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Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:01 am

Am I the only one that thinks the Peugeot 1007 is a cool car?
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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:10 am

Is it a smart car? Is it a minivan? No one can tell!

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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:17 am

Time will tell, but surely something you wish for sometimes when you ride a lot on ferries....
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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:17 am

I really dont want to know what happens when this thing gets hit by an SUV...
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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:27 am

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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:28 am

I think it's a really cool little car, those sliding doors are ideal in cities where parking spaces are limited...plus it has received a 5-star rating in the Euro NCAP crash test - apparently it is the highest scoring car ever in all classes for adult occupant protection.
 
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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:36 am

I think the question is: Do you really want that funky sliding electric door (prone to defects) THAT BAD???
I definitely see the 3dr./5dr. 307 as a better value for the same money or perhaps the 107 as basically the same car for much less money.
I predict it to be another Avantime I'm afraid.
 
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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:58 am

Horrible color of gold or orange or whatever in that flash movie. Yikes !  Sad
 
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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:11 am

Quoting MNeo (Reply 3):
I really dont want to know what happens when this thing gets hit by an SUV...

The SUV would not be as safe a place to be riding in. Most of them are poor performers, the 1007 gets five stars in EuroNCAP.

Many SUVs only get two stars.
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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:25 am

Quoting Airdolomiti (Reply 5):
apparently it is the highest scoring car ever in all classes for adult occupant protection.

In all classes, or just its own? (A five-star supermini is not necessarily as safe as a five-star limousine.)

I had a bit of a sit-in-and-prod with a 1007 at the Pembrokeshire County Show last month (yes, the glamour! The luxury!). It seems a pretty funky little device to my eyes as I'd expected, but also worryingly compromised. There was minimal rear legroom and a pathetic boot for a car that long (yes, I know the rear seats do tricks, but there's not fundamentally a great deal of room for them to do tricks in). The sliding doors, while not as slow as I'd been led to expect, would nevertheless be much more user-friendly in certain situations if they were manual - although I accept the Advantages Of The Button when you're laden with children, shopping and assorted other trinkets. (Although not too many, as you'd struggle to fit them in the car.) I was also struck at how far the upper rail for each door intruded into my peripheral vision at the top outer corner of the windscreen.

Ultimately, I think the 1007 really, really needs to tap into the kind of "premium trinket" market so successfully employed by BMW with the Maxi Mini MINI. If Peugeot gets the marketing, pricing and image right, it'll sell lots of 1007s to people who just like the car, and can put up with poor packaging and, oh yes, that reportedly abysmally slow 1.4 petrol. (Or is the 1.4HDi? Or both? I can't remember offhand.)

I really hope it succeeds - I love the car! Flawed but so individual  Smile

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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:16 pm

The important thing is to iron out all the early bugs as soon as possible, since
I think it can appeal to many people in urban areas like the Smart microcar did, with one or two persons in the household.
Inital complaints by test-drivers has been the difficulty to access the rear
seat...
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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:26 pm

I drove the car... It's fun to drive! But I'd rather have another car, I think.

By the way, will this car be for sale in your home country, Allessandro? The smallest cars of some brands were not sold in Sweden, I think. (Peugeot 106, any Lancia, Volkswagen Lupo, those kind of cars...)
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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:27 pm

Quoting Airdolomiti (Reply 5):
those sliding doors are ideal in cities

Agreed, another thing to break  Sad

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 8):
gets five stars in EuroNCAP.

Safety first, should be good...
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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:41 pm




yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:53 pm

Is it only me who thinks it resembles an invalid car?  Wink

But I admire them for doing something different..

Quoting RedDragon (Reply 9):
oh yes, that reportedly abysmally slow 1.4 petrol. (Or is the 1.4HDi? Or both? I can't remember offhand.)

The problem being that those elctric doors, while very cool are also extremely heavy, so weighing down what would be an otherwise light car - meaning the enignes struggle a bit.

Quoting RedDragon (Reply 9):
Ultimately, I think the 1007 really, really needs to tap into the kind of "premium trinket" market so successfully employed by BMW with the Maxi Mini MINI. If Peugeot gets the marketing, pricing and image right, it'll sell lots of 1007s to people who just like the car, and can put up with poor packaging

Well apparently it is going to be priced on the high side, so it will have to appeal to the premium trinket market - i heard prices would be similar to low end Focuses, Astras and Golfs - if true thats risky for a car that doesn't have a premium badge.

Also the Mini is incredibly successful thanks to dynamic looks and driving experience (the Cooper is a GREAT car to drive). I understand from a couple of min owning friends that the dealer service is first class too - something,at least in the UK, Peugeot does not have a good reputation for.

But I'm not sure it has the looks to appeal to the young professional market that the Mini has captured so well. I considered a Mini before I fell in love with the A3, but somehow I couldn't see myself driving the 1007.

