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England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:51 pm

After the drama of Edgbaston, the circus now moves to Old Trafford, where a hard, fast, bouncy pitch should suit the tall England bowlers, but also a certain Mr S Warne.

Will Australia take the massive gamble of including a half-fit Glenn McGrath? If he breaks down they're stuffed, as they'll only have three bowlers.

Who has the upper hand right now?

Will it piss down for five days as is usual in Manchester?
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:55 pm

I have NO idea what you're talking about.

Little background might help.
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:59 pm

Quoting BigPhilNYC (Reply 1):
I have NO idea what you're talking about.

Little background might help.

Cricket.

Well, I believe McGrath will play in the 4th test for sure, but maybe the 3rd is too early. However, he didnt look too bad in his 30 mins practice yesterday. Good to see Brett Lee has recovered though, although thats not good news for the England team.

Yes, it will piss down in Manchester.

My prediction: Australia to win by 100 runs or so...
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:06 pm

Quoting BigPhilNYC (Reply 1):
I have NO idea what you're talking about.

Mate, there are thousands of threads about baseball, US football, and the like where I don't have clue what you lot are on about. Then you confused all of us utterly by rabbiting on about Kenny Rogers without every pointing out it wasn't the country singer. Sauce for the goose.  Wink

Quoting GVBIG (Reply 2):
However, he didnt look too bad in his 30 mins practice yesterday

Bit of a difference between a 30 minute warm-up at half-pace and having to bowl 20 plus overs in a day. It's a huge risk. Brett Lee was always going to be OK. Once the antibiotics got to work he was fine.
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:28 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 3):
Mate, there are thousands of threads about baseball, US football, and the like where I don't have clue what you lot are on about. Then you confused all of us utterly by rabbiting on about Kenny Rogers without every pointing out it wasn't the country singer.

I'll mail you cash (from your own country) if you can find such posts from me.

Quoting Banco (Reply 3):
Sauce for the goose.

Yeah, again, I have NO idea what you're talking about.
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:38 pm

Quoting BigPhilNYC (Reply 4):
Quoting Banco (Reply 3):
Sauce for the goose.

Yeah, again, I have NO idea what you're talking about.

It's quite simple. People post things that those in other countries won't have a clue about. It's an international forum. It's the nature of the beast.

Just to take a selection at random from the front page:

Would You Run For President?

Can't. Don't have one.

Drew Rosenhaus Getting Destroyed By Letterman!

Never heard of him.

Zell Miller Appointed To War Monuments Commission.

Never heard of him.

Stores Closed On Sunday (Blue Laws)

Never heard of them.

Hugo Chavez Makes Ass Of Himself Again

Never heard of him.

Etc etc.
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:41 pm

Quoting BigPhilNYC (Reply 4):
Yeah, again, I have NO idea what you're talking about.

Banco you're going to have to stop speaking English to him - try some foreign languages and see if they work  Wink
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:43 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 5):
Would You Run For President?

Can't. Don't have one.

I wish I didn't either. :-p

Quoting Banco (Reply 5):
Drew Rosenhaus Getting Destroyed By Letterman!

Never heard of him.

Niether did I, which is why I gave the same complaint in that thread.

Quoting Banco (Reply 5):
Stores Closed On Sunday (Blue Laws)

Never heard of them.

Niether have I.

Quoting Banco (Reply 5):
Hugo Chavez Makes Ass Of Himself Again

Never heard of him.

Read a newspaper. (It's late, I'm cranky *kiss*)
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 6:20 pm

England win the toss and will bat.

McGrath is playing! Wow. I think there must have been some misinformation there, there's no way he could come back from a grade two ligament tear in a week. Got to be a big risk though. What price he turns his ankle in the first over?
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 6:26 pm

Good toss for England to win - looks a good batting track (rock hard). If England can bat past lunch on day 2 the win should more or less be taken away from the Kangaroos
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 6:29 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 8):
What price he turns his ankle in the first over?

I bloody hope so. No doubt England will take advantage of the weaker bowler(s) and, hopefully, make a nice big total for Australia to chase.
 
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 7:41 pm

Strauss out to a belter of a delivery by Lee (he's bowled well).
Strauss has had a poor series thus far.

