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Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:37 am

Do We Want The Euro In The UK? (by CON207 Jan 12 2004 in Non Aviation)
Just look at all the replies  Wow!
So before this thread goes off topic (due to German involvement  Wink ), I continue to say No to the Euro.
Why?
Because it sucks  Wink

Anyway, back ontopic now  Wink
Where the hell is JGPH1A, Banco, Skidmarks, Andreas, Klaus, MD11Engineer, Pilot Kaz, and whoever else took part in the most infamous of all a.net threads.
Can you believe it? 1823 replies, a record that still stands.

And Klaus still respects nobody! Foolish fool.
Let battle commence  Wink
Rules are:
1) Say your preference for the Euro
2)Bash the Germans
3) Bash Andreas and Klaus again
4) Talk gibberish
5) No other rules  Wink
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:47 am

Eventually, just not at the moment as it would cause too much damage to our economy.

Good idea in principle, but in practice it is not quite what we need at the moment.

I'm quite happy to bash Germans (and even happier to bash Belgians or Conservatives from Leeds) but on this subject the answer is clear.

Not just now, thanks. Maybe later.
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:47 am

My prediction is that the UK will adopt the Euro when you lot have to start printing Charles on your money, and not until then.  Silly
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:50 am

Quoting Gkirk (Thread starter):
Gkirk From Rwanda,

Hmm... I didn't know Rwanda was considering the adoption of the Euro as currency  Wink
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:50 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 2):
My prediction is that the UK will adopt the Euro when you lot have to start printing Charles on your money

You have a point there, although we should force the Australians to do that anyway.

We would need notes and coins that look like Mickey Mouse hats to fit his ears in.
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:51 am

Quoting Carmenlu15 (Reply 3):
Hmm... I didn't know Rwanda was considering the adoption of the Euro as currency Wink

Why yes, yes we are  Smile
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:53 am

Given the current strength of the Pound, the UK would be insane to abandon it for the Euro.

Plus, when Europe's rapidly aging population causes the overly generous social services net to start unraveling, the Euro won't be all that strong - or enticing.....
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:54 am

What the bloody heck would you want the euro in the UK for?

It's complete economic bollocksology.

From what the oldies tell me, everyone got stuffed once the the currency went decimal in 1971, and I can assure you that when Portugal and every other eurozone changed over in 2002, we all got screwed too. A lot of prices just doubled in the confusion. Despite what you may have heard, nearly every
German I know would go back to the D.Mark tomorrow.

There is too much excess baggage associated with the euro, and this concept that 15+ economies can use a "one size fits all" model in terms of currency and interest rates. Half the countries in it can't stick to the rules.

Of course HRH Tony Blair might try and sneak it in on the quiet on condition the EU announces him President of Europe the day after.... but until then, don't bother.
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 6:05 am

http://www.theeurodebate.co.uk/arguments/

Some of you should read the first thread "Do we want the Euro in the UK" to understand what this thread is about  Wink
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 6:40 am

Thanks mate, I clicked on your link to the original thread, but it was so long my crap computer shut down all by itself...

However, apart from some numb nut from Albania who seems to have a good old dislike for the UK, a few Yanks who find it handy that they don't have to trip off to the bureau de change every time they cross a border in euroland, I'll stick with the sentiments of Paulc, namely that it would be utter madness for the UK to join the euro.
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:02 am

Ok, here it is. Believe it or not, the UK already has the Euro. How, you ask, is that possible? I see the queen on the quid and the words pound sterling on every fivah and tennah in my wallet. While it is true that the UK still prints its own currency and has slightly more monetary policy autonomy than the Euro Zone countries, the Pound is still pegged in its rate to the Euro (much like it, and every other European Union currency was to the Mark), which means it derives its value from the Euro's value. So it really doesn't matter if Britian switches. Then again, it may just benefit English people in a the way it hurt many on the continent. Instantly, you would have about 1.3 times the amount of money in your account, pay packet, etc., but business may be slow to react. Remember how prices in Germany were twice as much for a while? Well, things may cost a bit less for a time in the UK.
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:14 am

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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:21 am

The £ isn't a fixed rate against the euro, it fluctuates. Today it was 0.67, a couple of months ago it was 0.71

Thing is N1120A, there isn't much benefit in having a currency worth 1.3 times its current rate if everything else costs 1.6 times as much.

