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Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:09 am

Pastor Fred Phelps (the man so whacked out that he got kicked out of Bob Jones University, who believes that "a good left hook makes for a right fine wife", who keeps track of how many days Matthew Sheppard has been "burning in hell") and his collection of Westboro Baptist Church nutcases (his cult of personality that worships in the basement of his home) are at it again! Just for once I'd like to see this drug-addled, hatemongering charlatan get his just desserts.



http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/WCVB/20050627/lo_WCVB/2795149
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:16 am

I would think having their picture posted on the internet while they are holding such signs would be enough; if you could CLEARLY see their faces. I hope their bosses see the pics and what an ass these morons are acting like and fires all of them.
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:17 am

Somebody outta round up a group of people down there and send these guys to hell.
 
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:19 am

Why are the police escorting them? They have a right to free speech certainly, but I wasn't aware that said right comes with a police motorcade?
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Fun

Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:19 am

Quoting Garnetpalmetto (Thread starter):
"a good left hook makes for a right fine wife"

ROTFLMAO... sorry, but that is hilarious and so perfect coming from a man of 'faith'.

Quoting Garnetpalmetto (Thread starter):
I'd like to see this drug-addled, hatemongering charlatan get his just desserts.

And what would that consist of?
 
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:19 am

sorry did I miss something, was the soldier that was killed gay??


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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:23 am

I would have loved to gone over the ripped their little posters to shreds..Smile in their faces...Then blair 'Hell Awaits' by Slayer as I drive away
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:23 am

>> sorry did I miss something, was the soldier that was killed gay??

Yes, it would appear so
 
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:25 am

Wasn't there a better opportunity to parade their ignorance other than someone's funeral???
 
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:28 am

Quoting Brettbrett21 (Reply 5):
sorry did I miss something, was the soldier that was killed gay??

NO, the soldier died in the war that America is fighting. America is being attacked alledgedly of America's support (what support? 70+% voted for anti-gay marriage amendments) for homosexuals and other things this man does not like.
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:29 am

Quoting WellHung (Reply 4):
And what would that consist of?

Hm...for once a good question from you, Hung. I'd hesitate to say anything too mean-spirited as that sort of attention is what Phelps thrives off of. I'd say for his platform to be taken away - for his congregants to realize he's a nutcase and to abandon him, leaving him just a lonely, embittered asshole for the rest of his dementia-stricken days.
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:32 am

Quoting Garnetpalmetto (Reply 10):
I'd say for his platform to be taken away - for his congregants to realize he's a nutcase and to abandon him

I'd like for him and his entire congregation to strap on their Nikes, head to Guyana, and drink the Kool Aid.
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:34 am

Then why take it out on the dead soldier and his family? What an appsolute bunch of dicks. Im not even religious but even I can see they're missing the point! I thought Christianity was about love and tolerance??
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:35 am

Quoting Brettbrett21 (Reply 12):
I thought Christianity was about love and tolerance??

So is Islam allegedly...
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:36 am

I'd say they can demonstrate wherever they want, BUT NOT AT THE FUNERAL. PERIOD. What they are doing is pure provocation.

I wonder what the reaction of this soldier's family and his comrades will be. I hope they'll bring some pick axe handles. Or fire the salute with rifles loaded with ball ammo into the direction of the Christian Taliban. I don't think this is what the soldiers have fought for.

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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:40 am

Quoting Brettbrett21 (Reply 12):
I thought Christianity was about love and tolerance??

Not to Phelps. Again, the man is completely in the margin such that even guys like Falwell have distanced themselves from him. Phelps believes that he's one of the few righteous individuals in the world and that those who are opposed to him and his beliefs are doomed to Hell. Further most would argue that he's not even Christian - some of his own children believe WBC to be nothing more than a cult designed to exalt Phelps.
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:42 am

What really pisses me off is all those so-called "Christians" who refuse to denounce this sick fu**!! I'm talking about the "good" people who read the Bible, got to church every Sunday, rail against homosexuality, abortion and other evils. Then when somebody like Phelps shows their head, or another person advocates bombing abortion clinics they sit on their hands and whistle like nothing is happening. Seriously, where is this silent majority? Very silent indeed.

