flyf15
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Gas Companies Not Involved With Middle East

Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:53 am

Does anyone know which gas companies are not involved with the middle east? I've heard that Citgo is solely Venzuelan, but I'm not sure. Does BP get all of its oil from the North Sea?

Also, are there any companies that get oil solely from the US? I think Sunoco might be one...

Thanks much!
 
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RE: Gas Companies Not Involved With Middle East

Mon Sep 19, 2005 5:27 am

>> Also, are there any companies that get oil solely from the US? I think Sunoco might be one...

There are tons of smaller, independent firms that work only in the US. My dad was in the petroleum industry and worked exclusivly in the US his entire career. Oryx comes to mind, but they were aquired by Kerr-McGhee....
 
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RE: Gas Companies Not Involved With Middle East

Mon Sep 19, 2005 5:41 am

Quoting Flyf15 (Thread starter):
Also, are there any companies that get oil solely from the US?

Yes there are actually lots of them. Just a few publicly listed one that come to mind:

Anadarko Petroleum
Petroquest
Callon Petroleum
Berry Petroleum
Houston Exploration and Production
Plains Exploration
KCS Engery
Teton Energy

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RE: Gas Companies Not Involved With Middle East

Mon Sep 19, 2005 5:45 am

Quoting Flyf15 (Thread starter):
Does BP get all of its oil from the North Sea?

BP has been huge in Alaska since the late 60's.

http://alaska.bp.com/
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RE: Gas Companies Not Involved With Middle East

Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:01 am

Quoting Flyf15 (Thread starter):
I've heard that Citgo is solely Venzuelan, but I'm not sure. Does BP get all of its oil from the North Sea?

No, and no. Citgo imports from the Middle East although most of its oil does come from Venezuela. BP also gets oil from the Middle East as well. Sunoco imports primarily from Canada, Angola, and Nigeria.
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RE: Gas Companies Not Involved With Middle East

Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:10 am

Ah, I suppose I kind of asked the wrong question. For gas stations, which ones can I be sure that if I'm pumping gas in my car, none of the oil had a chance of coming from the middle east? And, are there any where I can be sure the gas came from the US?
 
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RE: Gas Companies Not Involved With Middle East

Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:18 am

Quoting Flyf15 (Reply 5):
none of the oil had a chance of coming from the middle east?

Why would you want to do that ? It does not really make any difference. If you buy US domestic or Venezuelan or African oil someone else will buy the Arabian stuff.

As non-OPEC supplies are forecast to dwindle over the next years, the market share of the middle eastern producers is forecast to rise even further.

If you want to reduce the US dependence on middle eastern oil, start conserving energy today !

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RE: Gas Companies Not Involved With Middle East

Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:21 am

Quoting Flyf15 (Thread starter):
I've heard that Citgo is solely Venzuelan, but I'm not sure.

Citgo is owned by the Venzuelan government, but does get oil from other sources

Quoting Flyf15 (Thread starter):
Does BP get all of its oil from the North Sea?

Not a chance

Quoting Flyf15 (Reply 5):
And, are there any where I can be sure the gas came from the US?

Nope

Quoting Flyf15 (Reply 5):
For gas stations, which ones can I be sure that if I'm pumping gas in my car, none of the oil had a chance of coming from the middle east?

Pretty much no chance at all there either
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RE: Gas Companies Not Involved With Middle East

Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:22 am

It doesn't matter ... are you trying to punish arab oil producers as opposed to others? Won't do any good. Most of big oil is OPEC.

Sunoco is mostly from the North Sea if I recall correctly. I like to go to Mobil/Exxon or Getty.
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RE: Gas Companies Not Involved With Middle East

Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:39 am

Quoting TUNisia (Reply 8):
I like to go to Mobil/Exxon

Hmmm...

 
flyf15
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RE: Gas Companies Not Involved With Middle East

Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:26 am

It is not some big conservation thing or whatever I'm after. I was just pumping gas today and got kind of angry thinking about how a portion of the money I was spending was going to end up in the hands of someone in the middle east. Its easy enough to pick a different gas station and avoid this...
 
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RE: Gas Companies Not Involved With Middle East

Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:04 pm

Honestly, when it comes out at the gas pump you could be buying anyone's oil.

Gasoline is gasoline until it gets dumped in the truck to be delivered. Someone else can handle the long winded explanation as to how the pipeline system and everything works. The point is the fuel you buy from say a BP station, may have actually been refined by Shell, Citgo, Exxon, Valero, anyone with a refinery.
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RE: Gas Companies Not Involved With Middle East

Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:07 pm

Citgo is owned by the Venezuelan govt. as it was previously mentioned. Citgo has a couple of refinaries in the Gulf Coast and the East Coast. Around 80% of the crude processed in those refineries come from Venezuela.

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RE: Gas Companies Not Involved With Middle East

Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:00 pm

Quoting TUNisia (Reply 8):
Getty.

They don't actually exist anymore.

Quoting L410Turbolet (Reply 9):
Quoting TUNisia (Reply 8):
I like to go to Mobil/Exxon

Hmmm...

Precisely
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RE: Gas Companies Not Involved With Middle East

Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:54 pm

Quoting Flyf15 (Reply 10):
Its easy enough to pick a different gas station and avoid this...

I think it's not. As CaptOveur explained the way it (usually) works is that generic gasoline refined in refinery XY is supplied to most/all gas stations within certain geographic area because transporting tanks of fuel accross half of the country by trucks/trains does not make logistically too much sense due to increased costs.
All additives which the respective brands claim to improve their fuels are mixed either directly on the gas station or if the company has it's own trucks on the truck's tank.
 
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RE: Gas Companies Not Involved With Middle East

Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:41 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
They don't actually exist anymore.

They were acquired by Lukoil (Russian) and still maintain the Getty Brand throughout much of the Northeast.

Quoting Flyf15 (Reply 5):
Ah, I suppose I kind of asked the wrong question. For gas stations, which ones can I be sure that if I'm pumping gas in my car, none of the oil had a chance of coming from the middle east? And, are there any where I can be sure the gas came from the US?

If you really want to avoid pumping money directly into the Mideast first of all you will probably want to invest in a bike but if you insist on buying gasoline you will want to avoid Shell. All the Shell stations and refineries were brought under the Equilon/Motiva umbrella in the US which is 50% owned by SaudiAramco (Saudi National Oil Company).

As people mentioned above the actual gasoline you are pumping in your car you really have no clue where the crude that produced it is actually coming from. Even if you are just buying from an Exxon station you have no idea if ExxonMobil produced the gasoline or if they bought it on an exchange agreement with another company. The only difference is they pump in different additives and detergents before it goes into the Exxon service station tank.

If you are really that concerned buy a bike or switch to a CNG or LNG car or even go Hydrogen like governor Schwarzenegger.

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