Either way, I don't see the euro lasting the decade...

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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:16 am

No, you don't want it. Now go shag a sheep.
 
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:29 am

Question isn't if UK wants euro, question is if euro needs UK
 
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:08 am

Quoting Airbuzz (Reply 14):
Question isn't if UK wants euro, question is if euro needs UK

we don't give a crap if Europe needs the UK in the Euro or not.

Any decision will be made in the interests of the British and put to them in a vote. And at the moment the answer is no.
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:34 am

Well, where were we?  bigthumbsup 

As for me, I was sleeping (with my hands on the blanket), but suddenly I was wide-awake: Something unimaginable had happened.
I turned on my computer which seemed to boot faster than usual. A shiver ran down my spine. There was a sequel to the mother of all threads Do We Want The Euro In The UK. Part three.

And there was the voice of an angel: Three. No more. No less. Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Amen.

Do the five - no: three - pseudo-nations of a dismantled, run-down and completely useless Empire plus a shabby spot called Northern Ireland want the Euro?
How shall I know? Do I look like a blasé Briton? But they should not, period. Since the Britons have only recently abolished the archaic "sport" of fox hunting, they are simply not developed and modern enough to introduce the Euro.



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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:54 am

Quoting BHXFAOTIPYYC (Reply 9):
I clicked on your link to the original thread, but it was so long my crap computer shut down all by itself...

Yes, that's because there's so much highly intellectual stuff written in the aforementioned thread. That can cause a computer to crash. Same goes for the not so intellectual stuff Kirkie wrote in that thread.  Wink
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 11:03 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 10):
Remember how prices in Germany were twice as much for a while?

No.
They went up, but they weren't twice as high.


Intermediate result:

Germany : Completely Useless Island
3 : 0


[Edited 2005-09-23 04:03:52]
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:05 pm

This thread will never get far, because:

1. Kirkie started it, and all thread Kirkie starts are doomed to die an untimely horrible death.

2. Why bother: The world knows about Kirkies se#ual preferences by now...even the Americans!! And 85% of the old thread dealt with Banco and me sending that horrible fact out into the world!

But ok, for old time's sake:

1) Say your preference for the Euro

I don't care as long as Kirkie doesn't use the Euro.

2)Bash the Germans

You morons: Just 3 WC titles and 3 EC titles...look at the Brits!!! Erm..oh...just 1 WC, 39 years ago...hmm..ok, next TOP:

3) Bash Andreas and Klaus again

Yea, why don't you, sheep shagger...so far you've never succeeded, the wish to bash me usually means in other words: "Here I am, my name is Kirkie, and I love sheep...PLEEEEEASE bash me for that, I need it"...and that's how it usually ends!  Wink

4) Talk gibberish

I'll leave that to you, the only thing you know and do so much better than the rest of us.

5) No other rules

Ok, so lemme ask this again...to all members of the Forum: Are you all aware that Kirkie loves sheep and computers (in that order) and NOT girls or boys?

You are? GOOD! Makes me proud I was part of the old thread  Wink Big grin
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:09 pm

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 1):
Eventually, just not at the moment as it would cause too much damage to our economy.

Good idea in principle, but in practice it is not quite what we need at the moment.

Agreed.

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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:20 pm

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 4):
You have a point there, although we should force the Australians to do that anyway.

Wow - talk about obsessed. Simple fact - no new notes have the Monarch's face on them. Deal with it. Big grin

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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:18 pm

Quoting BHXFAOTIPYYC (Reply 7):
Despite what you may have heard, nearly every
German I know would go back to the D.Mark tomorrow.

