Alitalia777
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Mbta "Charlie Card" In Boston

Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:05 am

Hello,
Does anyone know if the Charlie Card system has been installed and is in use on Boston's subway system, the T? If so (or if not), have the turnstyles been replaced yet? Can I purchase a Charlie Card? If so, where? If it's not available, does anyone know when? Please fill me in with anything else you might know. Thanks everyone!!

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RE: Mbta "Charlie Card" In Boston

Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:16 am

It is first being rolled out on certain Blue Line stations. Supposedly more of the T will be added towards the end of the year along with buses. Here is the link on the MBTA's website:
http://www.mbta.com/projects_underway/easyway.asp
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RE: Mbta "Charlie Card" In Boston

Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:52 am

It's in use at Aquarium, Airport and Wonderland stations. Of course, this is a royal pain for me, as when I take the T, I park at Wonderland, so I have to use Charlie Card there, but then I have to use tokens elsewhere. I have purchased them at Airport and Wonderland stations, and they are out there (quite a few people on my Blue Line train Friday afternoon were complaining about them...they're not hard to use, it's just a hassle right now while only 3 stations are Charlie Card and the rest are tokens...when it's 100% Charlie Card, it'll be real nice).

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RE: Mbta "Charlie Card" In Boston

Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:57 am

Quoting Alitalia777 (Thread starter):
Mbta "Charlie Card" In Boston

OMG – It’s really called that? After Charlie on the MTA?

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RE: Mbta "Charlie Card" In Boston

Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:34 pm

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 3):
OMG – It’s really called that? After Charlie on the MTA?

Yep! It's true.

Now think about the Boston accent and what letter sounds the worst when spoken in a Boston accent. Now think of the words "Charlie Card" in a Boston accent.

Once it's fully implemented I expect it to be the centre of many-a-joke.

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RE: Mbta "Charlie Card" In Boston

Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:30 am

Quoting LH423 (Reply 4):
Now think about the Boston accent

I'm puzzled why the automated voice on the subway and on some busses don't have the accent.
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RE: Mbta "Charlie Card" In Boston

Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:50 am

Quoting Zone1 (Reply 5):
I'm puzzled why the automated voice on the subway and on some busses don't have the accent.

My guess would be 2 reasons:

1. The automated voice was probably done out of the area.

2. Not programmed for regional accents.

3. The tourists wouldn't be able to understand it.  Silly

Wow, this must've been recently implemented. Last April, I was using the Blue Line to & from the new Airport & Aquarium stations and noticed no such sytem in effect. It was still the old coin & token system.

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 3):
Quoting Alitalia777 (Thread starter):
Mbta "Charlie Card" In Boston

OMG – It’s really called that? After Charlie on the MTA?

You guessed it.
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RE: Mbta "Charlie Card" In Boston

Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:57 am

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 6):
Wow, this must've been recently implemented. Last April, I was using the Blue Line to & from the new Airport & Aquarium stations and noticed no such sytem in effect. It was still the old coin & token system.

Just started in late May or early June...I rode the Blue Line from Airport to State on June 1 and it was Charlie Card. When I rode the Blue Line from Wonderland in mid May, it was tokens, but Friday it was Charlie Card. From what I've heard, the Blue Line will get it first, then spread out to other lines.

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RE: Mbta "Charlie Card" In Boston

Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:16 am

Correction to my earlier post (in bold):

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 6):
Quoting Zone1 (Reply 5):
I'm puzzled why the automated voice on the subway and on some busses don't have the accent.

My guess would be 3 reasons:

1. The automated voice was probably done out of the area.

2. Not programmed for regional accents.

3. The tourists wouldn't be able to understand it.


Edited to add:

Thanks for the info. DeltAirlines. Big grin

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RE: Mbta "Charlie Card" In Boston

Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:20 am

I wonder why the blue line is getting it first. It appears to be one of, if not the shortest line. The MBTA seems to love to make upgrades to the blue line. Many of the stops, including aquarium and airport are so nice and new. I just wonder when they are going to update the blue line trains, because they are in the most need to replacement. I don't use it much, but the red line is my favorite.

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RE: Mbta "Charlie Card" In Boston

Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:16 am

Quoting Alitalia777 (Reply 9):
I don't use it much, but the red line is my favorite.

