mia
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A Man's Test In Life Is A Woman.

Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:05 pm

I need some advice and it involves a woman. Last time I came to Europe I fell madly in love (or madly infatuated) with this girl, or as some of my friends call her - bitch ass ho. I am so upset because I have been trying to get over her like for almost a year!

It should not be this hard to get over a girl. Yes I think she is perfect and she embodies what I look for in a woman, but what can I do to forget her? I live in Tallahassee and she in Milan and she has told me she is not interested in sustaining a relationship with me.

Help please!
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RE: A Man's Test In Life Is A Woman.

Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:12 pm

Quoting MIA (Thread starter):
I live in Tallahassee and she in Milan and she has told me she is not interested in sustaining a relationship with me.

LMAO @ I live in Tallahassee and she lives in Milan. Oh man thats just funny, thats like, yea I live in Cheyenne, Wyoming and she lives in Strasbourg!

But seriously, any woman that has her head on straight (Yes I know thats an oxymoron) knows that a relationship like that wont work. Dude your between the ages of 16-20, how do you fall in love with a girl from Europe that quick?

Oh wait here again im wrong. I made the mistake of dating an American girl once, ONLY thing I ever regret trying in my life.
 
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Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:14 pm

There is NOTHING you can do..Except live your life as best you can going forward.. I was DESPERATELY in love with another girl (namely for her physical attributes) and I still think about her from time to time... but as I have a connection to know what's she's up to, I have learned that her life (though professionaly sucessful), is a very sad, empty, and materialistc. If I had stayed with her, I NEVER would have had any children and knowing what I know about my love for my kids, that truly would have been a tragedy.
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RE: A Man's Test In Life Is A Woman.

Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:49 pm

Quoting MIA (Thread starter):
It should not be this hard to get over a girl. Yes I think she is perfect and she embodies what I look for in a woman, but what can I do to forget her?

You think someone you had known for maybe a WEEK is perfect?

My advice:
1) Grow up
2) Occupy yourself another way...thinking about something like that all the time is unhealthy at best

And that "love at first sight" nonsense is a bunch of hooey.
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Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:37 pm

Let it go, it's just a crush. At the age of 16-20 that sort of thing happens to everyone (don't try telling me it's different to everyone else, that's what makes it a crush).

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Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:47 pm

Long distance relationships are very tricky to keep going anyway. You can never win against a woman, there are just better degrees of losing Wink
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Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:53 pm

Gotta agree with the rest of the guys here.
Just forget her. It wont work. Especially since she doesn't want anything to do with you.

I tried a long relationship once when I moved to Switzerland from Denmark. My ex wanted to stay in Denmark because she wanted to finish her studies. And we were together for 1 month after that. And then we broke up. So it wont work. Trust me.
 
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Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:01 am

well, as soon as you get out with your buddies and hook up with a nice sex crazy chick you´ll be fine.
Until that, keep up the masturbation work, it´s always a nice way to remember good times and situations, and a stress relief tool.
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RE: A Man's Test In Life Is A Woman.

Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:03 am

Quoting Erikwilliam (Reply 7):
well, as soon as you get out with your buddies and hook up with a nice sex crazy chick you´ll be fine.
Until that, keep up the masturbation work, it´s always a nice way to remember good times and situations, and a stress relief tool.

LMAO!!!!! Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Yeah listen to Dr. Love here  Wink
 
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Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:14 am

Quoting MIA (Thread starter):
I live in Tallahassee and she in Milan and she has told me she is not interested in sustaining a relationship with me.

if you were a hot chick living in Milan would you give two craps about someone who lives in Tallahassee??


also, i love the title of this. "A Man's Test in Life is a Woman"

oh, how naive you are!

1. try passing a kidney stone

2. or sitting through The Vagina Monologues

3. or go to a Gloria Steinem speech and talk to everyone there about your infatuation over a foreign woman for her looks
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Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:15 am

and p.s.--if you really wanna have some fun. at #3. don't call her a woman. call her a "chick"
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Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:17 am

Quoting OYRJA (Reply 8):
LMAO!!!!! Yeah listen to Dr. Love here

you mean Dr. Love Yourself.

haha.
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Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:20 am

Quoting STLGph (Reply 9):
1. try passing a kidney stone

BRUTAL!!!!!
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Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:51 am

Ok here ya go. I have expreience here. It wasn't quite another country but it was Flint, Michigan(well Columbiaville actually but that's the closest city) so that almost counts. Here's the low down. We stayed together for almost three years. There's a reason that I know exactly what time that NWA flights leave to Detroit from Tampa and why I have been on almost all the DC-9s and have 8 billion WorldPerks miles. It was great...she was beautiful, we had tons in common, talked every day, made time to see each other every other month. The sex was great too, just as an aside...lol. However, it didn't work out, and I was on the bad end of the stick. Totally devestated. Took me about 6 months and a lot of beer to come out of my shell. Then I realized that I only had 8 months left in college and it was time to make the best of it. So, I went out, partied my ass off, hooked up with random coeds, went on a cruise, and basically said f*ck it.