No. Only if the loud complainers are all you're listening to.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 10):
Remember how prices in Germany were twice as much for a while?

No, I don't. There was also no significant inflation hike during the changeover.

Quoting Andreas (Reply 19):
Yea, why don't you, sheep shagger.

Come on, Andreas! That's out of line - not to mention a bit stale by now!

But I guess it takes a vogon more than a few months to change course in any matter, doesn't it? Big grin

Quoting Gkirk (Thread starter):
And Klaus still respects nobody!

Just no extra favours above the standard level for everyone. The people I like (or like to taunt) know who they are!  bigthumbsup 


To the point: I would actually prefer Britain to ride out the impending burst of the real estate bubble before they join the Euro. If they joined before that, we would all have to pay for it due to an overinflated accession course for the pound. If they'll join after that, the course will be more realistic.
 
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:27 pm

Morning everyone.
Andreas, you are as boring as George Bush for god sake. Change the tune  Wink
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:41 pm

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 23):
Andreas, you are as boring as George Bush for god sake.

The one just as much a vogon as the other...! Big grin

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 23):
Germans are just like the French - Cheese eating surrender monkeys who happen to have a fondness for David Hasselhoff and Brattwurst

And a big, healthy yawn for you too!  crazy 
 
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:45 pm

Quoting Klaus (Reply 24):
And a big, healthy yawn for you too! crazy

Ach wheesht. Don't you have some toilets to clean or something?  Wink
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:50 pm

Asking you, Kirkie, to come up with anything original would be an impossible proposition, wouldn't it?  mischievous 
 
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:50 pm

Well, to be honest, I vote NO.

I love my pound  Smile


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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:52 pm

Quoting Klaus (Reply 26):
Asking you, Kirkie, to come up with anything original would be an impossible proposition, wouldn't it? mischievous

Get back to your 1970s Linux computer you dodgy German. Or I will e-mail your company and report you for Network abuse  mischievous 
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:53 pm

Quoting Klaus (Reply 22):
Come on, Andreas! That's out of line - not to mention a bit stale by now!



Quoting Gkirk (Reply 23):
Andreas, you are as boring as George Bush for god sake. Change the tune

That WAS the truth, that IS the truth, and that WILL BE the truth! Now if Kirkie'd tell us he's after Springbok or red-assed Monolian apes now, I'll gladly change the tune, or rather the lyrics...the tune remains the same.

btw talking about stale...who had the nerve to re-surrect that great historical thread to life again? Kirkie! Without even a remote hope to create greatness!!

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 23):
Cheese eating surrender monkeys

You'll never get that one right?? cheese-eating pinko-commie surrendering monkey....somehow I have a feeling something is missing...does anyone here remember the correct full name??

Quoting Klaus (Reply 24):
The one just as much a vogon as the other

Yes by now everyone present gladly acknowledges you're a man of the books...shall I get you a certificate?? ON a roll of toilet paper, if you like...now that Darmstadt (english: Intestinal City) is but a parking lot!
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:57 pm

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 28):
Or I will e-mail your company and report you for Network abuse

Please do - you're talking to the owner and CEO. Big grin

So nothing beyond hopping up and down and throwing sticks? Okay, I shouldn't have gotten my hopes up...
 
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:58 pm

Mein Leben ist nur ein Haufen Kacke#

Signed,The Germans  Wink
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 6:44 pm

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 31):
Mein Leben ist nur ein Haufen Kacke#


As a quote from Kirkie I'm inclined to agree here. Big grin

Well, we're on a good way here....in about an hour or so a certain German Mod (the one who had the nerve to close down the historical thread) will wake up from last night's heavy drinking with the mother of all headaches raging between his ears und he'll see Kirkie raving.....and ban him for life.

After that, we may actually see a chance to develop this thread in something funny and entertaining.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 30):
you're talking to the owner and CEO

and not to forget: The Liquidator!  