Unless Peugeot can court the Pink Pound and take over from the Smart as the gay city car of choice  Wink
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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:39 pm

Lupo, Smart and 1007 are sold in Sweden. Some smaller cars never make it here, like the Citroën Saxo.
Cornish, there´s two engine options, 1,4 or 1,6 liter, perhaps the 1,4 is a bit
on the weak side. You can drive with the doors open but the problem with
that is that the rear indicators become hard to see.
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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:50 pm

Quoting Alessandro (Reply 15):
Cornish, there´s two engine options, 1,4 or 1,6 liter, perhaps the 1,4 is a bit
on the weak side.

Ah that'd be right - go for the 1.6 then or it might have trouble getting up hills !
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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:31 am

Quoting Cornish (Reply 14):
Is it only me who thinks it resembles an invalid car?  Wink

Harsh...  Smile

Quoting Cornish (Reply 14):
The problem being that those elctric doors, while very cool are also extremely heavy, so weighing down what would be an otherwise light car - meaning the enignes struggle a bit.

The electric doors, plus the large glass area (especially the windscreen) and general overbodied design.

Prices are £10,850-£12,600 - not cheap for a supermini, although they probably can't do it for much less given the level of safety and engineering involved.

Quoting Cornish (Reply 14):
But I'm not sure it has the looks to appeal to the young professional market that the Mini has captured so well. I considered a Mini before I fell in love with the A3, but somehow I couldn't see myself driving the 1007. Unless Peugeot can court the Pink Pound and take over from the Smart as the gay city car of choice

What - then you'd consider it? :P From the print advertising they've used so far, they're aiming at the Girlie Market - I'm not sure they do the car in pink. Fortunately.
 
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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:49 am

I quite like the 1007 especially with the 1.4 HDi engine. But the problem is that the car is a bit too small for me. Maybe I could trade-in my 307sw for 2 1007's. Might be a very good idea to get 2 cars.  cool 
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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:56 am

I've always praised Peugeot for their good looking cars and designs, but this is just fuc**ng ugly.

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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:05 am

Quoting Aer Lingus (Reply 18):
Maybe I could trade-in my 307sw for 2 1007's. Might be a very good idea to get 2 cars.  cool 

Unless you've got more moola, or an SW that's appreciated in value, I don't think that's gonna happen  Wink

On a random, semi-related note: why does PSA (and Ford, for that matter) seem so reluctant to fit/offer the higher-power 1.4HDi? It's available in the C3 (a very entertaining combination), but not much else. Surely only offering the lower-power version with, what, just about 70bhp in a car as big, bluff and heavy as the 1007 - or Fusion, or Pluriel, or 206CC - is asking for trouble? I wouldn't have thought there were any significant packaging problems with the 92bhp version, as, as far as I was aware, the differences amount to 8v vs 16v. Am I barking up the wrong automotive tree entirely?

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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:32 am

Quoting MD11junkie (Reply 19):
I've always praised Peugeot for their good looking cars and designs, but this is just fuc**ng ugly.

Couldn't agree more. I'll stick to my 2004 Peugeot 206 for now, while I save up for my new Peugeot 307 2.0-16v XSi  yummy 

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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:56 pm

Funny that Pug have two cars out in roughly the same class. The new 207 looks nice though.

Peugeot and Renault have always been uncommonly good at the engineering side. Their engines run forever (Pug did have a spate of very dodgy gearboxes a few years back) and are lovely drivers. A 1.2 Clio I drove a few years back had a surprising amount of power for its size.

Peugeot diesels are legendary. Ford used to licence them for the Sierra.
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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:17 pm

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 22):
Peugeot and Renault have always been uncommonly good at the engineering side.

There may be a rugged engine or two made by these manufacturers that turned out cheap to operate, or practical. However, let there be no confusion. The biggest improvement from Renault is its marketing ideas in discovering new markets, and from Peugeot.. well their handling, and the fact that Pinifarina designs most of its cars. But engineering wise... Renault is getting its engines from Nissan and Peugeot was from Volvo.
Engine, gearbox, and other mechanical items are and will always be very rugged and unpleasant to use on these cars for anyone with an engineering sense like me, except for the roadhandling of Peugeot's that is always nailed correctly.

The last time Renault was champion in F1, we always heard that "the best engine manufacturer in races is the worst on the road". This almost hasn't changed today..

I almost died in a Renault Scenic on a German highway once. The car wobbles around like a ship. Also, the gearbox was like a huge piece of caoutchouc..

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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:57 pm

Quoting Kay (Reply 23):
and from Peugeot.. well their handling, and the fact that Pinifarina designs most of its cars.

Er not any more - the 306/406 era were Pininfarina designs, but the 206 onwards including the 307, 407, etc are all in-house Peugeot designs.

Quoting Kay (Reply 23):
Renault is getting its engines from Nissan and Peugeot was from Volvo.

Not the diesels which are the French brands main strength. As for the higher end engines, the V6s and the like were Renault, Peugeot, Volvo co-designed and produced engines.

