallion of uber fundie GOP right wingers in Congress. Yes, folks, these non-A&F wearing, cleancut, gun-toting kids are affecting you !
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:11 am

Quoting DesertJets (Reply 20):

Another tasty tidbit is that BJU is not accredidated by any of the major regional accredidation boards. Which means that their students are not eligible for any federal financial aid, nor do their degrees mean much outside of the uber-fundie Christian world. Though I believe that this might actually be changing.

Correct, DesertJets. They can't get accreditation from a normal board like SACS (Southern Association of Colleges and Schools) because of their biology department so they're seeking accreditation from the Transnational Association of Christian Colleges and Schools which has accredited such fine institutions as Jerry Falwell's Liberty University
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:11 am

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 22):
Yeah, but in Washington, DC, they get jobs as Congressional aides with the batallion of uber fundie GOP right wingers in Congress. Yes, folks, these non-A&F wearing, cleancut, gun-toting kids are affecting you !

Why does that send a chill up my spine?

Just goes to show you that people that do not believe in dancing cannot be trusted.
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:14 am

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 22):
Yeah, but in Washington, DC, they get jobs as Congressional aides with the batallion of uber fundie GOP right wingers in Congress.

They also get jobs as Senators. Asa Hutchinson and his brother Tim are both Bob Jones alumns.
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:15 am

Outside DC though they would probably have difficulty. I may be wrong on this but I don't think BJU is accreditted by anyone or anything.

I probably sound more like a libertarian every day but we really need to return some powers to the states. Having clowns like this institution would create making decisions that affect all of us is concerning
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:15 am

Asa Hutchinson and his brother Tim are both Bob Jones alumns

And as vile as they come.

Is it no wonder.
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:23 am

Quoting Captoveur (Reply 26):
I may be wrong on this but I don't think BJU is accreditted by anyone or anything.

See above, oveur - they're seeking accreditation with the Transnational Association of Christian Colleges and Schools, which accredits 3rd rate seminaries and "Christian" schools along with Falwell's Liberty U.
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:23 am

Quoting Captoveur (Reply 26):
I may be wrong on this but I don't think BJU is accreditted by anyone or anything.

Well the leaders of BJU would argue that they are accredited by the only one that matters.
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:26 am

Quoting DesertJets (Reply 29):
Well the leaders of BJU would argue that they are accredited by the only one that matters.

Sorry, but I think God has higher standards than that  Smile
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:27 am

If they are not accredited, I feel really sorry for some of those kids who are attending this preposterous institution because they know no better, or because their fundie parents insist that they attend a fundie school.

They'd get a far better education at any of the State schools in SC.

And they could watch Star Wars.
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:33 am

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 31):
If they are not accredited, I feel really sorry for some of those kids who are attending this preposterous institution because they know no better, or because their fundie parents insist that they attend a fundie school.

They'd get a far better education at any of the State schools in SC.

Amen, Jay. Back when I was working for USC's Office of Fellowships & Scholar Programs, we'd get 2-3 students enroll each year at USC who left BJU for some reason or another and almost all of them thought that the teaching standards there were well above anything they got at Bob Jones. The problem was, they'd come in wanting to apply for these prestigious national fellowship (Rhodes, Marshall, Goldwater, NSF, Mellon, etc.) and we had to tell them that their coursework at BJU just didn't count. I know more than a few were pissed off about that and felt like they were "cheated."
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:39 am

Quoting DesertJets (Reply 29):
Well the leaders of BJU would argue that they are accredited by the only one that matters.

Thus they get into heaven! Big grin
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:41 am

Quoting Garnetpalmetto (Reply 32):
The problem was, they'd come in wanting to apply for these prestigious national fellowship (Rhodes, Marshall, Goldwater, NSF, Mellon, etc.) and we had to tell them that their coursework at BJU just didn't count. I know more than a few were pissed off about that and felt like they were "cheated."

And I'm sure Seig Heil U doesn't enlighten those students on the fact that their courswork there is practically worthless everywhere else.
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:47 am

Why is BJU not accredited?

Is it because they don't seek accreditation by a non-fundie source? Or is it because their standards are so awful, they can't get it?
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:51 am

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 35):
Why is BJU not accredited?

Is it because they don't seek accreditation by a non-fundie source? Or is it because their standards are so awful, they can't get it?

I would imagine both. They don't seek it, because they know they can't get it. They won't teach real science; they probably teach a very skewed history and Political Science-both with extoll the right-wingers of the world, I would think.

They're not a true university, where diffrerent points of view often come together-they're a place to indoctrinate people in far-right wing, fundamentalist Christian ideology, and nothing else. They're there to brainwash, not to educate.

