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Another Stereo Thread

Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:11 am

Yup. I need to post this again. This is because 1) I never tire of discussing stereos and 2) I've made a number of changes to mine.

Here is an old picture of how my stereo USED to look.

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Well I've never really been happy with this setup. It is too long (took up too much room) and as such, much of the wiring was exposed, lending itself to that sloppy "spaghetti bowl" or "spiderweb" look.

I finally addressed both concerns by rebuilding my system using some rack mounts. After seeing the finished product, I kept wondering why I hadn't done this three years ago?

The rackmount system looks much neater, much more organized and professional. Plus, it takes up a hell of a lot less floor space and neraly all of the wiring is hidden from view to the casual observer.

Although the racks look neat and compact, they were a bitch to put together. They weren't hard in the sense they required great thought or physical exertion. They were just tedious and time conduming. It took me 8 solid hours to put this system together.

Now for the changes. First, the Akai GX-747 reel to reel on the far left of the old layout is gone. I sold it. In its place, I installed a Teac X-1000R reel to reel. This is the earlier version of the X-2000R, which is still the centerpiece flagship unit. Next, I removed two of the 3 cassette decks shown in the old layout. I felt that 3 decks was a bit excessive. In the new setup, I only installed two cassette decks. The primary is of course my beloved Denon DN-790R. Neither of the other two decks were installed. They are now in storage. Instead, I put in a Denon DN-720R deck, which is the lower model version of the 790.

Moving on, I removed the old Bose Satellite system. Those are now in the living room, running off the TV/DVD/VCR/Cable. In their place, I put in that pair of Infinity Kappa 7 speakers that my dad finally gave me. He has had them since 1992 or so but hardly ever used them. The sound, construction, and quality of them would cost a fortune today-if such speakers could be found at all. At only about 40" tall, EACH speaker weighs roughly 75 pounds. Indeed, he gave them to me with a stipulation: that I can use them for as long as I want, but should I ever tire of them, I cannot give them away or sell them. They are to be returned to him.

And lastly, my old Philipps CD-R unit is finally on its way out. In its place will be installed a beautiful Denon DN-C550R dual well unit.

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RE: Another Stereo Thread

Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:26 am

This is a few years old.
I really like this furniture I bought. It was a clearance item back in 2000 at Good Guys and had been marked down to $785. It had been $1400.
There is a similar model still sold but it has a fancier trim and it sales for $3500!
That's a bit much.
I like the fact that this unit is enclosed and has self space that is wide and deep to hold older stereo componets. It also has storage on the bottom for LPs and has draws I use to store my most valuable 8track tapes.
The center opening is intended for a big screem TV but I got a little creative.
As you can see, I have two extra record crates, storage for VHS and audio cassettes, as well as my Teac reel to reel deck and 27" color TV.



New additions not in the photo.
-Go Video VHS/DVD player
-Yamaha K-550 cassette deck
-VHS holders are all in matching woodgrain venre

Items on the way;
-RCA Selectavison CED VideoDisc player
-Sony Betamax player/recorder
-Harmon Kardon CD recorder
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RE: Another Stereo Thread

Tue Sep 13, 2005 4:30 am

You have a nice setup there bro, but I'd love to see an updated picture! How's your reel to reel situation coming along?
 
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RE: Another Stereo Thread

Tue Sep 13, 2005 5:33 am

Yes I'll buy another Teac A3340S but it is several purchases away.
I am going to take a few short trips (NYC), Chicago and possibly 'sneak' down to L.A. to see a lady friend of mine.

I plan on doing a 'friends only' trip to LA. before the year is out. That's when we need to check out Armatron, Pinnacles Steakhouse and Northswoods Inn.  Cool
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RE: Another Stereo Thread

Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:44 am

I'd be down for that. I just hope you don't plan to hit Pinnacles AND North Woods on the same day. That's way too much food.

Speaking of Ametron, I'm planning on taking a ride out there on Saturday. Need anything?
 
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RE: Another Stereo Thread

Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:52 am

Quoting Matt D (Reply 4):
I'd be down for that. I just hope you don't plan to hit Pinnacles AND North Woods on the same day. That's way too much food.

