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Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:31 am

For 70+ years, a sitting president has always addressed the nation’s largest minority contingent. Why not W?

Schedule conflicts? BS. In his 5 years in office, I am sure the White House has received many invites for him to do so, providing ample opportunity.

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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:33 am

Come now...we all know his schedule is packed with all those vacations to Crawford! He's a bussy man! He is the leader of the free world, after all. He keeps his days full pissing off the country and the world. Give him some time...He'll push some asside for the NAACP some time around January of 2008.
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:34 am

If you disagree with the present administration you simply don't exist.
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:41 am

Why go? Not to sound flippant about it, but if he's not highly liked by a group, in general, why do it?


Personally, I think he should.
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:54 am

Because a spoiled rich brat who always has to have his way and is incapable of compromise will hold a perpetual grudge against any group that hasn't supported him. Also, think about how he protects himself from everyone other than his sycophants in any public appearance. He's not going anywhere that he knows he'll be booed.
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:58 am

Quoting SATX (Reply 2):
If you disagree with the present administration you simply don't exist.

It is a well known fact, that wherever President For Life Idi I mean Bush speaks, he makes sure he is in a friendly crowd so there are no objections to his remarks.

In many events, you had to be a Bush donor or campaign worker to get in. Remember that there was an event were two anti bushies had to be escorted out.

In other words, If your not with us, your out enemies!
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:02 am

What would he say? What are his stances on the issues besides "they're evil!" "terrarists will never prevail" and "WMD! WMD!"

I really can't understand how anyone can keep a straight face when they hear him speak
 
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:04 am

While tradtional for a number of years for the USA President to speak at the NAACP National Convention, Bush knows it is a hostle, 'liberal', pro-democrat crowd that has a lot of grudges against the Bushies. Cutbacks in social programs, the War in Iraq that is killing a lot of Blacks that went into the Army to get money for an education, against affirmative action, substantial pro-business views...you want some more reasons for him not to show up to just get endlessly booed?
 
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:10 am

IINM, which I very well could be; he has spoken to them before... but declined (with good reason I'd say) several recent opportunities to do so again.
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:12 am

Quoting B744F (Reply 6):
I really can't understand how anyone can keep a straight face when they hear him speak

The same way I keep a straight face when Whoopi, Babs, Robin Williams, Chevy, and everyone else make asses of them selves, talking ABOUT Dubya.

I believe in respect, even when one disagrees with what you believe in. I have some very large differences of opinion about politics w/posters here, but I'd respect what they were saying, if I were in an audience, and politely listen to them speak, and hell, even clap when they were done. Not do what Chevy Chase did, and called Bush a f***ing idiot, at an awards program. Do it in private, not in public. Do it in the voting booth, and not on some TV show, where those of us who didn't vote like Hollywood did, don't have to be called idiots, or jerks. I don't walk around calling Clinton, or Kerry, or Carter f-ing idiots in front of my kids. Why? It's called respect. I didn't vote for them, but I have a respect for what they have done and attained. Which is a far cry from some others, we are supposed to admire....



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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:14 am

Quoting TriStarEnvy (Reply 9):
but I have a respect for what they have done and attained

I have no respect for someone who freeloaded off their fathers connections from college through the business world then played the guy next door to get elected when the only other choice was a robot. You can say whatever you want in public or private, this is a free country, enjoy it while it lasts.
 
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:18 am

Quoting TriStarEnvy (Reply 9):
Not do what Chevy Chase did, and called bush a f***ing idiot, at an awards program. Do it in private, not in public. Do it in the voting booth, and not on some TV show, where those of us who didn't vote like Hollywood did, don't have to be called idiots, or jerks. I don't walk around calling Clinton, or Kerry, or Carter f-ing idiots in front of my kids. Why? It's called respect. I didn't vote for them, but I have a respect for what they have done and attained. Which is a far cry from some others, we are supposed to admire....

You my friend are a rarity.