Just get past it my friend, from Nole to Nole. There are way too many incredibly hot, sexy, and "willing to learn" women up there. Just go have fun and let loose. Score one coed and your pain will go away.

It worked for me.
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Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:55 am

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 12):
BRUTAL!!!!!

it has to be better than this

Quoting STLGph (Reply 9):
3. or go to a Gloria Steinem

MIA: I thought better on your case over lunch, you definitely needs to have casual sex, ASAP

Quoting OYRJA (Reply 8):
Yeah listen to Dr. Love here

awwww, thx man  kiss 
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RE: A Man's Test In Life Is A Woman.

Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:47 am

Quoting STLGph (Reply 9):
1. try passing a kidney stone

Bro, I had kidney stones when I was 16. It is the only time I have ever wanted to chop my penis off.

Secondly, I know I should get over her and Im working on it.

Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 3):
You think someone you had known for maybe a WEEK is perfect?

Dawg, I knew her for like 1.5 months going to school together. So...


Thanks for the posts, keep them coming!
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Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:40 am

Quoting MIA (Thread starter):
Yes I think she is perfect and she embodies what I look for in a woman,

Possibly the worst mistake you can make. No one is perfect. It sounds to me that your are "in love" with the idea of a perfect woman, and think she fits the bill. She doesn't. She never will.
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Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:18 pm

Quoting MIA" class=quote target=_blank>MIA (Thread starter):
I live in Tallahassee and she in Milan and she has told me she is not interested in sustaining a relationship with me.

There's this saying that goes: Love at distance...Happier the 4. LOL

Quoting Erikwilliam (Reply 14):
MIA: I thought better on your case over lunch, you definitely needs to have casual sex, ASAP

LOL, he sure does

Quoting Mia (Reply 15):

Bro, I had kidney stones when I was 16. It is the only time I have ever wanted to chop my penis off.

Ouch! Good your over it.

Anyway MIA, I suggest you not to keep on with that. Try not looking for someone else in the meanwhile cuz otherwise you'll only be using her to forget Mrs. Milan. And it's not fair for the other lady. So try having time for yourself until you feel OK with yourself and then you'll see how you'll forget Mrs. Milan. Time cures everything, it's hard but you have to be patient. It'll work.

How do you know she's thinking of you such as you doing with her?

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Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:04 pm

A man is judged in life not by his jor money, but simply by what kind of woman he was able to marry. If he's not married that also says a lot about him......


Hope this helps
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Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:33 pm

Quoting Alberchico (Reply 18):
If he's not married that also says a lot about him......

Yeah, he's gay :P LOL

 sarcastic 


Cheers

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Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:44 pm

You need to drive to Daytona during spring break, get drunk, and find yourself a meaningful one night relationship. The only thing that will get you over a woman is meaningless sex with another.
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Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:44 pm

People could also think that he has a very cold or shallow personality and that's why he could'nt end up with anyone.
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Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:07 pm

Quoting Alberchico (Reply 18):
A man is judged in life not by his jor money, but simply by what kind of woman he was able to marry. If he's not married that also says a lot about him......

Hope this helps

brilliant. utterly brilliant. did you come up with this all by yourself? because
this is by far the most asinine things i think i've read.

Quoting Alberchico (Reply 21):
People could also think that he has a very cold or shallow personality and that's why he could'nt end up with anyone.

or it could be the fact that he simply didn't want to get married. why is it such a big deal. no one -has- to get married in order to be a great person. i think can think of quite a few people who have contributed more to inspiring people and doing good things than you could ever hope to dream of, and these people have never been married and never will.
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Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:40 pm

Quoting STLGph (Reply 22):
Quoting Alberchico (Reply 18):
A man is judged in life not by his jor money, but simply by what kind of woman he was able to marry. If he's not married that also says a lot about him......

Hope this helps

brilliant. utterly brilliant. did you come up with this all by yourself? because
this is by far the most asinine things i think i've read.

