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Would A "head"-less Government Be Possible?

Sun Jul 24, 2005 8:42 pm

Is it really necessary to have a head of State/government (president, prime minister etc)? What would happen if governments didn't have any (assume that there would be the possiblity of other members of the government representing it overseas, eg. individual ministers)? Would it really cease to function?
 
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RE: Would A "head"-less Government Be Possible?

Sun Jul 24, 2005 8:55 pm

It would require a higher capability for teamwork from the members of government than most people can offer. An unambiguous head of government will work better most of the time. Accountability and recognizability are easier to assign, too.
 
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RE: Would A "head"-less Government Be Possible?

Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:00 pm

I don't think that human nature as it currently stands would allow for this.

So long as the potential to gain power exists, there will always be those who work to gain more.

Plus I think that having a state headed by an individual presents a unique and alluring democratic opportunity.

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RE: Would A "head"-less Government Be Possible?

Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:07 pm

I think their is a need for a singular person that is a chief executive or 'head of state' as not everything can be done by the legisgature, such as in emergency circumstances or involved with negotiations with other governments. One possible alternative is in Switzerland where the head of state is rotated on a regular basis among representives of the member states of that country. That way no one person can develop so much control or push a particular idealology as we see with the heads of state of some representitive governments.
 
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RE: Would A "head"-less Government Be Possible?

Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:49 pm

What you are suggesting can be linked to pure form of communism. Where all decisions that affect the community are supposed to be made by the entire community and for the good of the community. Doesn't work very well once you get above the family unit.
 
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RE: Would A "head"-less Government Be Possible?

Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:00 pm

Quoting Air2gxs (Reply 4):
Doesn't work very well once you get above the family unit.

Some would argue that even then the system has its failings. lol

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RE: Would A "head"-less Government Be Possible?

Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:26 pm

Quoting Duke (Thread starter):
Would A "head"-less Government Be Possible?

The United States is doing a pretty good job of it right now!
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RE: Would A "head"-less Government Be Possible?

Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:27 pm

Would A "head"-less Government Be Possible?

I wonder how Mr. Clinton would have made it two terms? Big grin

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RE: Would A "head"-less Government Be Possible?

Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:18 am

It was tried in France, and failed, well...miserably.
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RE: Would A "head"-less Government Be Possible?

Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:28 am

It is not only possible, actually we have this in Switzerland. Our government consists of seven persons having equal rights (the Bundesrat). One of them is for one year the so called president but in fact he/she does not have more rights than the others. He/she does representations and has to head the conferences. But all decisions are made by all seven people and the so called president does not have more than one vote like the others.

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RE: Would A "head"-less Government Be Possible?

Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:46 am

Right... I didn´t think of Switzerland... But I guess it does require a good bit of willingness to work in a team, doesn´t it?
 
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RE: Would A "head"-less Government Be Possible?

Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:49 am

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 3):
One possible alternative is in Switzerland where the head of state is rotated on a regular basis among representives of the member states of that country.

As I posted in my previous post it is something like you said, but you are not entirely right. The so called president comes not of the representives of the Cantons (states). He is elected out of the seven people of the government for one year but he is not really a head only a "primus inter pares" with mostly representation duties. Perhaps you mixed a little bit up with the German Bundesrat. Our Bundesrat is the government, the German Bundesrat is the part of the parliament which are the representives of the Bundesländer (states). In Switzerland the Ständerat (one chamber of parliament) is like the US Senat (two of each state or Canton).
 
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RE: Would A "head"-less Government Be Possible?

Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:55 am

Quoting Klaus (Reply 10):
Right... I didn´t think of Switzerland... But I guess it does require a good bit of willingness to work in a team, doesn´t it?

Oh yes it does. There are sometimes problems and discussions about it, specifically because we have in the government all big parties, from right to left (a kind of big coalition). But the Bundesrat is ought to act as a team.

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