Most of the rightist media use every opportunity to call libs, etc. friggen idiots (can we say Rush and O'reilly just to name two?)

But, what does that have to do with Bush not being available to "everyman"?
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:23 am

Quoting B744F (Reply 10):
You can say whatever you want in public or private, this is a free country, enjoy it while it lasts.

Agreed! But why does the message have to be so hateful? Sure, you may have a valid point. I didn't vote for Bush 41, and I seriously doubt Jeb would get my vote if HE ran, but I did vote for Dubya, and I am just tired of having the airwaves overloaded with disrepect. When the Iran rescue mission failed in 1979, and Carter took full responsibility for the disaster, were the TV talking heads making fun of him? No. Clinton got some ribbing about some of the things he got accused of doing, but it wasn't a late night hate fest, with him.
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:26 am

Quoting TriStarEnvy (Reply 12):
and Carter took full responsibility for the disaster, were the TV talking heads making fun of him?

They didn't really exist yet, but Carter took a beating over that.

Quoting TriStarEnvy (Reply 12):
No. Clinton got some ribbing about some of the things he got accused of doing, but it wasn't a late night hate fest

Are you for real? Rush is still going after Clinton! The media had a field day, let alone the talkingheads!
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:27 am

If an organization's leaders called you every name in the book, blamed you for the dragging death of Mr. Byrd in Texas, and likened you to a Nazi or KKK member at every opportunity, would you make an appearance at the organization?
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:29 am

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 11):
But, what does that have to do with Bush not being available to "everyman"?

He ought to be. This is where the Republican Party is loosing out. Reagan is probably the best example of a President who could "connect" w/everyman. You felt he cared, even if he probably didn't give a damn. Dubya probably doesn't care, either, but he shore ought to make it a point to look like he does. I didn't vote for Bush41, because I felt he just couldn't care less for me.

I think that Bush ought to go and speak to every group who didn't vote for him. Let 'em boo. Go on "The Daily Show" and let 'em boo. Turn up in some lame ass skit on Saturday Night Live, and let 'em boo.
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:30 am

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 14):
If an organization's leaders called you every name in the book, blamed you for the dragging death of Mr. Byrd in Texas, and likened you to a Nazi or KKK

If the shoe fits.....
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:31 am

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 16):
If the shoe fits.....

Exhibit A.  Yeah sure

It'd be like Falcon84, B744F, Rsmith, etc asking Bush to come speak to them.
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:39 am

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 13):
Rush is still going after Clinton!

I can't listen to Rush, he makes me nuts.

But my point is, that the LEVEL of hatred in the ribbing is just tiresome. Rush and Savage and that lot have never (to my knowledge) called Clinton a f***ing anything, in public.

I'm not disagreeing w/you about the hate speak, I'm just saying that Republicans seem to be hatefully vilified more that Democrats.
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:44 am

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 14):
If an organization's leaders called you every name in the book, blamed you for the dragging death of Mr. Byrd in Texas, and likened you to a Nazi or KKK member at every opportunity, would you make an appearance at the organization?

As usual you're full of it.

The NAACP decried Bush for NOT SIGNING the James Byrd Jr. Hate Crime Act when he was Governor of Texas. Which he didn't (because of the inclusion og gays and lesbians in the bill's language). Reasonable people can disagree on Hate Crimes Legislation, but I doubt if Bush disagreed on principle.

And when did Mfume or Julian Bond call Bush a Nazi or a member of the KKK?

Quoting TriStarEnvy (Reply 9):
The same way I keep a straight face when Whoopi, Babs, Robin Williams, Chevy, and everyone else make asses of them selves, talking ABOUT Dubya.

They're entertainers and jokesters, not leaders. If you don't like them you can watch another program.

Quoting TriStarEnvy (Reply 12):
When the Iran rescue mission failed in 1979, and Carter took full responsibility for the disaster, were the TV talking heads making fun of him? No. Clinton got some ribbing about some of the things he got accused of doing, but it wasn't a late night hate fest, with him.