SFOMEX would fit in pefectly there.  Big grin
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:51 am

I'm afraid, and I am only slightly reassured that the fundamentalist meme has not yet infected the majority of Europeans. Surely, somebody studying creationism will be laughed out of academia if they apply for a post as a biology professor. At least one would hope.
 
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:53 am

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 35):
Or is it because their standards are so awful, they can't get it?

The standards end. Read above - their Science Department revolves solely around "Creation Science" principles, so as a result, any reputable accreditation board won't have them. BJU plays that off as a "good thing" in line with their official doctrine of separation (IE "Godly" people need to keep themselves separate from the "Lost").
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:58 am

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 35):
Why is BJU not accredited?

Something to do with the fact that their science classes adhere to creationism, and not evolution. I guess the legit accreditation boards won't accept a school that doesn't teach evolution based science.
 
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Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:04 am

Something to do with the fact that their science classes adhere to creationism, and not evolution. I guess the legit accreditation boards won't accept a school that doesn't teach evolution based science.

Erego, the ruckus in Congress by such scientific visionaries as Santorum who are trying to gut evolution based science. BJU may be a nutty institution, but it wields a LOT of power. GWB will forever be grateful to it for providing a forum from which he disemboweled McCain's campaign.
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:37 am

It looks like BJU is seeking accreditation from TRACS, The Transnational Association of Christian Colleges and Schools. And looking over their website they appear legit, but the majority of the schools accrediated by TRACS are seminaries. Based on its located BJU should be accredited by SACS, Southern Association of Colleges and Schools... but it ain't.
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:42 am

Quoting DesertJets (Reply 40):
It looks like BJU is seeking accreditation from TRACS, The Transnational Association of Christian Colleges and Schools. And looking over their website they appear legit, but the majority of the schools accrediated by TRACS are seminaries. Based on its located BJU should be accredited by SACS, Southern Association of Colleges and Schools... but it ain't.

Isn't that what I said in reply 22?  banghead   Wink
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:44 am

If they want to be accredited by TRACS go for it, just stop teaching science to people who don't know any better.

If they want to be a seminary they should be a seminary instead of pretending to be a real university.

I feel sorry for the 18 year olds enrolling there who don't know any better, they are in line for a cold dose of reality someday when they realize they flushed a ton of money and 4+ years of their life down the toilet there.
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:45 am

And I thought Crazy Jerry's (Fallwell) university was strange.

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 18):
Across the street is a strip mall where they sell or used to sell Chick-filet (tasty !!)

Speaking of Chick-filet, why are they always closed on Sundays?
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:49 am

I did a project comparing and contrasting BJU with Howard Univ. Bob Jones has a fraction of 1% of blacks attending. I believe this years numbers was .06% black attending. For several years in the '90's they had no blacks attending there.

We found a whole host of f-ed up things they do. I am at work right now, but when I get home I'll see if I can find it. Some of it was funny as shit (sad). These are the kind of people with the 1920's mentality. Odds are they wear the white pillow case at night too.
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:52 am

"Speaking of Chick-filet, why are they always closed on Sundays?"


They are run by a bunch of Jesus freaks.
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:52 am

Quoting Mdsh00 (Reply 43):
Speaking of Chick-filet, why are they always closed on Sundays?

Company policy so employees can have a day off and family time. Rare in this day and age if you ask me.
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:54 am

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 46):
Company policy so employees can have a day off and family time. Rare in this day and age if you ask me.

I'd love to see the amount of money the lose because they are not open on a Sunday.
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:54 am

Quoting Mdsh00 (Reply 43):
Speaking of Chick-filet, why are they always closed on Sundays?

Truett Cathy, the founder of Chick-fil-A is a fairly religious man and feels that Sunday should be a day of rest, even for his employees who aren't religious. Cathy also once stated that "Our decision to close on Sunday was our way of honoring God and directing our attention to things more important than our business. If it took seven days to make a living with a restaurant, then we needed to be in some other line of work. Through the years, I have never wavered from that position."

Interestingly their mission statement mentions that one of Chick-fil-A's purpose is to glorify God as well.
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RE: So You Wanna Attend Bob Jones University?

Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:55 am

Quoting Mdsh00 (Reply 43):
Speaking of Chick-filet, why are they always closed on Sundays?

The peeps who found it are probably BJU alums. Seriously though, they're hardcore Christians. There's usually a sticker on the door, by the hours of operations, that says something like, "we are closed on Sundays so our employees can enjoy time with their families," or something to that effect.
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