Oh of course not.

Quoting Matt D (Reply 4):
Speaking of Ametron, I'm planning on taking a ride out there on Saturday. Need anything?

If they have anymore Type IV Metal bias blank cassette tape, I'll need some.
Let me know if they have anymore 10" blank reels.
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RE: Another Stereo Thread

Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:55 am

Last time I was there (about a month ago), they still had TONS of those 3M Blackwatch Metal tapes. Indeed those are on my shopping list. How many do you want? They are $3.49 each-their price. No markup from me. I can also get you as many Maxell MX 60's you want-if you like C-60's.

As for 10" reel tape, you tell me what you want and how many. I can get any kind you want, between my stash and my connections, you name it. I'll get it.

[Edited 2005-09-13 22:56:54]
 
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RE: Another Stereo Thread

Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:05 am

Quoting Matt D (Reply 6):
I can get any kind you want, between my stash and my connections, you name it. I'll get it.

Will I have to meet you down at the docks after midnight to get them?  Silly



Don't go overboard now. How much are the 10" blanks?
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RE: Another Stereo Thread

Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:18 am

Nah, I'll discreetly ship them out to you. Actually, I'll have Jen ship them to you, since she has access to a FedEx commercial account, and she gets better rates.

Depending on what kind you want, but they are generally in the $30 per roll range, plus or minus a few. If you want an old Maxell, it will probably be closer to about $25. If you want Quantegy GP9, that stuff is closer to about $40 a roll.

I can also get you 1200' and 1800' 7 inchers as well.
 
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RE: Another Stereo Thread

Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:28 am

I'd prefer an older Maxell reel.
I'll go with two of those.
Are any of the 3M Black Watch tapes 90 or 100 minutes?
I'll take a few C-60s if there are none longer in length.

Let me know how much $$$ I'll need to send.
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RE: Another Stereo Thread

Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:35 am

3M Blackwatch is available in 74 and 100 only.

You want two Maxells?

For you, $20 ea (a steal). For everyone else, I charge a helluva lot more. And of course, I only sell virgin and unused tapes-which is what you'll get.

Just tell me which two you want (choose from the pictures), along with how many Blackwatches you want, and I'll get a total for you (we'll work the rest out offline)




 
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RE: Another Stereo Thread

Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:46 am

Matt and I share the same Infinity speaker, me thinks.
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RE: Another Stereo Thread

Wed Sep 14, 2005 7:41 am

I'll go with these.


Also the 3M Black watch 100 minutes.
I'll settle for 74 if that's all they have.
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RE: Another Stereo Thread

Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:59 am

Superfly, just one piece of advice: Put the tape deck away from the TV as soon as possible!!

Every time you switch on the TV, it will activate its degaussing coil to demagnetize the CRT colour grid.

In addition to that, the CRT deflection coils produce significant magnetic fields constantly while the TV is running.

Both are pretty much exactly working like the erase head of the tape deck itself, only at somewhat lower intensity.

As a result you'll notice accelerated degradation of your tape recordings (increased noise, loss of higher frequencies) - quite possibly in an "uneven" fashion as well since the part of the tape coil that's closest to the TV will be erased more than the rest...
 
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RE: Another Stereo Thread

Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:02 am

Klaus:
Thanks man but I removed those tapes away from the TV 3 years ago when I took that photo. Matt D had warned me.
What about my VHS tapes below?
Is that sold oak 2 inches thick board enough protection?
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RE: Another Stereo Thread

Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:44 pm

Well, oak is practically no protection at all - the only measures that help are distance and metal shielding.

At that distance from the tube the tapes will probably wear out mechanically before VHS will allow you to notice any difference anyway...
 
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RE: Another Stereo Thread

Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:31 pm

Well just to bring in some different brand names (I don't really have to say anything new  Wink Big grin):

I'm still with my Rotel equipment using big and beautiful Bowers&Wilkens speakers here in FRA...and still extremely happy with it!