No I do not believe that all people of faith line up behind this douchebag, but there is a serious challenge here to all devout Christians. Why is he allowed to speak for the Christian community unchallenged? Where is the outrage amongst the good, churchgoing folk? This has to change. Will anybody stand up to him? Falwell, Robertson, Dobson, anybody? Just like the President always says, either you're with us or against us. Well?
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:42 am

Fred Phelps is not a Christian. Westboro Baptist Church is neither Baptist nor Christian. This is a dangerous, brainwashing cult, like many others. While I'm not against the posting of this thread, and while I obviously agree that his actions are reprehensible (they're actually supposedly picketing against the Church run pastored by a friend of mine this weekend!), I just want to say that WBC is not a "Christian group!"

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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:46 am

I think this is a case where freedom of speech is being abused. To make that kind of spectacle at a funeral is insane. How far were they kept away from the ceremonies? I don't believe for a second that laws against trespassing and harassment couldn't be used to keep those pigs far enough away that the soldier's family and friends wouldn't have to have their grief compounded by the presence of the evil Phelpsians.
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:46 am

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 14):
What they are doing is pure provocation.

That's what he specializes in, Jan. This is the same guy that protested at the funeral of Matthew Sheppard (the gay college student who was beaten to death in Wyoming a few years back) with signs describing Sheppard "burning in Hell."
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:56 am

Quoting Garnetpalmetto (Reply 15):
the man is completely in the margin such that even guys like Falwell have distanced themselves from him.

When? Where? How? To whom?

Deep down people like Falwell are glad to have Phelps around, because he says the things they can't afford to say.
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:03 am

Quoting Brettbrett21 (Reply 12):
Then why take it out on the dead soldier and his family? What an appsolute bunch of dicks. Im not even religious but even I can see they're missing the point! I thought Christianity was about love and tolerance??



Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 13):
So is Islam allegedly...

Every religion has its loony fringe. What is sad is that the fringes are the only ones who seem to get airtime these days. Pity.

Quoting MKEdude (Reply 16):
What really pisses me off is all those so-called "Christians" who refuse to denounce this sick fu**!! I'm talking about the "good" people who read the Bible, got to church every Sunday, rail against homosexuality, abortion and other evils. Then when somebody like Phelps shows their head, or another person advocates bombing abortion clinics they sit on their hands and whistle like nothing is happening. Seriously, where is this silent majority? Very silent indeed.

Just what would you like us to do? Bomb them back?

Seriously though, acknowledging these daft groups merely gives them credibility. The game's no fun if no one wants to play. In other words, don't confuse ignoring a group with showing terpitude.

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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:17 am

I'm kinda surprised that no distraught mourner has belted this guy in the mouth yet. At least, I've never seen it documented. Should something like that happen, I'd suspect the police escort would testify that "he tripped and fell."
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:21 am

Freedom of speech only goes so far! Burn them alive!

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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:44 am

Quoting Garnetpalmetto (Reply 15):
Not to Phelps. Again, the man is completely in the margin such that even guys like Falwell have distanced themselves from him.

Yet, didn't Falwell pretty much say the same thing - that 9/11 happened because of 'mos? Or was it Robertson? I get all these Evangelical Fascists mixed up.
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:08 am

I wonder if they'll have the guts to show up if a platoon of soldiers from this guy's unit is present. I don't think that they will be nice to the protesters.

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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:00 am

You need to understand that Westboro Baptist Church is not a Christian church or Christian group. Calling them a radical Christian group is innacurate. Christians don't need to denounce this guy or group because they're not one of them.

Read this for very detailed, in depth information about them:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church_%28Topeka%29

And if you want a taste of what they do, go to:

http://www.godhatesfags.com/

These guys are a whacked out cult, plain and simple.
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:44 am

Several of his children have gone to law school, and are just waiting for the moment when someone physically assaults one of the group, or "takes away" their right to spread their hateful message.

