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RIP Former NZ Pm David Lange

Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:23 pm

Former NZ PM dies at age 63. Hee was NZ PM form 1984-1989

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RE: RIP Former NZ Pm David Lange

Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:35 pm


I respect him most for sticking up for our anti-nuclear policy.

While I don't agree with it, he deserves a round of applause for doing what he thought was right and true.

His economic reforms enabled New Zealand to transform into a modern competitive market that we are reaping the benefits of.

That is the true test of a man.

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(P.S. As a little side note, isn't it interesting we're feel like outcasts for an anti-nuclear policy today (not then) despite the fact the United States is trying to rid the world of nuclear weapons.)

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RE: RIP Former NZ Pm David Lange

Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:41 pm

Lange was certainly one of those rare antipodean statesmen who commanded attention in almost any venue. He's certainly up there with the likes of Whitlam, Muldoon and Menzies in this regard.

He seemed to be a formidable man, a politician who took decisions on principle (anti-nuclear policy) in the face of huge American resentment. In doing so, he shaped New Zealand politics in a very significant way. No doubt this legacy will live on in New Zealand politics for years to come.

Just 63 years old. Such a shame.

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RE: RIP Former NZ Pm David Lange

Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:47 pm

This guy shaped (or reshaped) NZ as the country it is now.

People seem to emphasise the anti-nuke stuff but the real changes were economic, from basic controlled economy to probably the most truely free and liberal economy on the planet !

Truely a serious physical presence in person as well and not just because of his size. I met him several times with some special moments when in the navy during a tour of the south pacific and us and his camera and .....

- Actual event, launch of some foodie tourism project in the UK which DL attended. Another guest demures from the chocolates with the 'my bodies a temple' line. Lange replies, " ... well mines a warehouse so pass them over ".

RIP Dave, they're all small compared to you.
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RE: RIP Former NZ Pm David Lange

Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:59 pm

A guy who no doubt left a huge impact on New Zealand as a country. May he rest in Peace.
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RE: RIP Former NZ Pm David Lange

Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:25 am

This man was a true modern day national hero. His economic liberalization policies unleashed the entrepreneurial zeal of NZe'rs and enriched NZ.
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RE: RIP Former NZ Pm David Lange

Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:39 am

He always seemed a decent man as well as a politician, and stuck to his principles. A rarity in politics in any country.

A loss to our friends in NZ and RIP to a good and principled leader.
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RE: RIP Former NZ Pm David Lange

Mon Aug 15, 2005 5:20 pm

I was very saddened to hear of his passing. He was truly a witty and intellectual leader, and a skilled orator. His government made massive reforms which have laid the foundation for where New Zealand is at now. People may not agree with them all, but it can't be denied that he truly left his mark on the country.

The first time I heard he was ill was when he was interviewed on TV programme here in Australia. Having not been in NZ for a couple of years, I was shocked to see how ill he looked. It is really sad how quickly he deteriorated. It seems his mental prowess remained though - when his leg was amputated a couple of weeks ago, it had to be done under local anaesthetic (since he was too ill for general), and during the operation, he asked the surgeon if he was certain he was cutting off the correct leg.

For interest, there were a number of articles about David Lange in today's New Zealand Herald: (Politicians mark time for Lange passing) (Indian community pays homage to their champion) (Where he really stopped for a cuppa) (Obituary: David Russell Lange) (Tributes for David Lange) (Milestones in the life of David Lange) (David Lange, in his own words) (Editorial: Leader who enriched the nation) (Brilliant, flawed, master of irony) (David Lange's isolation in his last years) (David Lange's valedictory speech in Parliament August 22, 1996)

It is a terrible shame to see him pass away at such a young age. We have lost a great New Zealander, loved by many, and especially by his Mangere electorate. He will be sorely missed.

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RE: RIP Former NZ Pm David Lange

Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:49 am

I was going to post an obituary, but VirginFlyer has made that unnecessary!

Whether you agreed with some or all of his ideas, Lange was well beyond just being a big political fish in a small pond, well known abroad, albeit aided by the stupid and inept piece of French sabotage and US bullying, he certainly seemed a larger than life figure in more ways then one.
Not the standard buffed up, spin spouting politico.

His appearance in the 1985 Oxford Union debate on Nuclear arms is well remembered, his opponent was, wait for it, US fundamentalist nut Jerry Falwell!
Even if you did not agree with Lange's general stance, your sympathy would always be with this eccentric but worldly man, not the fanatic he was debating with.
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RE: RIP Former NZ Pm David Lange

Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:46 am

Wow that's quite young..... 63......

Anyway RIP

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