At the Berlin flat I have my older equipment set up:

Akai GX 270 tape machine, Sansui TU-9900 tuner, big old Scott cassette player, Amp is Denon, CD player Marantz, Thorens turntable.

Last year I replaced my old Yamaha speakers (big and heavy...around 25 years old) with some neat little Bowers&Wilkens on stands...looks much better in 20square meter living room..and sounds much better, more transparent, no more brute force basses I had to reduce using sound regulation (usually I hate that, but now it's back to flat (tone regulation off) and I like it much better.

Other than that I spend my bucks on music rather than on equipment: CDs, CDs, CDs, and since about a year, DVDs (just over the 400 mark now). CDs just above the 2,000 mark, vinyls around 4,000, but the latter group is closed, no more acquisitions there.

Now that I think about it...I could do with a new flat...2 more rooms or so, organising those discs becomes increasingly difficult (part in FRA, part in Berlin).
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RE: Another Stereo Thread

Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:28 am

Quoting Andreas (Reply 16):
Akai GX 270 tape machine, Sansui TU-9900 tuner, big old Scott cassette player, Amp is Denon, CD player Marantz, Thorens turntable.

That is a sweet set up.  bigthumbsup 

Quoting Klaus (Reply 15):
the only measures that help are distance and metal shielding.

How about copper?
I have some metal copper plates in the basement.

I hardly ever turn on my TV though.
I haven't noticed any lose in quality of my video tapes.
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RE: Another Stereo Thread

Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:11 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 17):
That is a sweet set up.

And the best part is: The CD player is about 5 years old, the rest at least 15 years, 22 years the oldest (Tuner).

And even better: That Tuner does still have a big analog display, with a beautiful green-blue light...turn off all other lights and it looks very romantic in combination with that yellow display of the Akai...the ladies love it  Wink Big grin
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RE: Another Stereo Thread

Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:44 am

Quoting Andreas (Reply 18):
That Tuner does still have a big analog display, with a beautiful green-blue light...turn off all other lights and it looks very romantic in combination with that yellow display of the Akai...the ladies love it

Who needs candles when you have analog audio equipment!?!?  Silly
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RE: Another Stereo Thread

Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:11 am

This has to be the first time Andreas is getting romantic.  Wow!

And how many CDs, DVDs do you have, my dear Marmota monax? Isn't there a legal limit so others can have some, too?
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RE: Another Stereo Thread

Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:21 am

I am probably one of the few people on earth that has more 8tracks than CDs.
I only have 100 compact disc.
However, I have:
4000+ LPs
2000+ 8tracks
150 reel to reels
5 cassette tapes (210 blank mix tapes)



Video:
150 VHS
8 DVDs
10 Betamax
15 DEC VideoDisc
2 Laser disc


Looking for a 16mm movie projector with stereo line out.
16mm movies are very expensive.  

[Edited 2005-09-16 19:21:44]
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RE: Another Stereo Thread

Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:56 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 17):
How about copper?
I have some metal copper plates in the basement.

Copper shielding would primarily reduce the higher-frequency magnetic fields of the horizontal deflection coils somewhat (operating at about 15 kHz on single-rate CRTs) while doing little about the lower-frequency vertical deflection (at 60 Hz with NTSC) and the degaussing coils (in the same range).

Copper primarily helps against high frequencies; For full-range shielding you'd need ferromagnetic materials such as iron or steel (but those could get magnetized themselves, in that case exacerbating the problem).

For the video tapes the distance is probably sufficient as it is, while the reels of your tape had almost been touching the degaussing coil around the frame of the CRT before...

Quoting Superfly (Reply 17):
I hardly ever turn on my TV though. I haven't noticed any lose in quality of my video tapes.

With VHS any further deterioration is hard to notice anyway...
 