I'm no fan of Christianity, but I agree with religious leaders that taking away their visibility would be the best revenge upon this group.
 
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:03 pm

I thought Christianity was about love and tolerance??

It is...is Islam a religion of terror because of a few terrorists?

What really pisses me off is all those so-called "Christians" who refuse to denounce this sick fu**!! I'm talking about the "good" people who read the Bible, got to church every Sunday, rail against homosexuality, abortion and other evils. Then when somebody like Phelps shows their head, or another person advocates bombing abortion clinics they sit on their hands and whistle like nothing is happening. Seriously, where is this silent majority? Very silent indeed.

Why do we Christians have to apologize for the five people in the picture? First of all they are not Christians. Second of all, this behavior is not common Christian behavior, and even if it is it shouldn't be.

The majority is not silent, they just ignore this fool, because he is a part of very small minority.
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:24 pm

From far across the ether of space and time, a voice called out to me. That voice sounds strangely like Logan22L, who is on self-imposed exile for awhile. He says that but WBC has been active in Massachusetts lately and staged a protest when a female high school student won a literary award for writing about Ellen DeGeneres. While he does respect the police officers for providing WBC their Constitutional right to free speech, I'm sure he'd like nothing better than to remove every organ from the above whackjobs using only a rusty grapefruit spoon. I...lost contact with him shortly after that.
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Fun

Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:44 pm

Quoting MKEdude (Reply 16):
What really pisses me off is all those so-called "Christians" who refuse to denounce this sick fu**!! I'm talking about the "good" people who read the Bible, got to church every Sunday, rail against homosexuality, abortion and other evils. Then when somebody like Phelps shows their head, or another person advocates bombing abortion clinics they sit on their hands and whistle like nothing is happening. Seriously, where is this silent majority? Very silent indeed.

What? Just about every single Christian in the entire nation denounces the hateful Fred Phelps and despises his "ministry" for the harm it does to the cause of Christianity. However, you're right that we could do more to stop behavior like this.

Quoting MKEdude (Reply 20):
Deep down people like Falwell are glad to have Phelps around, because he says the things they can't afford to say.

Absolutely not true. Falwell has no compulsions about saying nutty, off-the-wall things himself.




If Fred Phelps ever comes back to Meridian (I'm embarassed to say that he was born in Mississippi), I'll personally go down there and heckle him. But he's probably afraid to come back to Miss. People down here take their religion seriously and have no tolerance for a hater like Phelps.

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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Fun

Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:45 pm

By the way, what is IEDS?

AIDS?


And a nice quote from Phelps: "We don't picket to win people over, idiot. It's to harden people's hearts. Make them hate. Make them hate God even more than they already do."

Sounds like he and Satan might have a little thing going. To be honest, he reminds me of another "prophet," Joseph Smith, but I wouldn't dare tell my LDS friends that.

[Edited 2005-06-30 05:58:08]
 
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:59 pm

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 31):
By the way, what is IEDS

Improvised Explosive Devices - the militaryese for the roadside bombs and what not in Iraq
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:02 pm

Quoting Brettbrett21 (Reply 5):
sorry did I miss something, was the soldier that was killed gay??

No, he was not.

The city issued a 2 hour permit to this "organization". They have protested in other places as well. All protesting in similar fashion on similar subjects.

Quoting Garnetpalmetto (Reply 29):
While he does respect the police officers for providing WBC their Constitutional right to free speech, I'm sure he'd like nothing better than to remove every organ from the above whackjobs using only a rusty grapefruit spoon. I...lost contact with him shortly after that.

Wow! Etherial contact with you and Ian in the same day! Logan sure gets around!  biggrin 

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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:13 pm

Does Mr. Phelps surf gay.com like the mayor of Spokane?
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:24 pm

There must be some way to revoke these crazies' tax exempt status. Didn't the leader's daughter run for city council in Topeka or something? Couldn't that be somehow used to get Uncle Sam's hand in their pockets (and maybe sterilize them while he's at it so they can't procreate...).  duck 
 
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:26 pm

>> The city issued a 2 hour permit to this "organization". They have protested in other places as well. All protesting in similar fashion on similar subjects.