Excuse me? There were no TV talking heads back in 1979.

As for Clinton, which planet do you inhabit? The entire panoply of talking head trashmeisters - Coulter, Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage, Ingraham ... the list goes on - built their careers on late night hate fests on Clinton.
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:49 am

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 5):
In many events, you had to be a Bush donor or campaign worker to get in. Remember that there was an event were two anti bushies had to be escorted out.

Reminds me when Cheney came to Las Vegas several times during the election season (Bush came here too, but only to attend multi-thousand dollar-a-plate fundraisers, one time at the Paris Hotel & Casino, how ironic is that?).

Cheney came to give speeches at public venues. I tried to go – several times. Just to hear what he had to say ~ not to go protest.

Registered Democrats were verboten. Denied entry.

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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:53 am

I think the NAACP is nothing more than a special interest group, as much of the Democratic party's constituencies seems to be today.

But I think any president ought to seize the opportunity to speak to them. It offers an open forum to discuss the politics of race and really set a clear path for eliminating the race baiting that fills the mainstream media today.

But that would be useful if we had a president who could deliver that message clearly and forcefully.

Just once, I'd love to see a Libertarian speak to the NAACCCP and just stick it to them.  Wink
 
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:57 am

Quoting TriStarEnvy (Reply 18):
Rush and Savage and that lot have never (to my knowledge) called Clinton a f***ing anything, in public.

So the word f***ing is the basis by which you judge the level of hatred against someone?

Michael Savage has called Clinton a Nazi, Hitler, etc (who knows why?). He also called GWB a "f**king liberal" for approving $ 200 million in AIDs funding.
And you hold this man who uses racist, homophobic invectives on the radio as an example of decent speech?

As far as Rush goes, I havent listened to him in years. But, yes, I did listen to Savage's rants in recent years and they're sickening. Not only does he hate, but he proposes violence against other people.

Oh, and as far as the f-word goes:

"You fucking son of a bitch. I saw what you wrote. We’re not going to forget this."

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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:57 am

Quoting Slider (Reply 21):
I think the NAACP is nothing more than a special interest group, as much of the Democratic party's constituencies seems to be today.

Special interest groups and the Democrats? While that may be true, nothing beats the GOP in that department. Not even close.

Quoting Slider (Reply 21):
But I think any president ought to seize the opportunity to speak to them. It offers an open forum to discuss the politics of race and really set a clear path for eliminating the race baiting that fills the mainstream media today.

I agree

Quoting Slider (Reply 21):
But that would be useful if we had a president who could deliver that message clearly and forcefully.

And we all know this one can't

Quoting Slider (Reply 21):
Just once, I'd love to see a Libertarian speak to the NAACCCP and just stick it to them.

Libertarians are just Republicans who know even less about history
 
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 6:02 am

Quoting B744F (Reply 23):
Special interest groups and the Democrats? While that may be true, nothing beats the GOP in that department. Not even close.

You got that right.
The entire Christian Right (who have never given a single dollar to a Democrat as far as I know)
The Petroleum Industry
Big Pharma (I should know - I worked for them for 5 years, and we had virtually every Republican in our pocket).

But in effect, its but natural that both parties are an amalgam of special interest groups - the 2 party system pretty much perpetuates that state of affairs.
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 6:07 am

Quoting TriStarEnvy (Reply 12):
Clinton

Clinton is the laughing stock of a generation. Entire genres of humor have been created around his women problems.

Bush is a laughing stock to a lesser extent. But the difference is we will all live the adverse serious reactions to his actions. They are much greater, grimmer and MUCH graver.

Screw an intern or screw a couple countries – which is worse?

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 22):
Oh, and as far as the f-word goes:

"You fucking son of a bitch. I saw what you wrote. We’re not going to forget this."

