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My Worse Fear Happens To FL. Woman (Snake Related)

Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:29 am

http://www.nbc6.net/news/4758748/detail.html?subid=10101481


Woman Bitten By Poisonous Snake Hiding In Toilet


Alicia Bailey was bitten by what appeared to have been a large water moccasin that had been hiding in the bowl in the middle of the night.

"We're currently very uncomfortable in our home," Alicia Bailey said. "And toilet shy, I would say."













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Crazy things like this have crossed my mind but I never thought this could actually happen.
I rememeber when I was 9 years old, I fell on my bicycle in a feild next to a Eastern Massasauga Rattlesnake (Sistrurus catenatus catenatus). This was back in Indiana.
It's rattle was very loud and it scared the hell out of me!
It was my first encounter with a snake in the wild.
For some crazy reason I was afraid to use the toilet for 3 days.  boggled 
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RE: My Worse Fear Happens To FL. Woman (Snake Related)

Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:37 am

Quoting Superfly (Thread starter):
For some crazy reason I was afraid to use the toilet for 3 days.

How does fear of the toilet relate to having fallen off a bike near a rattlesnake?

The craziest of irrational fears...  Smile

BTW: Now I'm going to have visions, all day, of a guy blowing away a snake in his toilet with a shotgun. !!!  Smile
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RE: My Worse Fear Happens To FL. Woman (Snake Related)

Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:40 am

SATL382G:
Hey I was 9 years old and my sisters teased me and said that they swim in the sewer pipes.
Well they were right.
At least water snakes do which northern Indiana doesn't have.
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RE: My Worse Fear Happens To FL. Woman (Snake Related)

Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:45 am

Quoting Superfly (Thread starter):
Alicia Bailey was bitten by what appeared to have been a large water moccasin that had been hiding in the bowl in the middle of the night.

this sets up a great backbone for the best animal-gone-wild film since Tremors!
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Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:47 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 2):
my sisters teased me

Oh those evil women!!!  

He says as he envisions picking up pieces of blasted snake, porcelain, and water from all over the master bath....

edit: "gutter mode on" BTW the subject line had me thinking of something completely different.... "/gutter mode off"

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Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:52 am

He says as he envisions picking up pieces of blasted snake, porcelain, and water from all over the master bath....

That quote of his did make me laugh!  Silly
I can hear it with a Southern accent;
'Dat damn son-of-bitch snake, I am gonna blast that snake from bitin' my wife's ass!'
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Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:56 am

Gives a whole new meaning to "Asses of Fire", doesn't it?

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RE: My Worse Fear Happens To FL. Woman (Snake Related)

Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:56 am

Can't say I blame the snake, I'd have been scared too......... I don't think she ever had chance to sit down....

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Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:01 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
That quote of his did make me laugh!
I can hear it with a Southern accent;
'Dat damn son-of-bitch snake, I am gonna blast that snake from bitin' my wife's ass!'

with apologies to J. Foxworthy...

You might be a redneck if.....

When you run out of TidyBowl you use a shotgun instead!!
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RE: My Worse Fear Happens To FL. Woman (Snake Related)

Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:03 am

The snake probably came out of her and fell in the shitter. I guess she did not know that not everything is all you can eat at the local buffett
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Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:05 am

Woman in Indonesia was attacked by a Reticulated Python (longest, and 2nd-largest snake in the world) through the hole of an outhouse.

Apparently, the snakes frequently take refuge in human outhouses during the night, as the decaying fecal matter supplies them with significantly more heat than does the outside air temperature.
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Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:08 am

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 10):
Woman in Indonesia was attacked by a Reticulated Python (longest, and 2nd-largest snake in the world) through the hole of an outhouse.

Apparently, the snakes frequently take refuge in human outhouses during the night, as the decaying fecal matter supplies them with significantly more heat than does the outside air temperature.

Oh my gosh!
That would totally be hell!
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Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:10 am

DAMN! Seriously?!? I thought I was the only one who turned on the light in the bathroom before sitting on the throne out of fear that a snake would be in there!

And so now it actually HAPPENS?!? Lovely. I'm taking my 9mm to the can from now on.
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RE: My Worse Fear Happens To FL. Woman (Snake Related)

Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:13 am

...and on occasion there's a human snake in the commode.....

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0706053sewage1.html
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RE: My Worse Fear Happens To FL. Woman (Snake Related)

Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:16 am

Was that guy really going to fire a shotgun into his toilet?

Some straightlines are just too obvious!

Quoting Superfly (Thread starter):
I rememeber when I was 9 years old, I fell on my bicycle in a feild next to a Eastern Massasauga Rattlesnake (Sistrurus catenatus catenatus). This was back in Indiana.
It's rattle was very loud and it scared the hell out of me!
It was my first encounter with a snake in the wild.
For some crazy reason I was afraid to use the toilet for 3 days.