Ahhh.... it pays to read the article  Wink
 
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:32 pm

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 23):
Freedom of speech only goes so far! Burn them alive!

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Really cute, 777. How you managed to come up with the idea that I want all judicial systems gone, simply because I have no sympathy for a rapist who was murdered, is beyond me.

Oh wait, maybe it's not beyond me.

Perhaps it's just another example of you translating somebody's words so they fit to what you think that person really wants.

I mean, you must know what they want better than they do, right? You know it all, don't you?

 Yeah sure

And BTW, what the hell does freedom of speech have to do with the case we were argueing over?



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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:40 pm

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 37):
what the hell does freedom of speech have to do with the case we were argueing over?

Well, they were exercising that right. Agree or disagree - and I vehemently disagree.

That said, someone I know has said "the greatest test of freedom of speech comes when you have to bite your tongue and check your anger at someone who says or does something with which you totally, completely disagree. That is the strength of a free society . . . "

Now speaking for myself, I agree with that. Further, it would pain me to no end to have been one of the officers escorting that group of mongrels, but I swore an oath - and just because I don't like you or what you stand for doesn't mean I can allow that oath to be dismissed. Kudos to the cops who had to deal with that shit.
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:47 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 38):
Well, they were exercising that right. Agree or disagree - and I vehemently disagree.

Oh yeah I know, but I was speaking of the case about the rapist who was killed by his victim's murder.




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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:57 pm

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 39):
Oh yeah I know, but I was speaking of the case about the rapist who was killed by his victim's murder.

Ahh, my bad.

Good call for the Mom. Screw that guy.
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:05 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 40):
Ahh, my bad.

Good call for the Mom. Screw that guy.

Definitely agreed. Hopefully he's still burning if ya get my grip.  

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Oh my ANCflyer, now I just realized that you also want to abolish any and every type of government judicial system, right? You must want time to rewind to hundreds of years ago, where it was every criminal, heck, every man for himself.

That's horrible

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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:11 pm

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 3):
Why are the police escorting them? They have a right to free speech certainly, but I wasn't aware that said right comes with a police motorcade?

The cops have to defend these people or else they'd get pummeled by the public. The KKK and other such groups also get police protection.

Quoting MKEdude (Reply 20):
Deep down people like Falwell are glad to have Phelps around, because he says the things they can't afford to say.

Also, because it makes Falwell not look so bad. Falwell is practically mainstream compared to Phelps.

As an intersting aside, Phelps' daughter, Shirley Phelps-Roper, ran for a Topeka City Council seat against an open lesbian last November. Obviously, daddy got involved and protested all over the place. The lesbian won.  Wink

Here is a picture of Shirley Phelps holding a "thank God for 9/11 sign." What a waste of oxygen.

http://www.reachm.com/amstreet/archi.../2005/03/08/god-hates-fred-phelps/
 
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:44 pm

Quoting Garnetpalmetto (Reply 29):
From far across the ether of space and time, a voice called out to me. That voice sounds strangely like Logan22L, who is on self-imposed exile for awhile



Quoting Garnetpalmetto (Reply 29):
I...lost contact with him shortly after that

Who knew you were such a medium, Garnet. Ether of space and time ? More like baked-bean-induced gas  Smile Tell him to stay away from the bright light !
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:37 pm

Reading the Wikipedia article, I think that Phelps is also a scam artist, especially concerning his tax breaks as a "religious institution". I would suggest to remove all tax breaks and let him pay full.

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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:51 pm

Why doesnt this Phelps and his bunch of incest litter go after the pedophile priests, or is that to close to comfort?

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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:54 pm

Quoting Brettbrett21 (Reply 12):
Christianity was about love and tolerance??

When people focus on the letter of the bible instead of the spirit, love and tolerance often take a back seat to hate and ignorance. Polls show that the US is a country full of Christians, and yet it doesn't feel very Christian at all to me.

