lehpron
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To My Fellow Hindus..

Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:39 pm

I'm kinda relearning my own damn culture (again) and in all the combinations of our alphabet, I noticed we have no equivalent to the English letter "F"

My mom says she just uses the second stressed "Pa" instead.  irked 

How do you say phone, festival, fanatic, etc? We can't say F-words, so to speak?
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RE: To My Fellow Hindus..

Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:42 pm

You don't.
''tat will be pive dolar n pipty pive tzenst, sir.''
Quoting the fellow paqistani from my Chicago Laundromat.

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RE: To My Fellow Hindus..

Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:44 pm

Quoting AR1300 (Reply 1):
Quoting the fellow paqistani from my Chicago Laundromat.

Uh...was that Pakistani a Hindu?

Quoting Lehpron (Thread starter):
in all the combinations of our alphabet

Are you learning Sanskrit or Hindi?
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RE: To My Fellow Hindus..

Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:46 pm

Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 2):
Uh...was that Pakistani a Hindu?

Urdu.Whatever that is.But still, spoke in this way.Indians spoke in the same way too.

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RE: To My Fellow Hindus..

Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:49 pm

Quoting AR1300 (Reply 3):
Urdu.Whatever that is.But still, spoke in this way.Indians spoke in the same way too.

Urdu is a language...Hinduism is a religion...see the difference?  Wink
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RE: To My Fellow Hindus..

Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:52 pm

I hear.So what lenguage do these guys speak??

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RE: To My Fellow Hindus..

Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:55 pm

Urdu is the language spoken in Pakistan. India has something like 20 languages with a zillion different dialects. I don't think there is a specific "Hindu" language....but if there was one then that would be Sanskrit...I guess.
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AR1300
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RE: To My Fellow Hindus..

Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:57 pm

I get it.Thx.

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RE: To My Fellow Hindus..

Sun Jul 10, 2005 2:12 pm

As a Hindu of West Indian decent, my experience with language is a lot different than that of Hindus from India. The local dialect of English (it usually referred to Patwa) changes from island to island. You'll find words and phrases that are derived from Hindi/Flemish/Spanish/French. As a kid have a Trinidadian and a Guyaneese parent, it made learning the names of things (especially foodstuffs) challenging.

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RE: To My Fellow Hindus..

Sun Jul 10, 2005 7:37 pm

Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 4):
Urdu is a language...Hinduism is a religion...see the difference?

Hindi is a Language.
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RE: To My Fellow Hindus..

Sun Jul 10, 2005 7:55 pm

Quoting AR1300 (Reply 1):
''tat will be pive dolar n pipty pive tzenst, sir.''
Quoting the fellow paqistani from my Chicago Laundromat.

You pay $5.55 for your laundry? Looks like you've got a whole lot of Skidmarks in your undies  Smile !
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RE: To My Fellow Hindus..

Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:06 pm

Apology accepted Birdwatching, lol.

Actually, all the different accents and pronunciations you hear around the world make the English language an amazing thing. Apart from some obscure Scottish dialects that no-one understands - or wants too Big grin

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RE: To My Fellow Hindus..

Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:51 am

LOL @ Birdwatching! (at Andy's expense, of course  Wink )

Now, Lehpron, I'm not Hindu, so I probably wouldn't know for sure, but what's the Hindu alpabet / accent? I've never come across this one.

FYI, my friends Xerxes (a Parsee), Ruby (Jewish), Murtuza (Muslim) and I all talk just like our friend Sameer, who is Hindu.
 
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RE: To My Fellow Hindus..

Mon Jul 11, 2005 4:16 am

Quoting AR1300 (Reply 1):
You don't.
''tat will be pive dolar n pipty pive tzenst, sir.''
Quoting the fellow paqistani from my Chicago Laundromat.

You sure he's Pakistani?
Urdu being an amalgam of Hindustani, Persian and Arabic is replete with words requiring the use of the "F" sound.
I have heard Hindi speakers use "ph" for "f" sometimes (phool, phal, flower, etc.) depending on where they are from, but rarely do I hear Urdu speakers do the same.
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RE: To My Fellow Hindus..

Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:54 am

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 10):
You pay $5.55 for your laundry?

I had enough clothes to make my laundry every three weeks.
It was a Buck for each machine, and then 25 cents for 10 minutes in the dryer.And then those tissue-like thingies that give it a nice smell were 55 cents.

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 13):
You sure he's Pakistani?

''Pakistan, Tzir, Pakistan.Tat???it's fish, sir, it's fish.We like fish.Tank you, come again!!''
He used to say.He also used to eat these smelly fish thingy the whole day, with his hands.

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RE: To My Fellow Hindus..

Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:00 pm

Actually, What is going on? In Hindi there is "Fa" as well as "Pha" and "Pa".
I believe in urdu and Arabic they have "Fa". In arabic there is no "Pa", they use "Ba" instead. I Guess in Tamil there is no "Ba" and use "Pa" instead(in writing).
In Malayalam we have more letters in addition to the english ones(eg. "Zh" in Thamizh, Mazha etc.). I think in Latin the letters "K" and "J" are not there.

So, What is this Hindu language with no "Fa"?
May be it's because I am not a Hindu.
 
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RE: To My Fellow Hindus..

Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:30 am

In the Hindi version of the Devnagari script you use the ph(a) letter and put a dot under it to indicate f(a). Similarly you put a dot under the j(a) letter to indicate z(a).
 
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RE: To My Fellow Hindus..

Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:53 am

Hindi has an f, it is simply फ with a subscript dot: फ़. Originally, there was no "f" sound, but it became needed with new loanwords, like फ़िल्म (film).
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RE: To My Fellow Hindus..

Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:30 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 17):
Hindi has an f, it is simply फ with a subscript dot: फ़. Originally, there was no "f" sound, but it became needed with new loanwords, like फ़िल्म (film).

How did you get to know all that Mark? I live here and I don't! Shame!  Smile

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