The pitch is doing more than expected - a bit of swing already
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:21 pm

Quoting Ryanb741 (Reply 11):
The pitch is doing more than expected - a bit of swing already

Yeah. England are doing pretty well actually...93-1 at this stage...and our damn players are not helping either...giving away no balls and wides....  irked 
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:22 pm

Yup, Gilchrist isn't having the best of days anyway...
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:45 pm

I reckon England need to make around 400 runs on this track to put the Aussies under real pressure. The Aussie batsment won't relish facing Harmison and Flintoff on a pitch with reverse swing, but England do need to post a decent total first.

Expect Warne to get a bowl just after lunch.
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:22 pm

Ponting's getting a slating from Boycott for opening the bowling after lunch with Gillespie. Big grin

What has happened to Gillespie anyway? He was a real class act, but he seems to have fallen apart recently.
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:24 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 15):
What has happened to Gillespie anyway? He was a real class act, but he seems to have fallen apart recently.

Probably that dodgy hairstyle Big grin
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:28 pm

Gilchrist drops another! Big grin

And Vaughan has just been bowled off an no ball too!  rotfl 
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:30 pm

Not going Australia's way today - that's 3 good chances dropped and a no ball 'wicket'.

May be the song should be 'Are you England in disguise?!!?' Big grin
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:32 pm

Quoting Ryanb741 (Reply 18):
May be the song should be 'Are you England in disguise?!!?' Big grin

It's worse than that, the Aussies could be Scotland in disguise  scratchchin 
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:34 pm

The thing is with this series one team is on top and then a dramatic swing and the other side is leading. So England have had a pretty good morning, but I expect Australia to dominate other sessions. It's what makes this series so exciting
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:34 pm

Quoting Ryanb741 (Reply 18):
that's 3 good chances dropped

3? I was out this morning so I must have missed one. I know about the two Gilchrist drops, what was the other?
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:36 pm

Gilchrist has dropped at least 3 hasn't he?
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:36 pm

Trezza on 13 was dropped - not an easy chance mind
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:38 pm

And now Vaughan has reached his half century twice, due to the 2 runs from the no ball 'wicket' being credited against extras
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:38 pm

Quoting GVBIG (Reply 22):
Gilchrist has dropped at least 3 hasn't he?

Has he really? He's crap isn't he? Thank God we've got nice, safe, reliable Geraint Jones behind the timbers...  Wink
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:40 pm

Quoting Ryanb741 (Reply 24):
due to the 2 runs from the no ball 'wicket' being credited against extras

Unless he got an inside edge, it would count as byes wouldn't it? As a wicketkeeper myself, I'd be more than slightly miffed to have that go against my name! Big grin
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:40 pm

I'm sure the Aussies must be casting envious eyes at Geraint Jones, thinking 'if only he was Australian.....'  Wink
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:22 pm

Hmm. England going well this afternoon. 162-1, with Vaughan and Trescothick both going well. So which way will this go? England pile on to 500+, or they make their usual Horlicks of it and end up 350 all out?
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:26 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 28):
Hmm. England going well this afternoon. 162-1, with Vaughan and Trescothick both going well. So which way will this go? England pile on to 500+, or they make their usual Horlicks of it and end up 350 all out?

The latter, but I don't think we'll get past 300 knowing what we are normally like  Wink
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:31 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 26):
Unless he got an inside edge, it would count as byes wouldn't it?

They ran 2 after the ball deflected off the stumps. I don't think you can have a no-ball and byes off one delivery, so it all goes down as no-balls.

Treso just out. Ct Gilchrist (finally) b Warne.

600 up for Warne. Slightly fluky dismissal, Treso swept at the ball but missed, the ball hit his pad and then clipped the back of the bat, hit Gilchrist on the pad before lobbing up for the catch.

Slightly lucky, but well done to Warne. 600 Test wickets - some achievement.
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:37 pm

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 30):
I don't think you can have a no-ball and byes off one delivery, so it all goes down as no-balls.

Oh, of course it does. Silly me.  Yeah sure

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 30):
600 Test wickets - some achievement.

Absolutely. He's been an extraordinary cricketer.
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:45 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 28):
England pile on to 500+, or they make their usual Horlicks of it and end up 350 all out?

Yeah..the latter  biggrin 

Damn what the hell is wrong with Gilchrist...I'm going to sleep..not worth being awake at this time to watch this  irked 
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:49 pm

Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 32):
not worth being awake at this time to watch this

Oh, come now. Surely after all these years it's worth you Australians staying up to watch your team getting a hiding?  Wink
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:51 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 33):
Oh, come now. Surely after all these years it's worth you Australians staying up to watch your team getting a hiding?

