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Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sat Jun 25, 2005 11:59 am

A pharmacist in a country town here has decided to stop selling the Pill, unless it is for a medical reason such as acne or difficulties when menstruating; or condoms. While I don't agree with his decision, I do admire that he is actually doing more than paying lip-service to his faith - people who profess to be Christians so often seem to me to be such hypocrites.
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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:16 pm

Old news. All he's doing is losing business, so what do we care? If he thinks he is preventing people from having sex he really overestimates how much the average citizen of the developed world cares about religion.
 
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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:18 pm

I want to say that Floriduh law prohibits such actions. People in the medical field not making the initial treatment decisions themselves have no right to deny care to a patient not matter how strongly they disagree with the manner of treatment.
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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:31 pm

I'm Catholic, but I will say this...more business for other pharmacists in this case.

Personally, the more responsible (and more in line with his faith) thing to do would be to dispense the contraceptives so as to prevent unwanted pregnancy and a potential abortion.

This is where my "basic opposition to abortion" comes from...most of them could be preventable in the first place if only we allowed comprehensive sex ed that taught abstinence and full contraceptive advice...gives people multiple tools in the tool chest...that's always a good thing.

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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sat Jun 25, 2005 5:32 pm

Quoting L.1011 (Reply 1):
All he's doing is losing business, so what do we care?

Damn right. If he doesn't want to sell them, plenty will do. I admire him too for standing for his beliefs.

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 2):
People in the medical field not making the initial treatment decisions themselves have no right to deny care to a patient not matter how strongly they disagree with the manner of treatment.

I don't think your description is accurate. This guy is not a doctor and he is not selling contraceptives, not exactly a matter of life or death. I'm sure other drugstore will pick up the business he's losing.
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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sat Jun 25, 2005 7:27 pm

While I admire the man for standing up for things he believe in, The world is so 'screwed up' now that it will have hardly any/if any affect on other consumers.
 
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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sat Jun 25, 2005 7:33 pm

I encountered this problem is certain rural areas in Ireland, around the pilgrimage centre Knock. Even pups, which elsewehere in Ireland have a condom machine in their men's room didn't sell any. The problem starts when this pharmacy is the only one in the village and the next one which sells contraceptives is outside the county, especially for teenagers, who don't have access to a car.

Also, in Ireland I was friends with a German family which had already three children. The mother, in her early 30s decided that three was enough, and went to the only gynaecologist in the area (at this time they were living in Clifden, Co. Galway, a very rural area), and the gynaeclogist refused to prescribe the pill because " she was still young and could still have plenty of children". Same problem, the next gyn was about 40 km away.

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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sat Jun 25, 2005 8:41 pm

Quoting OzLAME (Thread starter):
While I don't agree with his decision, I do admire that he is actually doing more than paying lip-service to his faith - people who profess to be Christians so often seem to me to be such hypocrites.

I don't admire anything about this at all. In this day and age, it's utterly ridiculous to deny people birth control. It's not going to stop people having sex and it will lead to unwanted pregnancies - and we all know what that means - the "a" word!

Religious logic strikes again!

Quoting OzLAME (Thread starter):
In case you were wondering, I went to an Anglican school and had to go to chapel twice a week.

No, I wasn't wondering. But now you mention it - what bearing does this have on your opinion? Are you telling us you're unable to be objective because of the kind of school you went to?

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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sat Jun 25, 2005 8:52 pm

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 7):

I don't admire anything about this at all. In this day and age, it's utterly ridiculous to deny people birth control. It's not going to stop people having sex and it will lead to unwanted pregnancies - and we all know what that means - the "a" word!

Religious logic strikes again!

I agree. It's a shop, for eff's sakes. Besides, don't the chemists shops have to be licensed by the government? If so, I would have thought they are required to conform to the government's established standards and requirements and not the Church's.
 