- Bush to then Wall Street Journal Washington bureau chief Al Hunt in a Dallas restaurant in front of other diners, including Hunt’s wife, Judy Woodruff, and 4-year-old son, 1986.

W has a poo poo mouth, just like his buddy Rove.


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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 6:08 am

Quoting TriStarEnvy (Reply 12):
When the Iran rescue mission failed in 1979, and Carter took full responsibility for the disaster, were the TV talking heads making fun of him?

At least Carter was willing to accept responsibility for a failure, unlike W ("I'm sure I've made some mistakes, but I can't name any"). The economy and the Iran hostage crisis played major roles in Carter's loss to Reagan, and the failure of the rescue mission added a lot to the U.S.'s low morale at the time, and the perception of Carter as a weak leader. Carter took a comparative beating by the media during his last two years in office, but things were more civilized back then, and "all news" networks, with their desperate need for stirring the pot to keep up ratings, didn't exist yet.

As far as potty mouths go, you must remember this: Cheney to Leahy: "Go fu** yourself!"

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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 6:12 am

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 19):
And when did Mfume or Julian Bond call Bush a Nazi or a member of the KKK?

During his keynote speech at the group's 95th annual convention Sunday night in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Bond also assailed the Bush administration and the Republican Party, accusing the GOP of "playing the race card in election after election."

The party appeals "to the dark underside of American culture, to the minority of Americans who reject democracy and equality," Bond said. "They preach neutrality and practice racial division."

"At the 2001 convention, which was held before the September 11 attacks, Bond sharply criticized some of Bush's political appointments, saying that he "selected nominees from the Taliban wing of American politics, appeased the wretched appetites of the extreme right wing and chosen Cabinet officials whose devotion to the Confederacy is nearly canine in its uncritical affection."

"The NAACP is a nonpartisan organization"  Silly

"The Republican Party appeals to "the dark underside of American culture, to that minority of Americans who reject democracy and equality," snarled Bond, who later said he feared President Bush was "going to repeal the 14th amendment" guaranteeing equal protection under the law."

"The harsh words have become a tradition for Bond. Since becoming chairman of the NAACP in 1998, he has consistently used the organization's conventions to publicly proclaim his distaste for the Republicans. He's alternately referred to them as "neo-fascists," "the white-people's party" and "a crazed swarm of right-wing locusts" that have sought to "subvert, ignore, defy and destroy the laws that require an America which is bias-free." Bond opened the NAACP's 93rd annual national convention July 11 by comparing President Bush to a "snake oil" salesman."

"That's the question I put to Bond, who simply told me the NAACP is a non-partisan civil rights organization that just happens to agree with the Democrats on several key issues." (again,  Silly)

"Then, on the eve of the 2000 election, the NAACP ran an ad in which the daughter of James Byrd Jr., murdered in a 1998 hate crime in Texas, said that Bush's refusal to sign hate-crime legislation while he was governor of Texas was like watching her father die "all over again." The ad featured a horrifying image of a truck with a chain dangling behind it. The not so subtle message: Bush is indifferent to race-based crime. For obvious reasons, the ad did not mention that Byrd's attackers were found guilty and sentenced to death."

"During the contentious 2000 election, the NAACP fired its Colorado chapter president because he went public with his support of school vouchers. A couple months later it suspended one of its Virginia representatives for having the audacity to endorse a Republican."

"Their idea of equal rights is the American flag and the Confederate swastika flying side by side,"

Why *wouldn't* Bush want to speak to a group like this?
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 6:18 am

Btw, here's some race baiting by that beloved paragon of the right, Rush Limberger (that buddy of Clarence Thomas, Bush et al.).

Apparently, Rush is really pissed off that Ken Mehlman, head of the RNC apologized for the race baiting of the GOP's Southern Strategy. This is what he thinks. I assume that his zombie ditto head followers must think the same way.