Quoting MKEdude (Reply 16):
What really pisses me off is all those so-called "Christians" who refuse to denounce this sick fu**!!

This bothers me as well. Certainly not all Christians are in the Falwell/Roberts/Phelps crowd, but you'd never know it since those are the folks who seem to get all the attention.

Quoting MKEdude (Reply 20):
Deep down people like Falwell are glad to have Phelps around, because he says the things they can't afford to say.

Like others have said, I disagree with this to an extent. Some of the things Falwell and Roberts have said are just as nutty and harmful as something Phelps would say. Also, Falwell and Roberts have a much larger following than Phelps from what I understand, so what they say can have a much greater impact than anything Phelps tried to accomplish.

Quoting Ctbarnes (Reply 21):

Every religion has its loony fringe. What is sad is that the fringes are the only ones who seem to get airtime these days. Pity.

Agreed 100%.

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 24):
Yet, didn't Falwell pretty much say the same thing - that 9/11 happened because of 'mos? Or was it Robertson? I get all these Evangelical Fascists mixed up.

Their all pretty mixed up to begin with, so it's easy to get them mixed up when trying to remember who was saying what.

Quoting Tbar220 (Reply 26):
Christians don't need to denounce this guy or group because they're not one of them.

I would think that the average Christian faithful would WANT to speak out against this. Why wouldn't they?

Quoting Marco (Reply 28):

Why do we Christians have to apologize for the five people in the picture? First of all they are not Christians. Second of all, this behavior is not common Christian behavior, and even if it is it shouldn't be.

The majority is not silent, they just ignore this fool, because he is a part of very small minority.

Christians don't need to apologize for this. In fact, after skimming and searching through this entire post I can't find any instance where anyone (other than you) said anything about apologizing.

However, what really bothered me in your statement is your implication that ignoring radical groups is an acceptable and expected response. Ignoring radical groups until it's too late has been a prelude to so many atrocities that it boggles my mind how folks can still consider this a viable option.

Quoting NYCFlyer (Reply 42):
The cops have to defend these people or else they'd get pummeled by the public.

Well, I've seen multiple instances where the public was pummeled by police, but I can't think of too many where the police were pummeled by the public.
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:02 pm

Quoting Satx (Reply 46):
I would think that the average Christian faithful would WANT to speak out against this. Why wouldn't they?

Simply because (imho) this guy isn't Christian. Why apologize something that isn't part of your group? Why openly denounce or speak out against something that doesn't involve you?
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Funeral

Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:11 pm

These folks got nowhere near the funeral, which was attended by the men in
Staff Sgt. Christoper Piper unit. The police escorted them out of town for their own protection. Seems a lot of folks were informed they would be coming and decided to exercise their right of free speech to show support for the troops. Considering the "reverend" and his followers were greatly outnumbered, they were the group that got moved for their own protection....
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RE: Radical Christian Group Protests Soldier's Fun

Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:31 pm

Quoting Satx (Reply 46):
Quoting Marco (Reply 28):

Why do we Christians have to apologize for the five people in the picture? First of all they are not Christians. Second of all, this behavior is not common Christian behavior, and even if it is it shouldn't be.

The majority is not silent, they just ignore this fool, because he is a part of very small minority.

Christians don't need to apologize for this. In fact, after skimming and searching through this entire post I can't find any instance where anyone (other than you) said anything about apologizing.

However, what really bothered me in your statement is your implication that ignoring radical groups is an acceptable and expected response. Ignoring radical groups until it's too late has been a prelude to so many atrocities that it boggles my mind how folks can still consider this a viable option.

But on the other hand many Christians, also on A.net, expect the whole Muslim community to kowtow everytime some radical nutcase sets off a bomb.



Quoting KBOS (Reply 48):
These folks got nowhere near the funeral, which was attended by the men in
Staff Sgt. Christoper Piper unit. The police escorted them out of town for their own protection. Seems a lot of folks were informed they would be coming and decided to exercise their right of free speech to show support for the troops. Considering the "reverend" and his followers were greatly outnumbered, they were the group that got moved for their own protection....

Do you have a link?

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