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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sat Jun 25, 2005 9:24 pm

There has been some debate on this in the USA. Some states have laws that prohibit a pharmacist from denying to fill any prescirption from a medical doctor. Other states allow for 'personal concise' denial. Some large pharmacies or those connected with major retailers, including WalMart, will not carry emergency 'abortion pills' in parts due to pressure from religious groups, as well as fears of litigation from potential users. Yet these same stores carry huge amounts goods made in the 'Peoples' Rep. of China, where abortion is rampant, used for sex selection, 'one child' population control as well as obscene levels of human and workers rights violations.
 
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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sat Jun 25, 2005 10:46 pm

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 9):
Yet these same stores carry huge amounts goods made in the 'Peoples' Rep. of China, where abortion is rampant, used for sex selection, 'one child' population control as well as obscene levels of human and workers rights violations.

Now now, we don't want to start confusing people with THE FACTS now do we?
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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:12 am

He should quit his job if his beliefs get in the way of his proffession like that. If it is his job to do preach while on the job...well  Yeah sure.

Quoting OzLAME (Thread starter):
While I don't agree with his decision, I do admire that he is actually doing more than paying lip-service to his faith - people who profess to be Christians so often seem to me to be such hypocrites.

I'm sure it just seems that way. Besides, who has the audacity to tell them how to live a true Christian life, you?  expressionless 
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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:39 am

Funny, As a shopkeeper doesn't this guy have a right to decided what he will and won't sell?

As mentioned before, there is probably a Protestant who is willing to take up the buisness he is turning away.
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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:50 am

Unless the only pharmacy close by is e.g. Walmart, who have forced all smaller competition in town to close. Or the next pharmacy is 20 miles away, like in the case in Ireland.

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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sun Jun 26, 2005 6:30 am

He should be stripped of his license. Period.

If your personal views get in the way of performing your job, you should be in a different line of business.

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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sun Jun 26, 2005 6:43 am

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 14):
He should be stripped of his license. Period.

If your personal views get in the way of performing your job, you should be in a different line of business.

I agree. He is living in a secular society and has no right to impose his narrow religious beliefs on others. I can only imagine the potential health hazards he has already caused with customers who are unable to access another pharmacist. Shame on this religious bigot.
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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:00 am

Old news, old thread. This theme was discussed several times before.

But I admire his attitude also.

Is he loosing some [just some, maybe a little bit] business? Well, is his problem. Not mine. Not yours. Just only think about a Jew who owns a business, who decide to sell only kosher products? Or not to sell pork because of religious beliefs? He also will be loosing some business from non Jewish customers also. His problem either way.

Is up to him. He owns his business, he sell what he wants. Not what others wants.

But once again, there is nothing new in this thread. Just old news.
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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:18 am

I don't mind as long as there is competition within the reachable area (also for teenagers, who don't have a car), but I have a problem with his attitude if he is the only chemist within reach and therefore forces his beliefs on others.

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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:38 am

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 16):
Is up to him. He owns his business, he sell what he wants. Not what others wants.

That's bullshit. He's not a general store shopkeeper, he's a licensed health professional. He's required to follow the instructions of doctors.

Many contraceptive hormones are prescribed for a wide variety of other "female problems". He could be endangering the lives of patients.

He should not be allowed to dispense medication.

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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sun Jun 26, 2005 10:20 am

Time we accepted the inevitable. Christian America versus the United States of Canada. Wake me when it's over.
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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sun Jun 26, 2005 10:43 am

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 18):
That's bullshit. He's not a general store shopkeeper, he's a licensed health professional. He's required to follow the instructions of doctors.

Many contraceptive hormones are prescribed for a wide variety of other "female problems". He could be endangering the lives of patients.

He should not be allowed to dispense medication.

Maybe in the U.S. he will be required to do so by law (I really don´t know that for sure. Is just a supposition). But THIS happened in another country (Australia).

If she needs such medication, she may go to another drug store.

By the way, how could you know that...