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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 6:48 pm

Quoting Andreas (Reply 32):
Well, we're on a good way here....in about an hour or so a certain German Mod (the one who had the nerve to close down the historical thread) will wake up from last night's heavy drinking with the mother of all headaches raging between his ears und he'll see Kirkie raving.....and ban him for life.

That pot smoking hippie? Aye right Big grin
He's about as useful as a poopie flavoured lollipop  Silly
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:04 pm

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 33):
That pot smoking hippie? Aye right

Is he?? No idea actually...but yes, the very same one  Wink Big grin
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:27 pm

Quoting BHXFAOTIPYYC (Reply 7):
and I can assure you that when Portugal and every other eurozone changed over in 2002, we all got screwed too. A lot of prices just doubled in the confusion

Rubbish, and you know it. Some prices went up, but nothing like the anti-euro lobby maintains. We've all got used to it now, and while some people get sentimental over their old currencies and want to change back, you would be creating the same situation all over again. The only way to avoid that, if a country wanted to disengage would be to create a French euro, German euro, Irish euro, so in a sense, the euro is here to stay.

I can't see the UK joining at all, but a big thumbs up here for the currency. It's one of the best things the EU has ever done.
 
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:44 pm

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 35):
Rubbish, and you know it. Some prices went up, but nothing like the anti-euro lobby maintains

Absolutely right there. There were some opportunists - café, bar and restaurant owners for example - but most price rises were less than 5%.

BTW, the €1 and €2 coins must be the only coins in the world with a depiction of the male genetalia on them, in a state of flaccidity. Look carefully. And do you know how why that is? Answers on a postcard please .....

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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:54 pm

Quoting RobertNL070 (Reply 36):
but most price rises were less than 5%.

And when you deduct the annual rate of inflation from this, it makes it even less.

Quoting RobertNL070 (Reply 36):
BTW, the €1 and €2 coins must be the only coins in the world with a depiction of the male genetalia on them, in a state of flaccidity. Look carefully. And do you know how why that is? Answers on a postcard please .....

LOL! Yes, I've noticed that as well. Any idea if they plan to change the design of the notes and coins to include the accession countries?

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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:07 pm

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 37):
LOL! Yes, I've noticed that as well

But do you know why?

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 37):
Any idea if they plan to change the design of the notes and coins to include the accession countries?

No I wouldn't know. I suspect it will occur gradually, and after (some of) the ten 'new countries' have adopted the euro.

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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:11 pm

Quoting RobertNL070 (Reply 38):
But do you know why?

Tell me

Quoting RobertNL070 (Reply 38):
No I wouldn't know. I suspect it will occur gradually, and after (some of) the ten 'new countries' have adopted the euro.

But the non-eurozone countries are on the coins and notes aready, so not using the euro shouldn't be a barrier

[Edited 2005-09-23 14:15:00]
 
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:10 am

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 39):
But the non-eurozone countries are on the coins and notes aready, so not using the euro shouldn't be a barrier

Oh but they are not - look at the coins carefully. And on the reverse side of the €5 note in my wallet (must go to the ATM) there is a map of Europe and North Africa. This map has nothing to do with which countries have and have not adopted the euro. Morocco, Algeria, Tunesia and Turkey are also depicted on this map.

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 39):
Tell me

Norway still has it's own currency, and furthermore isn't even a member of the EU and is therefore not depicted on the coins. Hence the flaccid member 

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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:09 am

I vote no!

In fact I think the UK should pull out of the EU altogether.