From the July 14 edition of The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: President Bush skipping this week's annual NAALCP convention for the fifth straight year, but that's not preventing the White House and the Republican Party from waging a drive to woo African-American voters. Ken Mehlman of the RNC is going to the NAALCP convention, and he is basically going to tell them how the Republican Party of Abraham Lincoln lost its way with African-American voters over the years and how determined the party is to get them back. He said, "We can't call ourselves a true majority unless we reach out to African-Americans and make it the party of Lincoln. There was a time when African-American support turned Democrat, and we didn't do enough to retain it. Now we want to build on the gains we made in the last election."

Know what he's going to do? He's going to go down there and basically apologize for what has come to be known as the Southern Strategy, popularized in the Nixon administration. He's going to go down there and apologize for it. In the midst of all of this, in the midst of all that's going on, once again, Republicans are going to go bend over and grab the ankles. They're going to the NAALCP. . . It is just -- it's absolutely absurd.


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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 8:16 am

By doing this, he solidifies his support from the dumb racist rednecks particularly in the south.
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 8:40 am

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 27):
Quoting Jaysit (Reply 19):
And when did Mfume or Julian Bond call Bush a Nazi or a member of the KKK?

Once again, I ask you: Where did he call Bush a member of the KKK or a Nazi?

Posting Julian Bond's rather pointed comments on the state of the GOP over the past 40 years only goes to show that how clueless you are about how seriously racial minorities take the racism of the GOP. Just as seriously as they did the racism of the Southern Dixie Democrats who effectively became the GOP after the civil rights era.

You're a duplicitous person who it appears is good at hitting the keyboard and doing cut and paste jobs. A+ for your typing skills; F for content and failing to back up your statements.

As far as the overt racism of the GOP that Bond and Mfume refer to, perpetuated by its notorious and racist Southern Strategy over 40 years, they're facts proven over and over again. Jeez, even Ken Mehlman, the Chair of the RNC and John McCain have publicly stated that the GOP has appealed to racism over the years.

How someone like you may feel about the issue of racism is irrelevant. Selfish and clueless gay men whose lives will amount to nothing are a dime a dozen. But how the President of the United States feels is very important. If Ronald Reagan could address the NAACP, if Bill Clinton could address the Southern Baptist Convention, then GWB surely should have the balls to address the NAACP.
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 8:59 am

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 7):
While tradtional for a number of years for the USA President to speak at the NAACP National Convention, Bush knows it is a hostle, 'liberal', pro-democrat crowd that has a lot of grudges against the Bushies

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Quoting Slider (Reply 21):
I think the NAACP is nothing more than a special interest group, as much of the Democratic party's constituencies seems to be today.

I agree.The NAACP is a Democratic wing of the party.The NAACP needs to
break out of that mode and welcome all blacks! And stop calling Repulbican Blacks,white.Otherwise,the NAACP is going to die of old politics.

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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:22 am

Quoting Psa53 (Reply 31):
And stop calling Repulbican Blacks,white

Why should they? Why would any black person vote GOP? Do they enjoy voting for someone who wants to cut funding to the inner city schools? To public housing, etc?

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 25):
Clinton is the laughing stock of a generation.

Only a laughing-stock to the people who are so bitter they can't get over the fact he was still an extremely popular President even after the GOP witch-hunts
 
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:49 am

Quoting S12PPL (Reply 1):
...we all know his schedule is packed with all those vacations to Crawford! He's a bussy man! He is the leader of the free world, after all. He keeps his days full pissing off the country and the world.

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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:03 am

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 30):
Once again, I ask you: Where did he call Bush a member of the KKK or a Nazi?

Learn to read.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 14):
and likened you to a Nazi or KKK member at every opportunity



Quoting Jaysit (Reply 30):
Selfish and clueless gay men whose lives will amount to nothing are a dime a dozen

I'm sorry that you're one of them  .

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 30):
You're a duplicitous person who it appears is good at hitting the keyboard and doing cut and paste jobs.

