A few thoughts about what the pro-war had to say:
"No matter what your ideals are, our sons and daughters are fighting for our freedom," said Marilyn Faatz, who drove from New Jersey to attend the rally. "We are making a mockery out of this. And we need to stand united, but we are not."
Excuse me? They are NOT fighting for MY freedom. No American soldier has gone to war, legitimately, for the freedom of the U.S. since the Second World War. They are not fighting for my freedom: they're fighting to save George Bush's ass now, because he sent them there on an ill-defined, ill-conceived mission, that still has no signs of being successful.
They're fighting for a debt of honor to the Iraqi people, to make their lives as decent as possible, after we invaded their nations without just cause. That's what we're fighting for, Ms. Faatz.
Oh-and the President has made the mockery, not those that oppose the war.
Many demonstrators focused their ire at Cindy Sheehan, the California woman whose protest near President Bush's Texas home last summer galvanized the anti-war movement.
Big deal. Focus on one woman. It's not getting you anywhere, people, except more scorn for you than she has recieved.
Oh, btw, before the conservative Sheehan-bashers go on board,she's increasingly going after Democrats, and, more and more, Hillary Clinton
Here's a little snippet of Sheehen, towards Mrs. Clinton, from "Meet The Press" today.
Mr. Russert: "Before she came to Washington, Knight Ridder reports this. "En route to Washington for the rally, anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan protested outside [Sen. Hillary] Clinton's New York office. `She knows that the war is a lie, but she is waiting for the right time to say it,' Sheehan told about 500 cheering supporters. `You say it or you are losing your job.'"
This is Cindy Sheehan to Hillary Rodham Clinton who very well may be the Democratic nominee in 2008."
(Link is to the MTP transcript. The above quote is about 3/4 the way down.)
"The group who spoke here the other day did not represent the American ideals of freedom, liberty and spreading that around the world," Sen. Jeff Sessions, an Alabama Republican, told the crowd. "I frankly don't know what they represent, other than to blame America first."
A few points, Senator:
1. Those who spoke there the other day REPRESENT THE VERY ESSENCE OF WHAT AMERICIA IS ABOUT! Unless your idea, Senator, is to walk, goose-step with George Bush, those who speak their mind, freely, are the epitomy of what the United States of Amercia is about.
2. On this issue, Jeffy, America IS TO BLAME. We started the war; we bullied the UN and our our allies to accept it, then spit on them when they didn't go along. We ARE AT FAULT.
One sign on the mall read "Cindy Sheehan doesn't speak for me" and another "Arrest the traitors"; it listed Sheehan's name first among several people who have spoken against the war.
First one doesn't bother me in the least, but after hearing Jeffords damn those against the war for daring to speak their minds, one of the supporters of the war calls those of us who are against it "traitors"? To them I say: go to hell, hateful person. You don't understand America if you REALLY believe people against the war deserved to be arrested and labled traitors.
How many of the very vociferous on this forum believe this? If you do, be honest, put on your flame-retardant suit and say it. At least we'll know where you stand.
Melody Vigna, 44, of Linden, California, said she wants nothing to do with Sheehan and others at nearby Camp Casey, an anti-war site set up to honor her son, Casey, who was killed in Iraq.
"Our troops are over there fighting for our rights, and if she was in one of those countries she would not be able to do that," Vigna said.
EXACTLY, lady! That's what makes American the beacon it has been for two centuries-you ARE ABLE speak your mind, protest your government, oppose policy-AND NOT GET ARRESTED. Thank you for hitting the First Amendment right on the head. I know, missy, you didn't mean it that way, but, in your ignorance, you hit a home run FOR those of us against this war.
Unfortunately, I'm one of those who are a more of a realist about this war than some others, I know we can't leave know-you know, that debt of honor to the people of Iraq and all. But that doesn't mean I will EVER come out in support of it, or will welcome it in any way. It has damanged our good name and reputation, and made us the brunt of jokes worldwide. And I should be PROUD of this?
Flame suit on. Already wearing the Obsession, Captoveur. Fire away. I don't give a rats' ass.
[Edited 2005-09-26 03:51:27]