Lemme tell you all something.. there are two 'people' at best who can judge you effectively when you die. 1) Your god if you believe in that sort of thng, and 2)Yourself

Is it nice if others think highly of you when your dead, yes, but guess what??? You aren't going to be paying much attention at your funeral....
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Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:24 am

Mia, if you want this woman, don't waste your time asking other men, take it from a woman, you can have her should she be free of other engagements. All you need is basic psychology, and the drive to apply it tactfully. With sufficient determination (presupposing you meet the standard prerequisites (more on that below)) you can have her, or any woman worth having.

The key is in ascertaining her emotional needs. People are their feelings, even if they put up a facade of indifference or strength. If you truly listen to what she says when she speaks you can eventually determine what her psychological needs are - and, with effort, by meeting them, you will naturally become her most preferred companion, and thereafter lover, unless someone beats you to it.

Granted, you must be of at least moderate levels of attractiveness. If you know you are severely overweight, missing a limb, or unkempt, you may reduce your chances, and wish to modify and raise your level of general attractiveness before launching the pursuit. Try to be, among men, at her level of attraction among women, and higher if you can manage it. Recollect the men she found physically appealing (maybe it was you, maybe it was not) and try to emulate in appearance what you remember. Naturally don't exactly duplicate anyone, but it can only increase your chances.

Talk with her over the phone and actually, speak as infrequently as you can. Most women love to have a confidant, and if you ask and earnestly listen you will 1.) go down as a trusted friend and 2.) pick up valuable information about her thoughts, concerns, etc., which will enable you to detect what she is most needing - what would make you the perfect, irresistible complement to her life.

When you know her like the back of your hand, take time off of work and go see her. If she likes surprises, drop in unexpectedly. If she loves roses, make sure you have them ready. Invite her to her favorite restaurant. Get her tickets to her favorite show. And most importantly...

When you look at her, be silent initially. Women are FASCINATED by silent men. The more you can refrain from speaking (but still retain plenty of eye contact and intimacy) the more she will inadvertently ascribe to you all the thoughts she wished you were thinking. When you do open your mouth, carefully aim your comments to the core of her psychological needs.

For example, if she is the kind that looks for safety, family, security, comfort - a traditional woman - you should mention your promotion, your love of children and recent job you got volunteering around kids (don't lie though, it will come back to bite you in the ass if you do this poorly) and just generally exude the image of a provider and protector. If she is the kind who longs for romance but also wants excitement and is more wild - match her image, show spunk and pizzaz and take her out dancing or motorcycling or whatever it is that she always dreamed of doing.

Most of all, if you are serious about this girl, and it is the distance keeping the two of you apart, after you go see her be willing to make a compromise - either you or her - to a place where mutually you can thrive.

Remember, with enough effort, skill, and planning - and most of all earnest desire - anything can be had.

Good luck.
 
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Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:34 am

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 23):
Is it nice if others think highly of you when your dead, yes, but guess what??? You aren't going to be paying much attention at your funeral....

i've heard plenty of euologies.

"this was a great man who donated this amount of $$$ and this time to this organization...etc. etc."

never have i heard...

"this man married a woman with two monster melons. and he picked her right. she knew when breakfast, lunch, and dinner was to be ready, when the laundry was to be done, and how many babies she was expected to produce. she never went over her alloted budget and kept the house spic 'n spanned 24/7. he will be remembered for having such a trophy wife that could rival Ellen Greene's character in 'Little Shop of Horrors'"
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Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:39 am

Haha, like it's particularly meaningful to be remembered by the people you bribed to.
 
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Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:08 am

Hey MIA, need some inspiration to get over her?
Here it goes:



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Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:58 am

Quoting Enigmatica121 (Reply 24):
Talk with her over the phone and actually, speak as infrequently as you can. Most women love to have a confidant, and if you ask and earnestly listen you will 1.) go down as a trusted friend and 2.) pick up valuable information about her thoughts, concerns, etc., which will enable you to detect what she is most needing - what would make you the perfect, irresistible complement to her life.

Bull$hit!!! When the time comes when you want to be more than friends with a gal like you describe, she will come back with the classic line: "you know, we're really good friends, and I want to stay that way. I just don't see us as more than that." And then she finds the biggest f-ing jerk there is and dates him, gets dumped on, and looks to this "confidant" for sympathy and wonders why men are such jerks. And the guy feels like a stooge for putting himself out there. You really live in fantasyland, honey.