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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:07 am

To have the U.K. to join the EURO would
A) help Great Britain and its economy (not the banks + the speculators)
B) would establish the Euro finally on the financial world-map
C) would put the Swiss bankers under pressure, resulting in Switzerland
also joining
D) would establish a real counterweight to the US-Dollar
E) would convince the countries of the Arab League to establish the PAD
(= Pan Arab Dinar) and to link it with the Euro ( 1 PADdy = 1 Euro)
 
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:14 am

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 42):
would put the Swiss bankers under pressure, resulting in Switzerland
also joining

Is that desirable?  Wink

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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Sat Sep 24, 2005 8:01 am

Quoting RobertNL070 (Reply 40):
But the non-eurozone countries are on the coins and notes aready, so not using the euro shouldn't be a barrier

Oh but they are not - look at the coins carefully

Oh yes they are -- look at your coins and you will see the UK, Sweden and Denmark on them: all three of them non-eurozone. None of the new members are on them yet for obvious reasons. I was wondering if and when they are going to appear. For some reason the notes are different and the ECB in its wisdom decided to have a more extensive map. Don't ask me why.
 
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:26 am

Quoting Andreas (Reply 34):
Is he??

Yes, he is!  Wink

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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:10 am

Quoting RobertNL070 (Reply 43):
Is that desirable?

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Yes. That "currency-island" combined with a CHF-cult for a currency which only got established around 1874 (first major revision of the Swiss Federal constitution) in the longer term simply looks childish and only benefits some investment banks (most powerful in that country). To repeat it, yes, it definitely IS desirable.
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:33 am

Quoting BHXFAOTIPYYC (Reply 7):
Half the countries in it can't stick to the rules

the currency is OK, but the "rules" simply are too narrow and too strict

Quoting BHXFAOTIPYYC (Reply 12):
Either way, I don't see the euro lasting the decade...

it WILL. and not only that, but it will expand, to the east most of all

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 15):
And at the moment the answer is no

subject to change in the longer term

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 27):
I love my pound

as I understand it, the Pound is more than 500 years old, and to "love" 500 years old ladies is a bit a queer love !

Quoting RobertNL070 (Reply 40):
Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia and Turkey are also depicted on this map

Turkey actually IS using the Euro, as THE secondary currency. THIS means that thousands of Turkish companies have the Euro as accounting-currency which even is accepted in the Turkish tax-authorities. Thousands of Turkish companies calculate and fix their prices (carpets for instance) in Euros and then declare the selling price(s) on the bases of the daily exchange-rates. In case of Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia, the Euro is the "reference-currency" which means that the Moroccan Dirham, the Algerian Dinar and the Tunisian Dinar are permanently adjusted to the Euro. The Euro increasingly is in use throughout the Arab World in many ways, and accepted as actual payment in many places (airlines, hotels, car-rentals). A unified Arab currency (PAD = Pan Arab Dinar) actually only can start up and survive in a close conjunction with the Euro. --- btw, Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria and Jordan (some 80% of the Arab League by GNP and population) have practically joined the E.U. by a host of bilateral treaties. It basically is the course outlined and established by the late King Hassan II more than a decade ago. The development of course was heavily criticized as being "bowing" to "European colonial rule", but in reality just is as President Mubarak has said a way to take advantage of the modern world.
 
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:14 pm

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 47):
prices (carpets for instance) in Euros

A lot of people don't realise that the correct term for the currency is both euro in the singular and plural.
 
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RE: Do We Want The Euro In The UK - Volume 3

Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:05 pm

Quoting BHXFAOTIPYYC (Reply 7):
Despite what you may have heard, nearly every German I know would go back to the D.Mark tomorrow.

I don't think so. Germans are not stupid sheeps that change opinion every day basing only on temporary facts. What do you want to do? Reprint all the old banknotes? Changing again all the machines (ATMs, money changers, automatic machines, cash registers, etc.)? Changing again all the accounting software (think of the banks...)? Changing again the people minds?
This would surely screw up the European economy and make it untrustworthy to the world eyes.

Quoting RobertNL070 (Reply 36):

Absolutely right there. There were some opportunists - café, bar and restaurant owners for example - but most price rises were less than 5%.

100% agree with you. Euro did not cause any inflation at all. Inflation was caused by less scrupulous retailers to round-up the prices. This was really bad for the consumer but fortunately that was a una-tantum price to pay.

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 35):
I can't see the UK joining at all, but a big thumbs up here for the currency. It's one of the best things the EU has ever done.

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