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 18):
He's not a general store shopkeeper


By the way is the same situation described in replies 10 and 12 at http://www.airliners.net/discussions/site_related/read.main/37909/

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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sun Jun 26, 2005 11:00 am

TACAA320 -

Well, I actually know for a fact that he isn't a general store keeper because I've seen the footage of the news report. He is a pharmacist exclusively.

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 16):
Is up to him. He owns his business, he sell what he wants. Not what others wants.

Well, he is bound by a code of conduct and licensed by the Department of Health, so I don't think everything is entirely up to him.

However I don't think he's actually broken any laws.

The whole thing is bloody stupid in my opinion, as I've said before. Some religious nutter, a relic from an era now thankfully behind us.

Anyway - the story was on a program called "A Current Affair" - which is about the trashiest and lamest tabloid "news" show on television.

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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sun Jun 26, 2005 11:23 am

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 21):
However I don't think he's actually broken any laws.

That´s right.

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 21):
he is bound by a code of conduct and licensed by the Department of Health,

Unless proven the opposite, I must say he´s conducting himself (professionally) according with such code. Otherwise, he will not be allowed to practice.

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 21):
The whole thing is bloody stupid in my opinion,

Like this thread.
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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sun Jun 26, 2005 12:12 pm

This crap disgusts me.

If you aren't prepared to do your friggin job objectively you need to find a new line of work. It is not this pharmacists business why this medication is being prescribed for patients, it is his business to dispense the pills.

These religious weenies need to quit forcing their views on the others. I think the ultra-conservative baptists we have around where I live are a bunch of ignorant fuckups who need to stop forcing their views on others (shutting down strip clubs, porn stores, etc), but I don't go around burning down their churches or telling them that. It is their right to be ignorant and they can tell me I am going to hell all they want. Just like this pharmacist should be dispensing the pills, he can know in whatever dark pit of his being that the woman is going to hell but he needs to just shut up and do his damn job.


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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sun Jun 26, 2005 12:46 pm

"These religious weenies need to quit forcing their views on the others.:

I call that "religious intolerance".
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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sun Jun 26, 2005 3:10 pm

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 24):
These religious weenies need to quit forcing their views on the others.:

I call that "religious intolerance".

Hold on, what are you reacting to, I'm getting mixed reactions from that. I do get the impression of a clash between differing freedoms.

Do you feel that as long as people are not allowed to force ideas then that, in and of itself, is intolerance? While Captoveur's 'weenies' comment may have been a bit over the top, why should anyone tolerate being forced to do something? Shouldn't it be by choice? If that pharmacist did not want to sell that is his choice, yes, and loss of business. But as a customer needing his items but being barried by his beliefs  irked ...um I wonder if he thinks there is a time and a place for his beliefs...I don't think it is at work. Definitely not while providing a service as he was supposed to.
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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:23 pm

"Im not gonna sell you Aspirin ´cuz according to my beliefs humans dont have head ache"

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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:42 pm

I'm a vegetarian. So if I take a job at McDonald's and then refuse to serve Big Mac's because I find it unethical, does that mean those opposed to my views are intolerant? After all, McD's could have me serving fries, right?

Bottomline: If you know the job description, and something about that description makes you feel uncomfortable - then for christs sake, don't take the job.

Whilst some of us could easily go to another pharmacy, a poor person may not be able to afford the transportation. There is no sound reason for upsetting the life of somebody else due to your religious beliefs. The rest of the world does not share them - so try and adapt where necessary.
 
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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:01 pm

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 24):
These religious weenies need to quit forcing their views on the others.:

I call that "religious intolerance".

So you think this pharmacist has his right to force his lifestyle on others who don't share his belief?
Let's say he is a a MD and Jehova's Witness and doesn't belief in blood transfusions, so he let's somebody die because he doesn't want to commit a sin and give somebody in need a blood transfusion?

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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sun Jun 26, 2005 11:17 pm

"So you think this pharmacist has his right to force his lifestyle on others who don't share his belief?" [reply 28]

I never said that. You did.