Speaking of "lives that amount to nothing". You're in your 40s, bitching out people online, and your crowning achievement is competing in games that nobody cares about, in a sport nobody watches? Bravo.

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 30):
If Ronald Reagan could address the NAACP, if Bill Clinton could address the Southern Baptist Convention, then GWB surely should have the balls to address the NAACP.

Did the NAACP or Southern Baptist Convention call Reagan and/or Clinton the same things that they've lobbed on Bush? I think not.

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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:10 am

quoting B744F
"Quoting Psa53 (Reply 31):
And stop calling Repulbican Blacks,white

Why should they? Why would any black person vote GOP? Do they enjoy voting for someone who wants to cut funding to the inner city schools? To public housing, etc?"

Are you saying that all black Americans live in the inner city and in public housing? Is that not a bit racist?
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:18 am

Quoting B744F (Reply 32):
Why should they? Why would any black person vote GOP? Do they enjoy voting for someone who wants to cut funding to the inner city schools? To public housing, etc?

With results like this:

"Last week, the National Urban League released its annual State of Black America report and concluded that 40 years after landmark civil rights legislation was enacted, economic and social progress for black Americans remains stagnant or is worsening. The median wealth for blacks, according to the report, is 10 times less than it is for whites. Black unemployment remains twice as high as whites, with black unemployment holding steady at 10.8%, while white unemployment decreased to 4.7%."

Maybe, just maybe, it's worth a change of pace--even just to try it for a short while.
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:47 am

It's was liberal/NAACP who called blacks that are
conservative of going white.It was on 20/20,I believe
last year.

There is a black Republican reprensation.The propaganda
censor media/liberals
and NAACP just haven't admitted to it!It would bring
to the NAACP, united front,where every opinion,
would count and be respected.


And don't call me racist! You don't know who
I am to be called that!That's really narrow
minded.

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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 12:21 pm

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 30):

Once again, I ask you: Where did he call Bush a member of the KKK or a Nazi?

What the hells the difference if he was compared to a Nazi or a Clansman, it's still a degrading remark and outright disrespectful. Would you go to a convention where you know you'll be heckled through your speech? Bush turned down the NAACP's invite year over year, but did speak at the Convention of the Congressional Black Caucus in Detroit in the September before the election.
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 12:27 pm

Quoting TriStarEnvy (Reply 3):
Why go? Not to sound flippant about it, but if he's not highly liked by a group, in general, why do it?

Nixon went; Reagan, who's legacy is loathed by black Americans for the most part, went; Bush 41 went. Why not 43? Easy-he's beholden to an extremist right political mantra, that barely even recognizes the civil rights movement, only makes token overtures to black groups, and, in general, would rather not piss off white southern men, who still can't stand the fact blacks have equal rights. The GOP loses that block, they have no "majority". (Sorry, Condi, but that doesn't bode well for you for '08).

Quoting TriStarEnvy (Reply 9):
The same way I keep a straight face when Whoopi, Babs, Robin Williams, Chevy, and everyone else make asses of them selves, talking ABOUT Dubya.

Comparing comics with the president? Maybe you want to rephrase that. You're NOT supposed to take comics that seriously-you ARE supposed to take POTUS seriously, and most Americans don't anymore. 6 months into his 2nd term, they're growing tired of his act.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 17):
It'd be like Falcon84, B744F, Rsmith, etc asking Bush to come speak to them.

I'd be honored to ask the man to speak to me. I don't like his policies, but I respect the office, and I'd be honored to have him over for dinner-I'd even cook some fried chicken for the dude.  Smile

Quoting TriStarEnvy (Reply 18):
I'm not disagreeing w/you about the hate speak, I'm just saying that Republicans seem to be hatefully vilified more that Democrats.

When you start wars; shit on other nations; have your Senators not vote even for a symbolic gesture, apologizing for the lynching of blacks for 150 years, you reap what you sow, my friend.