Hehe...I don't think many Aussies are watching this....Alias was just on...much better  Wink
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:58 pm

Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 34):
Alias was just on

Is that the one where the Australian team pretend to be the best side in the world?  Wink
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:28 pm

A good start for England in both Morning and Afternoon sessions, nice to see Michael Vaughan getting a decent total posted after some poor batting performances in recent matches. Tresco was unlucky but Australia did deserve the wicket, they've been unlucky thus far with Gilco dropping a couple and the no ball catching out MV. I was looking forward to this match and so far it hasn't disappointed. Lets hope Ian Bell can post a decent score and get back on track. We still have Freddie and Pieterson in the wings so all is not lost if the Aussies take a wicket or two after tea.

All in all, this is shaping up to be another excellent test match, and arguably Englands best chance to claim victory.

EDIT: Vaughan makes first Century of the Series, and not a moment too soon!

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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:01 am

Yep. Well batted Michael Vaughan. A little luck, it has to be said, what with being dropped and then bowled off a no ball, but he's made the most of it all right.

McGrath just seems to be struggling a little in the field with his ankle. So, England's task has to be to keep him out there for another day or so and make Australia really regret the gamble.

Incidentally, Warne is bowling extremely defensively around the wicket to Vaughan, who is just kicking him away. Presumably Barfbag is extremely irate about it, given what he thinks of Ashley Giles.  Wink
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:28 am

Ah, marvellous. Gillespie comes back on and Vaughan promptly deposits him into the stand for six. Then he follos that up with boundary after boundary.

The old boy has gone from one of the best bowlers in the world to pie chucker in the last few months. What fun! Big grin
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:37 am

Go Vaughny, it's your Birthday! (repeat)


Edit: He'll probably get bowled out now.

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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:39 am

Quoting Banco (Reply 38):
one of the best bowlers in the world to pie chucker in the last few months.

What a waste of pies !

No doubt JGP1HA is running around the pitch desperately trying to save as many pies as he can Big grin
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:39 am

And Australia have just dropped another one!  rotfl 

Matt Hayden this time. And Vaughan has just gone to 150 with successive boundaries off the hapless Gillespie.
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:41 am

Quoting Cornish (Reply 40):
No doubt JGP1HA is running around the pitch desperately trying to save as many pies as he can

Oh. Is that who Warnie's having a fight with?  Wink
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:45 am

Quoting Banco (Reply 42):
Oh. Is that who Warnie's having a fight with?

 rotfl 

So sad to see two grown Sumo Wrestlers fighting like children  Wink
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:58 am

Vaughan's gone!!

Superb innings!

It's time for pietersen now!  Big grin

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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Fri Aug 12, 2005 1:03 am

Good innings from Vaughan but it could quite easily have been cut short had it not been for the incompetence of the Australian fielders... Now you know what it feels like!  Wink. Lets hope Ian Bell can stay in now and Kevin Pieterson can play himself in well and then we should be looking at a good 450-500 runs on the board provided wickets don't fall in the morning session.

Still, some excellent shots from Vaughan and a good shame that he didn't put that full toss out of reach!
 
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Fri Aug 12, 2005 1:03 am

Yes, Vaughan finally picked out someone who could catch. Shame really, he had 200 for the taking. Ah well.
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Fri Aug 12, 2005 1:50 am

Pietersen out!!

There was really no need to do that!

Matt Hoggard Out As the night watchman!

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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:12 am

Pitersen lives by the sword and dies by it too. It's the way he plays. If he'd got a bit more bat on it, it'd have been six and everyone would have said how he was really rubbing the Aussie noses in it.

Hoggard did his job, even though he was out at the end. Flintoff won't have to come in until tomorrow morning.

Good day for England. 341-5 (including Hoggard) is a very good effort indeed.

Noticeable how McGrath was labouring at the end. He never got above 73 mph the entire over at the end.
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RE: England V Australia: 3rd Test

Fri Aug 12, 2005 7:29 am

I think this is finely balanced. The "old" England would probably end up 380 all-out. Let's see what the "new" England can make of this position. My gut feeling is that we really need 500+.

If anyone doubted the Aussies appetite for a fight, they only had to watch the last couple of Lee overs. He was easily the best bowler today. McGrath looked very laboured in his last over. Will be interesting to see what happens with his bowling tomorrow.

If (and it's a big one) England can post a big enough score to bowl Australia out and be in a position to enforce a follow-on, should they? My preference would be to bat again and leave Australia to bat last. I really wouldn't fancy us chasing 150-200 with Warne bowling on the last day.
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