Well, just a guess but maybe under the circumstances you didn't need to use the toilet for a while.
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RE: My Worse Fear Happens To FL. Woman (Snake Related)

Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:21 am

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 10):
Apparently, the snakes frequently take refuge in human outhouses during the night, as the decaying fecal matter supplies them with significantly more heat than does the outside air temperature.

As they say.....one man's junk is another man's (or this case, snake) treasure!

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Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:27 am

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 12):
DAMN! Seriously?!? I thought I was the only one who turned on the light in the bathroom before sitting on the throne out of fear that a snake would be in there!

well remember when you turn on the light after being asleep or in the darkness, it takes a minute or two for your eyes to adjust. you usually turn the light on for a matter of just not knocking yourself into anything.
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Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:39 am

An diesem Orte wohnt ein Geist,
der jedem, der zu lange scheisst,
von hinten in die **** beisst!

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RE: My Worse Fear Happens To FL. Woman (Snake Related)

Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:46 am

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 17):

You had to, right?  rotfl  Guess what I immediately remembered when I saw this thread!
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Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:47 am

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 17):
An diesem Orte wohnt ein Geist,
der jedem, der zu lange scheisst,
von hinten in die **** beisst!

Hat Deutschland eine Wässerschlangen?
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RE: My Worse Fear Happens To FL. Woman (Snake Related)

Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:15 am

I like snakes except for water moccasins. My old neighbor used to call me at least once a week to remove a snake from her house. From my experience I have found that most snakebites are accidental and preventable. I do keep a 9MM hidden *somewhere* close to my toilet but I never thought of using it to kill a snake.

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Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:58 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 11):
Oh my gosh!
That would totally be hell!

...nah, but this would:

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Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:38 am

ConcordeBoy:
I read that story a few years ago.
Did that really happen?
Can a human being survive such an attack?
Those large Boa Constrictors are not poisonous and I don't have a bunch of sharp teeth.
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Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:49 am

For those of you who are feeling smug that you live in a country that doesn't have a problem with snakes, don't; about 5 yrs ago there was a story in the UK about a woman who found a snake curled up in her toilet, it had escaped from a flat near hers in her block and got into the sewer system.

She had major problems with paranoia after that (unsurprisingly).

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Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:51 am



Like that, but with her ass.
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Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:13 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 22):
Did that really happen?

This one was a hoax, the biggest giveaway being the position of the dude's arms.

Gotta hand it to 'im for crawlin' up a snake though

Quoting Superfly (Reply 22):
Can a human being survive such an attack?

Many times, no.

Dozens of people here in this country alone (had one here in New Orleans in 1993) have been documented as killed by giant constrictors.

The usual offender is the Reticulated Python, but also Burmese Pythons, Rock Pythons, and Anacondas have been guilty of said transgression.

It should be noted that in absolutely none of the aforementioned cases did the snake even attempt to eat the human... just constrict the hell outta 'em, and pop their aortas

It should also be noted that many more people have been killed in SE Asia by Retics and Burmese Pythons... and unfortunately, several cases of the snakes actually consuming children and small women have been reported if not verified. It should be noted that there are no reports (but a picture of an attempt, that I'm hesitant to post here) of a Retic attempting to swallow a grown man. Problem being: there's no way it can open its mouth wide enough to get past a mature man's shoulders-- and this is an animal which can swallow a full-grown doe, whole.

In fact, here's a pic of one that did:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 22):
Those large Boa Constrictors are not poisonous and I don't have a bunch of sharp teeth.

That's good, too bad they do



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RE: My Worse Fear Happens To FL. Woman (Snake Rela

Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:17 am

My fear is finding a rat in the toilet. That happened to a friend of mine!
 
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Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:25 am

Quoting 767Lover (Reply 26):
My fear is finding a rat in the toilet.

...well, if you're really lucky, maybe the snake'll eat it before you get there  Wink
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Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:04 pm

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 17):
An diesem Orte wohnt ein Geist,
der jedem, der zu lange scheisst,
von hinten in die **** beisst!

 rotfl 

Very nice.

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Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:31 am

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 25):
(but a picture of an attempt, that I'm hesitant to post here)

Why not?
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:41 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 29):
Why not?

...something about idiotic mods with less-than-a-hair triggers?
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:56 am

ConcordeBoy:
Send me the link to my email.
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:02 am

My Worse Fear Happens To FL. Woman (Snake Related)

Oh, I see. At first I thought someone found out that your "snake" ISN'T the biggest, even tho you say it is  Wink

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Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:08 am

Airlinelover:
I never said mines was the biggest.
No matter how big or tough one may be, there is always someone who is bigger and tougher.  Smile
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:10 am

hmm, I think this would be an acceptable compromise (particularly considering I don't know your email)

From what I know, the Bri'ish museum of herpetology authenticated this as the only known picture of attempted predation on a human by a Reticulated (or any other type of snake) Python.



*disclaimer*
WARNING: possibly disturbing image, view at your own risk!!

http://www.mooseheaven.com/snake/snake5.jpg
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:32 am

I can barley make out the man in the photo.
My email is in my profile.
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:37 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 35):
I can barley make out the man in the photo.