Quoting RedDragon (Reply 17):
Quoting Cornish (Reply 14):
But I'm not sure it has the looks to appeal to the young professional market that the Mini has captured so well. I considered a Mini before I fell in love with the A3, but somehow I couldn't see myself driving the 1007. Unless Peugeot can court the Pink Pound and take over from the Smart as the gay city car of choice

What - then you'd consider it? :P From the print advertising they've used so far, they're aiming at the Girlie Market - I'm not sure they do the car in pink. Fortunately.

good god no. I'm far too butch to drive a Smart or 1007  Wink My point being that if they want to find a niche market with money to buy it then perhaps the pink pound is the way to go, for the more camp of our countrymen, a la Smart  Wink remeber gay people can make siomething extremely fashionable.

Besides do you really think I'm going to trade the Audi in for a 1007??  Wink

Actually talkin gof Audi brings me on to the A2 - there was a car that in theory should have been a hit. Small, light and with a premium badge. It sohlu dhave been able to sel even at its expensive price for what it was - but it didn't and thats my point about the 1007 against the Mini - its got to be spot on for the market that's prepared to pay extra - young professionals with no kids- or its going to be a sales flop.

I actually had an audi A2 for a day while my A3 was getting serviced earlier in the year. Much as i was prepared to hate it, with the 1.4 Tdi it was actually tremendous fun to drive, very agile and had stacks of space.
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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Wed Sep 14, 2005 7:21 pm

I believe Pininfarina didn't design the whole 406 family, only the 406 coup�.
 
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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:29 pm

Quoting Kay (Reply 23):
There may be a rugged engine or two made by these manufacturers that turned out cheap to operate, or practical. However, let there be no confusion. The biggest improvement from Renault is its marketing ideas in discovering new markets, and from Peugeot.. well their handling, and the fact that Pinifarina designs most of its cars. But engineering wise... Renault is getting its engines from Nissan and Peugeot was from Volvo.
Engine, gearbox, and other mechanical items are and will always be very rugged and unpleasant to use on these cars for anyone with an engineering sense like me, except for the roadhandling of Peugeot's that is always nailed correctly.

What a load.

Not even close. The old Volvo chestnut is exactly that. A chestnut and not even remotely near the facts. Unfortunately my experience of working for a company which had a large number of Peugeot and Renault vehicles which we ran happily and reliably for ages must bow to your (ahem) superior knowledge.

Renault made great engines well before their tie-up with Nissan. They are also hardly throwing out their entire range, and the technology transfer is the other way round. The latest Nissan 350 has the engine out of the VelSatis.

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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:41 pm

Thanks for the arrogant answer. Please allow me to retort.

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 26):
The latest Nissan 350 has the engine out of the VelSatis.

Renault are sucking the Nissan engines, that is the sweetest part of their deal with Nissan. Did you seriously think that Renault can develop a smooth V6? Look it up and sweat.

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 26):
my experience of working for a company which had a large number of Peugeot and Renault vehicles which we ran happily and reliably for ages

Renault and Peugeots are perfect for company cars: rugged and practical. I put agricultural machines in the same category. Sorry if I believe cars should bring someting more to my daily life than what a boring washing machine does. Maybe you don't know anything about cars.

Nothing you said is correct anyway.
Up yours.

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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:16 pm

To add to Whitehatter's post, not only is the technology transfer over to nissan, but many other manufacturers are using Renault and Peugeot diesel technology and even whole enignes in their cars.

Quoting Kay (Reply 27):
Renault are sucking the Nissan engines, that is the sweetest part of their deal with Nissan. Did you seriously think that Renault can develop a smooth V6? Look it up and sweat.

Actually the sweetest part of the Renault Nissan deal is that Renault took over a Japanese company that was in a terrible financial situation, losing sales worldwide with no identity and has now turned it into one of the most profitable car companies in the world right now, with a much stronger line up of cars, with cutting edge design and a rising badge prestige.

and what do you drive btw Kay ?? so we can put your views into context.
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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:28 pm

Cornish,

i am writing now from my pda... i am not talking about diesel engines (u must mean low-end diesel engines too, because >=6 cylinders is merc-bmw-etc area). Enjoy your bashing, but to envisage a Renault/Peugeot as an "engineering masterpiece"? nope.

why would what i drive matter? I drive a Z3.

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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:42 pm

Quoting Kay (Reply 29):
why would what i drive matter? I drive a Z3.

 rotfl 

Ah so that half-baked cynical hairdressers roadster from BMW that has the chassis of the VERY old 3-series  Wink

What was that about agricultural ?  Wink
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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:52 pm

Cornish,

the VERY old 3-series chassis, you mean the BEST part about my car?  Wink
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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:53 pm

Quoting Kay (Reply 31):
Cornish,

the VERY old 3-series chassis, you mean the BEST part about my car?
gimme a 1989 325i anyday..

Actually they were pretty special cars  Wink
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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:16 pm

"Actually they were pretty special cars"

Yup
 
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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:45 pm

Quoting Kay (Reply 33):
"Actually they were pretty special cars"

Yup

The Old 3 I mean - not the Z3  Wink
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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:19 am

yes, exactly, the Z3.
 
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RE: Peugeot 1007 Anyone?

Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:12 am

Interesting concept, but British automotive magazines disliked the car for its poor handling. For that type of money in the UK I'd rather get the Opel (neé Vauxhall) Meriva, Honda Jazz or Mitsubishi Colt instead.  Smile

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