Quoting Slider (Reply 21):
I think the NAACP is nothing more than a special interest group, as much of the Democratic party's constituencies seems to be today.

ROTFLMAO. And the GOP? Big Business? Big Oil? The wealthy? the NRA? The Christian Coalition? Sounds as special interest as anyone. Proves you don't know crap about what a "special interest".

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 25):
Clinton is the laughing stock of a generation.

And he's starting to become a more well-respected figure than Mr. Bush could ever be, and that drives the right wings wacko...well, wacko.  Big grin
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Sat Jul 16, 2005 12:45 pm

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 39):
And he's starting to become a more well-respected figure than Mr. Bush could ever be

 rotfl  rotfl 

Thanks for the laugh my friend . . .

Well respected in a few circles perhaps . . . but I assure you, not in all of them. And for every Slick Willie Circle there's a Dubya Circle . . .

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 39):
and that drives the right wings wacko...well, wacko.

 laughing  yes 

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 39):
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 12:49 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 40):
Thanks for the laugh my friend . . .

Laugh all you wont, hombre. His work with tsunami aid; his work with helping Africa and the poor and AIDS victims there. What's Bush done lately? Oh, no answer for a war he started; his top politico possibly up on treason charges; his domestic agenda getting snickers from even those in his party.

Clinton, in the end, will come out as much more respected than Bush. You can laugh, I'll stand buy those words.
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 12:53 pm

Maybe he doesn't like the group?

There was an article last Sunday in the Huntsville Times about how Huntsville schools are still bound by the federal desegregation lawsuit filed by the NAACP and the federal guvmunt. It's going to cost big $$$ to pay off the NAACP and the Southern Poverty Law Center to get it repealed, because they have to agree to the changes. I can't believe that Huntsville is still overseen by the federal judiciary, because it ain't 1950 anymore. The people have changed, and yet the school system has to operate under the burden of proving it's not "discriminating," even when people of different skin colors and (particularly) different income levels want to live in different neighborhoods.
 
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:06 pm

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 41):
Clinton, in the end, will come out as much more respected than Bush

It all depends on the war on Iraq. If President Bush successfully brings freedom and liberty to Iraq, he will be consider a great President who faced the evils of terror with courage and determination.

On the other hand, if the mess in Iraq doesn't change... well, it won't be nice.

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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:13 pm

Quoting SFOMEX (Reply 43):
It all depends of the war on Iraq. If President Bush successfully brings freedom and liberty to Iraq, he will consider a great President who faced the evils of terror with courage and determination.

On the other hand, if the mess in Iraq doesn't change... well, it won't be nice.

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Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:22 pm

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 44):
Gawddawm! We agree for once!!!

Wow... I feel kind of weird.
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:27 pm

Quoting SFOMEX (Reply 45):
Wow... I feel kind of weird.

Read the adoption agency thread, and you'll get rid of the wierd feeling.  Big grin
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:37 pm

Why should Bush give the NAA"L"CP the time of day when they despise, degrade, and defame the following people of their own race, which let me remind you, is the point of their existence:

Condoleezza Rice
Colin Powell
Clarence Thomas
Janice Rogers Brown

Tell me? The NAA"L"CP is nothing more than a liberal organization that is full of hate for Mr. Bush, whom has promoted more minorities to high level positions than any other president in history. And the NAACP hates him. This makes no sense people! The funny thing is that they would open their arms for Robert "KKK" Byrd to speak to them...

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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:42 pm

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 47):
Why should Bush give the NAA"L"CP the time of day when they despise, degrade, and defame the following people of their own race, which let me remind you, is the point of their existence:

Condoleezza Rice
Colin Powell
Clarence Thomas

You really think they achieved those positions solely because they are black?
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RE: Why Does President Bush Not Speak To The Naacp?

Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:44 pm

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 48):
You really think they achieved those positions solely because they are black?

No, that's the whole point.
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