rootsair
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Stung By A Needle In Hospital!

Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:25 pm

Hi folks

I wanted to share with you these last 24 hours of stress. Yesterday I was assisting an operation for my Internship. Well the surgeon was just finished doing a stitch and the instrumentist then took the stitiching needle with the aid of a pin. Well she didn't see my hand was on the way and there it struck my finger. Luckily the injury wasn't too serious and actually no blood came out after I pressed it. Juste got the lab results and the patient had neither HIV, Hepatitis B or C( the latter remanis to be confirmed)

Just wanted t know if this already happened to other of my fellow A.netters since I have noticed quite a few are work with health care .


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RE: Stung By A Needle In Hospital!

Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:02 pm

Years ago, while in was in nursing school I got stuck by a needle hanging off of IV piggyback tubing (back when there were no such things as "needleless" systems).

Unfortunately, the guy was from jail (jailhouse tats, IVDU, prior blood transfusions) and was positive for Hep B (thankfully not HIV). I got two large injections of gamma globulin (see how old I am, lol) in my ass!
 
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RE: Stung By A Needle In Hospital!

Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:25 pm

Quoting Johnboy (Reply 1):
thankfully not HIV

Thank goodness. Nowadays(don't think it existed back there) people get post exposure prophylaxis which consists of a tritherapy drug treatment. This, however is a very heavy treatment full of secondary effects...... however still better than getting HIV
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lewis
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RE: Stung By A Needle In Hospital!

Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:34 pm

That sounds scary! Fortunately the patient didn't have any serious disease in his blood but I can imagine your agony when all that happened.
 
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RE: Stung By A Needle In Hospital!

Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:03 pm

A couple of months ago me and a colleague were performing bladder surgery on a dog; at one point of the procedure it was necessary to remove some of the bladder content. To do that, my colleague used 20 ml syringe and, after he finished, he raised the syringe nail-up to check the content. At the same time I was lowering my hand to reach for an instrument and got the damn 18G nail right into my hand. Plus, since the syringe was pushed against the patient body, it also injected some of its content.  Sad Urine is sterile, so no risk of infection but I can tell you that the pain was terrible! My colleague had to finish the operation almost all by himself, since I couldn't use my punctured hand. He deserved it for laughing at the incident at first  Wink
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RE: Stung By A Needle In Hospital!

Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:40 pm

Scary thing! Hope the hepatitis C is confirmed negative.

When my daughter was a flight attendant they had to pull the trashbags out of the lav enclosures. Twice she got a needle stick from a discarded syringe. Twice they had to take the needle and check its content and background. She had to sweat it out, waiting, wondering why someone was injecting themselves in an airplane lavatory. Both times it turned out to be legitimate insulin needles.

A few years ago I was instructing in a borrowed classroom back in the midwest. A heavy object fell off the wall as I was writing on the marker board and lacerated the back of my hand badly. I grabbed a couple of paper towels and went down to the office to ask about a first aid kit. They didn't have one (in violation of state law I'm sure) but she took the bloody wad of paper towels out of my hand, getting my blood all over herself. I was horrified at her casual handling of a total stranger's blood. Doesn't she watch the news?
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RE: Stung By A Needle In Hospital!

Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:16 am

I stuck myself with a Felivax needle a couple of years ago. It was right out of the sterile pack (I was assembling vaccines), hadn't been used for injection yet, and it didn't have solution in it either, but it stung like a @#$!! Since it was clean I didn't have to take any medication or fill out a report.


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RE: Stung By A Needle In Hospital!

Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:32 am

fortunately the only times i've been stuck were while working on cadavers...so it never was all that bad....i don't think schools would get cadavers with patients who had HIV/hepatitis, etc...

on a funny note, a friend of mine asked me many years ago if we were able to bring our cadavers home..i told him sure..i'll bring it in an ambulance, and somehow sneak it upto my condo with a big "nevermind the smell" sign.... spin 
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RE: Stung By A Needle In Hospital!

Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:43 am

I've been poked by two used hollow needles. One was an IV needle. The patient was negative and my subsequent testing was negative.

The second time I was poked by a needle used on a filthy transient man. He refused to be tested. So far I've been negative.

It's as just another job hazard for healthcare workers.

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RE: Stung By A Needle In Hospital!

Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:51 am

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 8):
He refused to be tested. So far I've been negative.

That should not be optional once a health care worker has been (possibly) exposed to anything he might have. What kind of a selfish son of a bitch would refuse to be tested?
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RE: Stung By A Needle In Hospital!

Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:52 am

Quoting RootsAir (Thread starter):
patient had neither HIV,

Well, based on my limited knowlegde on the subject, HIV can take several months to show up, so techinically the patient could have contracted it 2 weeks before and still show up as negative. I believe that if you go a 13 week period and still be negative (6 months is 100%), then you are pretty much in the clear.

Also, getting exposed to HIV doesnt automatically mean that you will catch it. There is a risk, but its not 100% certain.

Again, im no expert.. others here are probably better in answeing this.
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RE: Stung By A Needle In Hospital!

Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:57 am

Quoting Mt99 (Reply 10):

Well, based on my limited knowlegde on the subject, HIV can take several months to show up, so techinically the patient could have contracted it 2 weeks before and still show up as negative. I believe that if you go a 13 week period and still be negative (6 months is 100%), then you are pretty much in the clear.

an anamnesis was done to the patient who was a 70 year old man who has had cancer for the past 6 months and hasn't been in great condition... The anamnesis showed the man had no risk factor for the last 3 months (which is the time the test takes to show positive if ever he got something)...so I can take iot for granted the risk is minimal
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RE: Stung By A Needle In Hospital!

Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:17 am

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 9):
What kind of a selfish son of a bitch would refuse to be tested?

Someone who's afraid to find out the results. He probably participated in risky behavior and suspects that he's positive for hepatitis or HIV. Besides, he's a transient without a permanent address. He may not have wanted to wait around in the same area awaiting the results. He may not have cared about me or wanted to accept the responsibility to check back for the results later.

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RE: Stung By A Needle In Hospital!

Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:25 am

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 7):
cadavers

What the hell is one of thoses.

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RE: Stung By A Needle In Hospital!

Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:49 am

Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 13):
What the hell is one of thoses.

cadaver=dead body


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RE: Stung By A Needle In Hospital!

Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:41 am

So if you get pricked by an HIV/AIDS needle, am I correct in understanding you will be ok if you get treatment right away? If I recall within 24hrs you get treatment it is 100% you will kill the virus and within 48hrs 50% you will kill it. What exactly is the treatment and what are the secondaries?
 
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RE: Stung By A Needle In Hospital!

Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:49 am

Sean -

you take a course of the same medication that HIV+ patients take to control the progress of their disease. I think you take some of the protease inhibitors, but not AZT.


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