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Is There Something Wrong With Me?!

Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:13 am

Hey

First of all, I don't know which forum this goes in, it's aviation related, but it doesn't fit into any of the other forums, anyway...

Recently, I've found out that I get most badly airsick on the B777, but all other aircraft it isn't as bad, is it something to do with the technical side of the aircraft and the affect on my body, for example, different pressurization, or different air being circulated.

Pretty stupid question I know, thanks for any answers in advance!

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RE: Is There Something Wrong With Me?!

Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:17 am

I would have either deleted this as AVB flame bait or moved it to tech ops, but what do I know.

I guess the question I'd like to know is there anything circumstantial to this? Was it a bumpier then normal ride did it feel smoother, but the wings moved alot anyway... were you in the middle Versus a window seat?? I'd like to know.
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RE: Is There Something Wrong With Me?!

Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:24 am

This is aviation related. There have been numerous such reports about the 777, especially in its early days as far as I remember...

The air conditioning or its operation has been under suspicion to be the cause of passengers feeling unwell on several occasions. I haven't followed the topic too closely, though, so I don't have any current information.
 
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RE: Is There Something Wrong With Me?!

Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:49 am

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 1):
but what do I know.

we're still trying to figure that out ourselves.
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RE: Is There Something Wrong With Me?!

Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:05 am

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 1):
I would have either deleted this as AVB flame bait

Um...why?

In regard to the 777, it very well could be a coincedence regarding your sickness.

Something to also think about is that the 777 is rumored to have a dryer cabin than other models. Possibly this dry air could be effecting you in some way?

Just throwing a theory out there.
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RE: Is There Something Wrong With Me?!

Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:05 am

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 1):
guess the question I'd like to know is there anything circumstantial to this? Was it a bumpier then normal ride did it feel smoother, but the wings moved alot anyway... were you in the middle Versus a window seat?? I'd like to know.

I would guess a non-window seat.

After reading up about this, one thing that causes the sickness is because your eyes are saying one thing, and your ears another.

For example, if your eyes are looking at a straight Object but the Plane is not level, signals from your eyes and ears collide, causing you to fell ill. As the ears are saying the Plane is not level, but your eyes are saying it is level. Looking at the horizon when on an Aircraft helps, as the ears and eyes work on the same note. That is why a window seat is recommended normally by Airlines.

This suggests if you shut your eyes, you should not have this problem.

One thing you should never do if you are prone to airsickness is read. Absolute no-no. Also try not to think about it, do something to take your mind of it. One thing that does help is concentrating on an Object, and keeping your eyes on it.

What I have said above is how I remember reading about it, but a few points may be incorrect or muddled up.

Cheers,

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RE: Is There Something Wrong With Me?!

Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:10 am

Quoting JpetekYXMD80 (Reply 4):
Something to also think about is that the 777 is rumored to have a dryer cabin than other models. Possibly this dry air could be effecting you in some way?

Yeah, I also get really bad nosebleeds and pain in my nose after 777 flights aswell!

Thanks for all the help, at least I have a vague idea why I feel so bad on this particular aircraft.

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RE: Is There Something Wrong With Me?!

Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:12 am

I hope this doesn't happen to me. I've got 4 trips aboard a B773 coming up in November and I want to enjoy my first time.....

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RE: Is There Something Wrong With Me?!

Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:26 am

Nobody should actually be scared of flying on a 777 - drinking plenty of (non-alcoholic) beverages will certainly make a bigger difference than relatively minor differences in air quality which are probably more due to the air condiitioning setup according to the airline's regulations than to the airframe model anyway.

Personally I'd prefer an A340, but I really see no cause for alarm on a 777 either.

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RE: Is There Something Wrong With Me?!

Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:54 am

Is there something wrong with you? Yes.

Now, I am going to read the original post....

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RE: Is There Something Wrong With Me?!

Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:05 am

Quoting AIHTOURS (Reply 5):
This suggests if you shut your eyes, you should not have this problem.

Actually it happens exactly the opposite way in airplanes. Closing your eyes makes you sicker, because your body feels the movement but for the liquid to move in your ears takes longer than the sensation does, so there is still a collision. With your eyes open, you are able to register what will happen in your ears and this is when you do NOT get sick. The thing to do, I've found, is sit in the back (or, whatever you do, do NOT sit in a bulkhead seat) and look up the aisle and focus at the farthest-most point you can see. Window seats do help sometimes, but not on takeoff or landing when the plane is nose-up or nose-down and your eyes and ears disagree. Try an aisle seat if you're on a widebody so you can see far, or if you're on a narrow-body, get a window seat but far from a bulkhead.

Another thing, as stated, is to drink a lot of liquids. The recommendation is 8 fluid ounces of water per hour of flight.

The BIGGEST thing, however, especially on a long east-bound flight, is rest. It has been proven repeatedly that being fatigued and then sleeping on a plane for less than 5 hours SEVERELY increases your chances of getting motion sickness. Now, I can never sleep on a plane, so I intentionally convince my parents to take morning flights to London and then connect (even though LHR is a pain). The night flight is just terrible for me.

So you may want to take those suggestions into mind next time you fly. Just my two cents.

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RE: Is There Something Wrong With Me?!

Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:23 am

Quoting Klaus (Reply 2):
This is aviation related. There have been numerous such reports about the 777, especially in its early days as far as I remember...

The air conditioning or its operation has been under suspicion to be the cause of passengers feeling unwell on several occasions. I haven't followed the topic too closely, though, so I don't have any current information.

Wrong. The air conditioning was responsible for F/A's feeling dizzy feeling dizzy during the cruise. The a/c system provided loads of flow for the passengers, but little at head-height in the aisles. The 777 sickness problem was linked to the aircraft banking too sharply. Software change fixed it.
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RE: Is There Something Wrong With Me?!

Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:46 am

I've always considered that having an isle seat contributes to my airsickness, so I do all I can to make sure I get a window seat, and it really helps.

Anyway, I've got some decent airsickness pills (FINALLY!) and they work very well, but I haven't used them properly on a 777 trip yet.

Thanks for all your help guys.

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RE: Is There Something Wrong With Me?!

Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:05 am

I've never been airsick on any flights. I have been flying for a long time. Its not too common from what I see. The barf bag is always there incase.
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