Quoting Enigmatica121 (Reply 24):
Women are FASCINATED by silent men

Again...bull$hit!!!! I've always been on the quiet side, never trying to be funny and obnoxious all the time just to draw attention. And you know what? It's gotten me nowhere. Women don't want someone "silent" and "nice" and "thoughful" or whatever else. They might think they do, but they're always attracted to the outspoken jerk with big muscles. That's just the way it is.
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Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:07 pm

Quoting MIA (Thread starter):
Last time I came to Europe I fell madly in love (or madly infatuated) with this girl, or as some of my friends call her - bitch ass ho. I am so upset because I have been trying to get over her like for almost a year!

Your friend are right. Stop wasting your time. Find someone else...and fast.

Quoting MIA (Thread starter):
It should not be this hard to get over a girl. Yes I think she is perfect and she embodies what I look for in a woman, but what can I do to forget her? I live in Tallahassee and she in Milan and she has told me she is not interested in sustaining a relationship with me.

Say no more. It's over. She's 5-6000 miles away, and as far as she's concerned, you're a very distant memory and she wants it to stay that way for good.

Quoting KLM685 (Reply 19):
Quoting Alberchico (Reply 18):
If he's not married that also says a lot about him......

Yeah, he's gay :P LOL

Cheers

Alonsou

WTF? WTF is that supposed to mean? That's either an incredibly IGNORANT remark or you're being very sarcastic. Either way, it's a foolish remark. I'm not married, and I'm not gay either...I'm always checking out gorgeous women. And you know what? I don't need a woman to complete my life. I'm happy with who I am and where I'm going. If I meet a great gal, hey fine. If not, I can live with that...I'll just do what I want to do with my life.
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Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:27 pm

Quoting MIA (Thread starter):
Help please!

Get some balls, go to Milan, and claim your woman.

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Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:20 am

To Steven: the kind of women you like probably do like outspoken jerks, especially if they are easy and willing to settle for a non-committed, brief, meaningless relationship. There are a handful of women who find quality where in fact there is none, either out of desperation or lack of forethought.

But the kind of women that most men idealize seek men for their intelligence and character, not their loud mouths. A man of decent looks with a good heart, an excellent mind, and ambition will always score higher than a self-absorbed prick, provided he is not self-pitying, cynical, or not competitive on the basics (i.e no goals, no wit, no spirit). Introduce any woman to two men of otherwise identical merit, and in the majority of the cases she will go for the one who makes her feel important, loved, and who treats her well.

It is important to be noticeable, and not to sink away into the crowd. But when you are alone with a woman, you should be aware that clownish entertainment will pin you as immature, and will doubtless aggravate her away, no matter how cute or alluring any act, for lack of a better word, you may initially put on.

You should not advocate to other men to follow a playerish path, because really, the world is already stocked with an abundance of jerks, and even more frustrated women trying to avoid them and find the few remaining decent men.

Out of my friends, the most beautiful ones who do modeling on the side aren't with bombastic, obnoxious fools. They are with the men who took the time to love them for their souls, and who had the skill and persistence to earn their trust and desire. Women claim to like men who are there for them not out of some desire to deceive men into a life of lonely misery, but rather because that is precisely what they crave.

Then again, if you are seeking a lifetime of one-night stands - sure, be good looking jerk, treat women like sexual items, wind up with a lawsuit that will slap you silly, live the high life. But if you are planning to get married think of what it will be like to tell your wife about your STDs and your numerous affairs and think of how wonderful she will feel entering in a marriage with someone who has put her on the level of those kinds of women.

Sex is motivating, but it's important not to lose your character to strike an image for someone else or for temporary benefit. When all else fades, character and how you treated those you love matters most.

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RE: A Man's Test In Life Is A Woman.

Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:17 pm

Quoting KLM685 (Reply 19):
Quoting Alberchico (Reply 18):
If he's not married that also says a lot about him......

Yeah, he's gay :P LOL

I thought it was legal in some places for gays to be married now  Wink

To the original question. Yes some Long Distance relatiosjips work etc... and yes you may have some feelings for here. Yes you may keep on dreaming about it and yes, in a few lucky people's lives these things will come true and fall into place.

But you even said in post one that she is not interested, that pretty much sums up everything you need to know.

It may feel hard now to overcome this thing, but its life and reality unfortunately. You will never always get 'perfection' in life and dreams do not come true 99% of the time.

Good luck

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RE: A Man's Test In Life Is A Woman.

Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:51 pm

This thread has given me great entertainment for an otherwise boring lunch-in-the-office. Almost as much fun as a FLAIRPORT thread.

Dude - get over her. She said she's not interested. And she lives in Italy. This seems like a no-brainer to me. There are no shortage of hot, slutty Florida State chicks in Tallahasee. Find one.

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