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RE: Another Stereo Thread

Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:10 am

Any of you guys going to make Johan a mixed tape?  duck 

I'm at home (parents) right now, so I'll post what's behind my back:

Pioneer CT-443 cassette deck
Marantz model 2245 receiver
Revox A77 reel to reel deck
Marantz CD-40 CD player
Uher 4400 tape deck (that's one small, strange thing)
Thorens TD 160 turntable

speakers: 2x Canton LE 400 in front of me,
2x Scansound P-35 in the other part of the living room

In Heidelberg, I have a receiver, CD player, tape deck and centre speaker (the latter two are hardly ever used) made by Pioneer, my "old" speakers which I now use as surround speakers are made by B&W and the current main speakers are made by Tannoy. I dont have the types here up North, though.
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RE: Another Stereo Thread

Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:17 am

Klaus,

What is your position on the subject of speaker wire? Radioshack vs $3000/ft .... Still have not heard a clear answer.

Thanks
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RE: Another Stereo Thread

Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:53 am

I haven't touched my setup for quite a while... Luxman amplifier, Revox speakers and relatively normal (but solid diameter) copper cables between them... Fed at this time mostly from the D/A converters in my G5. I guess I'll get around to switching to an optically coupled external D/A converter eventually.

I doubt many people (if any at all) can really distinguish between different cable types just by listening. A good cable diameter, solid connections on both ends and a good match between amplifier and speakers are much more important as far as I can see. And, of course, avoid bass reflex speakers like the plague...!
 
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RE: Another Stereo Thread

Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:43 pm

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 20):
This has to be the first time Andreas is getting romantic.

Ah Norbert, as usual you don't get the point here: It's the ladies that need to get romantic, I just want a decent f...you know what. And as Superfly has pointed out, it spares you the candles  Wink Big grin

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 20):
And how many CDs, DVDs do you have, my dear Marmota monax? Isn't there a legal limit so others can have some, too?

I posted this in another thread a few weeks ago and got myself some very envious comments from you ...so I won't repeat it, go search the archive! (Hint: A lot!!!) Big grin

Quoting Klaus (Reply 25):
I doubt many people (if any at all) can really distinguish between different cable types just by listening. A good cable diameter, solid connections on both ends and a good match between amplifier and speakers are much more important as far as I can see. And, of course, avoid bass reflex speakers like the plague...!

Hooray!!! We finally agree on something!!  Wink

When I bought my big set of B&W speakers, we had us a little cable test, just to try it out. Of course we didn't actually use the cables that come with the equipment, these are only to tie down the speakers during transportation. I got a set of decent diameters and gold connectors...around 150 Euro for the complete set.

Now the cables that link your electronic equipment...there we could distinguish a lot of difference. It really pays to fork out some cash here, so I got myself cables for the Tuner-Amp and the CD-Amp link in the 100 Euro range (each 100, that is). I found these to sound much better than the OEM stuff. To go even more xpensive (the above mentioned 3000 USD range): No! That's pure voodoo, hifi juju, nothing else...makes the manufacturer rich, and nobody else.
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RE: Another Stereo Thread

Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:57 am

Superfly: I have your merchandise for you. You never specified how many 3M Blackwatch C-100 Metal "4040" tapes you wanted, so I figured two boxes of 10 would be a good start. I have more available if you want. Contact me offline if you still want the tapes.

http://x-2000r.angelcities.com/images/tapestuff/SuperflysTapes.JPG
 
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RE: Another Stereo Thread

Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:58 am

Superfly: I have your merchandise for you. You never specified how many 3M Blackwatch C-100 Metal "4040" tapes you wanted, so I figured two boxes of 10 would be a good start. I have more available if you want. Contact me offline if you still want the tapes.

http://x-2000r.angelcities.com/images/tapestuff/SuperflysTapes.JPG
 
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RE: Another Stereo Thread

Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:23 am

All my high-end equipment burned in an apartment fire. (Now I know to make sure I have renter's insurance). I had a pair of Martin-Logan SL3's, with the electrostatic panel and 13 inch subwoofers in each speaker. High end, Monster Cable wiring (not the stuff you can get a Best Buy), and B&K two channel pre-amp, two channel amplifier, B&K CD player, and some high end Sony products, including a superaudio CD player. Reason for two channel is that I listen to classical music. Two channels are enough. At any rate, it's all fried and burned. Was the worst day of my life. Now, I'm sticking to $250 worth of Altec-Lansing computer speakers LOL.

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