What I try to say is that the pharmacist can't be forced to change his personal beliefs[religious or not] by others. And that it's a different history.

Such history now sounds like an "urban legend". At least three times have been posted here. Always with the same results: Nothing conclusive.
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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sun Jun 26, 2005 11:33 pm

The stories about rural Ireland came from both my own experience and from the personal experience of a woman I know. No urban legend there. Somebody has a defacto monopoly on health care / pharmaceutical supplies in a region and uses it to force his beliefs on others.

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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sun Jun 26, 2005 11:39 pm

Quoting OzLAME (Thread starter):
A pharmacist in a country town here has decided to stop selling the Pill, unless it is for a medical reason such as acne or difficulties when menstruating; or condoms.

OzLAME, thanks for the post.

Well that makes a lot of f***ing sense!  banghead 

So what does he want people to make lots of babies they do not want to have, or is he just expecting people to stop having intercourse??? That's hardly going to happen.
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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sun Jun 26, 2005 11:41 pm

Any link where I can read the whole history? Not to be based only in "personal experience and from the personal experience of a woman I know...".

Can I see it in writing from the original source?
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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sun Jun 26, 2005 11:47 pm

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 29):
What I try to say is that the pharmacist can't be forced to change his personal beliefs[religious or not] by others.

Well I guess if he's a pharmacist serving the public, he doesn't have much choice. Sounds to me like he's better off as a priest or preacher, not somebody that people rely on for family planning and contraception!!
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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sun Jun 26, 2005 11:48 pm

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 32):
Any link where I can read the whole history? Not to be based only in "personal experience and from the personal experience of a woman I know...".

You call me a liar? I have been in village pharmacies in Ireland, in County Sligo and Galway, trying to get a pack of condoms, because my girlfriend and myself don't fancy to have an unplanned child, and have been politely told that they don't sell such evil things due to their beliefs. While you have no problem in getting contraceptives in the cities, there are still a lot of indoctrinated, backward people in the villages, under mental control of their priests.
I call you a bloody religious fanatic.
The majority of the citizens of the planet IS NOT christian and doesn't subscribe to your values. They don't even believe in your "god".

And the woman was a good friend while I was living in Ireland (though I lost contact after i moved back to Germany). I have no reason to doubt her.

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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Sun Jun 26, 2005 11:48 pm

Jan, alas it's pointless to discuss religious issues with the CRI. That's the Costa Rican Inquisition.

Back on track, I can understand why he wouldn't want to sell anyone the pill if he firmly believes it's wrong. On the other hand, he should look for a different job then. Doctors' and apothecaries' work has to benefit the patient before everything else, not their religious beliefs. If the patient has decided a(nother) child is not good for her right now, it's not their business to tell her not to take the pill; except for medical reasons, of course.
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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:22 am

"You call me a liar?"

Just tell me where. Because the first one in here [and only] saying that word is you. I just ask for a link where I can read the whole history. Period. Can you? Or not?

"The majority of the citizens of the planet IS NOT christian and doesn't subscribe to your values. They don't even believe in your "god"."

But zillions share my values as well believe not in "my" God, but "in our God".

" I have no reason to doubt her."

But I do. I don't know her.

Once again, I want to read the whole history. Not too much to ask.
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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:27 am

So what is not on the internet doesn't exist for you?
And in fact you are calling me a
liar.

Bullshit!

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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:29 am

In fact, this seems to be another urban legend.
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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:33 am

Taca, if I would openly say what I think of you, I would be banned. I wish we had a disrespected user list.

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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:42 am

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 39):
I wish we had a disrespected user list.

Hey, stop stealing my lines  Wink
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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:52 am

Quoting Barcode (Reply 27):
I'm a vegetarian. So if I take a job at McDonald's and then refuse to serve Big Mac's because I find it unethical, does that mean those opposed to my views are intolerant? After all, McD's could have me serving fries, right

Almost a valid comparison.