...he's lying facing toward the camera. His head is about 1ft into the snake, the imprint is rather apparent.
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:45 am

My gosh that is freaky!
How did this happen?
Did the camera man try to stop this attack?
Was he found like this?
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:06 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 37):
Did the camera man try to stop this attack?

he didn't have to

Quoting Superfly (Reply 37):
Was he found like this?

Both the snake and human were found dead.

The human apparently was not killed by the snake, because a tell-tale sign of Retic constriction is that they pop your aorta (rather than the often-though, but incorrect, notion that they suffocate you), yet this guy's was later found to be intact.

The snake's tragedy is that it got down to the human's shoulders, couldn't get its jaws around them, but couldn't back up due to the angle of its teeth (unlike say, an Anaconda, which can vomit anything no matter how much its swallowed). Apparently, something/someone found the snake during its time of vulnerability and killed it. Notice the blood around its head.

What led authorities to believe that this situation was not staged is the fact that the dude's head was covered in mucous and partially dissolved. This could not have occurred had the snake been placed there post-mortem; as it would not have produced the secretions, nor would they have had time to dissolve the guy's head.




...also, the irony of this thread is that the Reticulated Python and Water Moccasin are the only two snakes known to eat carrion.
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:17 am

By the time the snake tries to eat it's prey, it is already dead. The snake's body is pure muscle (in zoos the estimate is to have one strong man per meter snake) and extremely strong. Constrictors wind themselves around the victim and squeeze it to death, cracking all ribs and bones. After the victim stops moving they try to eat it. While many snakes can unhinge their lower jaw and some even have a flexible joint to seperate the lower jaw into two halves to eat big food, apparently the snake could only get the head of the man into it's mouth. The shoulders were to big. Apparently the snake has been chewing on the head, resulting in the blood on the shoulders, or the victim might have bled from mouth and nose due to lung damage from being squeezed.

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Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:27 am

Quoting SATL382G (Reply 7):
Can't say I blame the snake, I'd have been scared too......... I don't think she ever had chance to sit down....

With that picture, was that the end she tried to sit down on, or the end she speaks with?
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:29 am

As earlier said, the blood was the snake's, not the victim.

Also, no snake can "unhinge" its jaws (contrary to popular belief)... they can however (as you mentioned) operate both sides independently.  Wink

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Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:33 am

This is really creeping me out!


This lady is lucky to be fat.
Had she been a little twig perhaps the same size as her little son, she would have died.
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:43 am

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 41):
Also, no snake can "unhinge" its jaws (contrary to popular belief)... they can however (as you mentioned) operate both sides independently. Wink

They have an additional bone in between the upper jaw and the lower jaw on each side, called a quadrate,which makes the jaw joint a double hinge and allows wider opening. I've got schematics and drawings of snake skulls in various books i inherited from my palaeontologist father, but could find nothing on the web (I have seen snake skeletons as well in my father's university department).

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Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:55 am

MD11Engineer:
Will I need to be concerned when I visit The Phillipines?
Will I have to inspect the toilet everytime I need to use it?

What are the odds of a snake swiming up while on the potty?
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:05 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 42):
This lady is lucky to be fat.

That's also what saved the woman I spoke of in Reply#10.... she was too girthy for the retic to get her back through the hole.
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:09 am

ConcordeBoy:
Chubby Indonesian lady?
Hmmm I need to go and find her.  Wink
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:10 am

Actually I have never seen a snake in the Philippines. Plenty of huge frogs in the rice paddies, and in Iloilo City I once got woken up by a dirty rat running over my chest (It was in a boarding house in a poor area, where my ex and myself were staying in a room owned by one of her brothers and his wife. The room was spotless, but not the corridors, communal toilets and street and the walls were only plywood. The building was part of a compound, which got torn down a few years ago at the intersection Quezon St. and Ledesma St..) BTW, could you email me some pictures of Ililo City when you are there? I haven't been there for more than ten years.

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Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:24 am

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 43):
I've got schematics and drawings of snake skulls in various books i inherited from my palaeontologist father, but could find nothing on the web (I have seen snake skeletons as well in my father's university department).

ummm, Jan, cher....

...I'm from the DeepSouth (and bayou-country at that). You think I don't have snake and gator skulls somewhere in the house?  Wink

Quoting Superfly (Reply 44):
Will I have to inspect the toilet everytime I need to use it?

...gives new meaning to the term "courtesy flush" Big grin
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RE: My Worse Fear Happens To FL. Woman (Snake Related)

Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:31 am

I hear Guam has a huge problem with snakes....coming out of every crack and crevice in peoples' homes and what not.

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 48):
...I'm from the DeepSouth (and bayou-country at that). You think I don't have snake and gator skulls somewhere in the house?

Sounds like the South's response to the dreamcatcher.  vomit 
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