I agree. I've had an internship in Watertown for the last two summers and I generally only use the Red Line. I use the Blue Line only when I go to the airport and out spotting. It would be nice if they renovated some of the Red Line stations.
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RE: Mbta "Charlie Card" In Boston

Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:27 am

Quoting Zone1 (Reply 10):
It would be nice if they renovated some of the Red Line stations.

But leave Porter Square and the Gloves alone
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RE: Mbta "Charlie Card" In Boston

Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:27 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 11):
But leave Porter Square and the Gloves alone

I've never been north of Harvard Station. Is Porter Square pretty nice? MGH is so horrible looking.
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RE: Mbta "Charlie Card" In Boston

Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:30 am

Quoting Zone1 (Reply 12):
I've never been north of Harvard Station. Is Porter Square pretty nice? MGH is so horrible looking.

After Porter Square was built, the workers threw their work gloves down the center of the escalators and then threw bronze down to solidify them. It is a work of art
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RE: Mbta "Charlie Card" In Boston

Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:53 am

Quoting Alitalia777 (Reply 9):
I wonder why the blue line is getting it first. It appears to be one of, if not the shortest line.

You may have just answered your own question with the latter part of your first sentence. From a logical standpoint, it's usually desireable to test (& debug) a new product first on usually the smallest branch on a given system; then (assuming no major problems are encountered) expand its usage system-wide.

Quoting Alitalia777 (Reply 9):
The MBTA seems to love to make upgrades to the blue line.

That's because, back in the '70s & '80s, the MBTA focused more on the other lines (Red Line Extensions to Alewife & Braintree, the relocated Orange Line along what would've been an extension of I-95 from Canton); other than the trains themselves (which were first delivered in late 1979 IIRC), the Blue Line was the most neglected branch of the system back then.

Quoting Alitalia777 (Reply 9):
I just wonder when they are going to update the blue line trains

The Orange Line trains could use a replacement as well. They're essentially a stretched version of the Blue Line trains and are of similar vintage.

When I moved out of Masschusetts 15 years ago, the Red Line cars on the Ashmont-Mattapan branch were among the oldest in the T's fleet (they inherited the old (50s-60s era) former-Blue & Orange Line trains in the early '80s); does that still hold true?

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RE: Mbta "Charlie Card" In Boston

Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:06 am

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 14):
When I moved out of Masschusetts 15 years ago, the Red Line cars on the Ashmont-Mattapan branch were among the oldest in the T's fleet (they inherited the old (50s-60s era) former-Blue & Orange Line trains in the early '80s); does that still hold true?

The trains on the Ashmont-Mattapan line wouldn't have come from the Blue/Orange Lines, as they are heavy rail. Instead, this line uses 1945-1946 vintage PCC cars that came from the Green Line (if I remember correctly). Oldest Red Line heavy rail cars are the 01500s and the 01600s, built 1969-1970.

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RE: Mbta "Charlie Card" In Boston

Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:26 am

Actually, the part of the Red Line Branch I was more specifically referring to was the part from the main corridor to Ashmont as opposed to the actual Ashmont-Mattapan line itself (my bad on the earlier reference). I know for a fact that from Ashmont northward is a heavy rail system.

Does the Ashmont-Mattapan line still use the PCC cars today (in the Philly area, SEPTA used these cars on their 'Green Lines' (aka Subway-Surface lines) as well in the past) or are they now using hand-me-down T Green Line Boeing LRVs or the Kawasakis?
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RE: Mbta "Charlie Card" In Boston

Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:32 am

Quoting Zone1 (Reply 12):
I've never been north of Harvard Station. Is Porter Square pretty nice? MGH is so horrible looking.



Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
After Porter Square was built, the workers threw their work gloves down the center of the escalators and then threw bronze down to solidify them. It is a work of art

That is a great piece of work at Porter. I've seen it many times (I live about a mile or so from there, but I don't T it too often), but I didn't know that it was the workers gloves.

Kendall, Porter and Davis Sq. are quite nice, actually. Alewife is a mix, but has some nice ambiance down by the tracks.

As for MGH (Charles Street, actually), it is the single most disgusting creation on earth. It used to have this horrible green facade that they tore down and replaced with a horrible red facade. My tax dollars at work.

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