If this guy was a paid employee of a pharmacy or a hospital, I would agree with you. He gave up his right to follow his beliefs when he took the job, and needs to perform all the duties, and move the products the compan wants.

My understanding is that he own and operates his own buisness. So based on your example Barcode, If you decided to open a resturant, Should you be able to open a vegan themed one? or does the law require you to open a steak house?
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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:55 am

"Taca, if I would openly say what I think of you, I would be banned. I wish we had a disrespected user list."

Do you and FlyAUA think I really care?

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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:08 am

Once again. Tell me where did I say that verb to you?
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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:37 am

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 44):
Once again. Tell me where did I say that verb to you?

my pleasure:

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 36):
"I have no reason to doubt her."

But I do. I don't know her.

Once again, I want to read the whole history. Not too much to ask.

You say you doubt someone MD11Engineer says he can trust 100%. Therefore, you doubt MD11Engineer's truthfulness in this forum. That's calling him a liar.

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 38):
In fact, this seems to be another urban legend.

You say the story he heard from someone he can trust is an urban legend. That's calling him a liar.

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 32):
Any link where I can read the whole history? Not to be based only in "personal experience and from the personal experience of a woman I know...".

Can I see it in writing from the original source?

You demand written proof of the story MD11Engineer told, thereby claiming he's not a trustworthy source. That's calling him a liar.

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 39):
Taca, if I would openly say what I think of you, I would be banned.

Once again, let me warn you against TACA's tirades. They are the only thing that ever got me banned from this site, and he's very succesful at seducing other members into flaming.

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I wish we had a disrespected user list.

Me too, there are two users I'd instantly put on it.
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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:45 am

Taca is also rejecting my own experience of being refused to buy condoms in rural Irish villages. I wonder what the teenagers without access to a car do, if the next place is 20+ km away. No wonder I�ve seen so many pregnant teenagers or teenagers pushing prams in Ireland, definitely more than you will ever see e.g. in Germany or the Netherlands, where every supermarket sells condoms off the shelf.

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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:49 am

I still don't see that verb in any of my posts. Not referred to anybody in here. This is boring now. I will rest for now and until I consider it necessary.

Have a great day!  

[Edited 2005-06-26 19:53:19]
'Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind'. Albert Einstein
 
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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:01 am

Fundamentalist religious fiends of all stripes usually have their just desserts delivered to them in ironic and hilarious ways.

One day this Catholic pharmacist may end up with a pregnant teenage daughter clueless as to who the potential father may be.

Prior to the availability of contraception (and abortion), the subculture of hush-hush backyard alley abortions were often created by hypocrites of this stripe.

If this man wanted to live in his own religious bubble, he shouldn't be in the business of dispensing legally available birth control aids.
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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:02 am

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 47):
I still don't see that verb in any of my posts.

OK, you're probably not familiar with the concept of implicit meanings.

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 47):
This is boring now. I will rest for now

Far too kind...

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 47):
and until I consider it necessary.

Don't lose your marbles, because in that case you couldn't rejoin the game...  sarcastic 
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RE: Catholic Pharmacist Won't Sell Contraceptives

Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:02 pm

"OK, you're probably not familiar with the concept of implicit meanings."
Yes I am. And is not applicable here.

"Don't lose your marbles, because in that case you couldn't rejoin the game..."
Thanks for the advise. It was not necessary.  

"Taca is also rejecting my own experience of being refused to buy condoms in rural Irish villages."
Why don't you buy them in Germany and carry them with you. Sorry but I don't still believe this urban legend. And once again, it's an old one that comes up from time to time.

"Me too, there are two users I'd instantly put on it."
Do you think I care?

"Taca, if I would openly say what I think of you, I would be banned."
Feel free to tell me whatever you want! I promise that I will not be offended.

Sweet dreams...  Smile

[Edited 2005-06-27 06:07:38]
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