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Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:33 am

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9493139/

She should have listened to the cops, the White House is one area wher you can't screw around, but Cindy Seems to think she's above the law. Hopefully she gets the message, and doesn't try to pull the same stunt again.


edited to avoid a gigantic flame war

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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:37 am

Yeah, had something to do with whether their permit allowed them to sit, or if they had to keep moving. Still unclear by the last report on MSNBC.

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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:38 am

Looking at the smile on her face in that picture makes me wonder if the loss of her son is still the main point of contention in HER protesting, or if she has just turned into another publicity/attention whore. No wonder her husband divorced her.

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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:49 am

"Yippee! This is exactly what I was hoping for!"

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This isn't about her son anymore, and I think everyone knows that now.
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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:54 am

She should have listened to the cops, the White House is one area wher you can't screw around, but Cindy Seems to think she's above the law. [/quote]

This is standard agit-prop.

You test out a silly law just a bit, get arrested and the sympathy factor goes through the roof.

Sheehan knows exactly what she is doing, in contrast to the White House which is looking worse and worse as time goes on.

Score: Sheehan 2, Bush 0.
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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:58 am

I sympathize w/her loss, but she's made her point.

And, why does the media try and tell us, that Bush HAS NEVER met her. As I understand it, Dubya spoke to her, before all this protesting buisness started in Crawford.

Is it a shame her son died? Yes. But, in a way, isn't her ability to protest is allowed by the deaths of many, who lost their lives to keep us free?

If this happened to one of my children, I'd be angry, and probably protest to, but would stop, the moment some political action comittee turned up with they media hacks, in tow. I'd have had more respect for this woman, if she'd told all those camera mongering flacks to "f-off", and done her protest alone.
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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:59 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):
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Reply 3, posted Mon Sep 26 2005 20:41:16 UTC+2 and read 45 times:


Quoting AirTran737 (Thread starter):
Hopefully she is on an airplane to Club Gitmo as we speak

Ah, that's what he wrote.

You know nothing about freedom, do you AirTran737, do you?

Send 3/4 of the nation to Gitmo then, dude. Pathetic.
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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:04 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):

Hopefully she is on an airplane to Club Gitmo as we speak

Holy shit dude. WTF were you thinking? My goodness...that ranks right up there in the halls of stupid airliners.net quotes. Get a friggen clue.

Quoting AirTran737 (Thread starter):
edited to avoid a gigantic flame war

edited to prevent myself from being an IDIOT to all of a.net. oops too late

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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:04 am

Good for her. She's doing what she believes in, and because she sat down on the sidewalk outside the white house she got arrested? Good for her. There's more important things than people sitting outside the white house. Rosa Parks got arrested for sitting on a bus...
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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:10 am

Quoting AirTran737 (Thread starter):
She should have listened to the cops, the White House is one area wher you can't screw around, but Cindy Seems to think she's above the law. Hopefully she gets the message, and doesn't try to pull the same stunt again.

Im not surprised. I got stuck in DC area @ the protest saturday and some of the people there, well lets just say they are really f**ked up. Sorry, but the extreme left or right isnt where anyone should be.
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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:12 am

Quoting Tbar220 (Reply 8):
Good for her. She's doing what she believes in, and because she sat down on the sidewalk outside the white house she got arrested? Good for her. There's more important things than people sitting outside the white house. Rosa Parks got arrested for sitting on a bus...

No, Cindy Sheehan was arrested for not listening to the Police. Her arrest had nothing to do with the White House, just like her protest has nothing to do with her son.

Looks like she is doing anything to get some media attention, what's next, flashing the cameras?
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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:17 am

She is a nut case...and less and less people really give a shit about her. The only people paying attention are the fringes on both sides.
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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:20 am

Quoting TriStarEnvy (Reply 6):
And, why does the media try and tell us, that Bush HAS NEVER met her. As I understand it, Dubya spoke to her, before all this protesting buisness started in Crawford.

Is it a shame her son died? Yes. But, in a way, isn't her ability to protest is allowed by the deaths of many, who lost their lives to keep us free?

The press has stated time and time again that Dubya met with her right after her son died. She has also stated that she was in shock at the time, that the WH misrepresented her remarks (take that as her interpretation or with a grain of sand), and that once the import of her son's death struck, she wanted a face to face with the Prez (incidentally, the Prez has met several times with those family members who DO support the war).

As for the death of her son, how did his death make us more free? Saddam Hussein never attacked us; the Taliban did. Lets revisit the facts again now, shall we?
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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:21 am

Quoting AirTran737,(Thread starter)::
Hopefully she is on an airplane to Club Gitmo as we speak

It's so nice to see that the right has now adopted the Stalinist Gulag reaction to political dissent. I certainly hope some of the conservatives on this forum see how completely off the reservation this sort of talk is.
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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:23 am

Quoting 11Bravo (Reply 13):
Quoting AirTran737,(Thread starter)::
Hopefully she is on an airplane to Club Gitmo as we speak

It's so nice to see that the right has now adopted the Stalinist Gulag reaction to political dissent. I certainly hope some of the conservatives on this forum see how completely off the reservation this sort of talk is.

It was a stupid comment to say.

Now, saying, hopefully you can see some of the rude comments that have been directed at the President?

Been reading rude comments from both sides, Democrats & Republicans.....
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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:31 am

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 12):
Saddam Hussein never attacked us

Neither did Germany. Your point?
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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:42 am

Quoting AirTran737 (Thread starter):
She should have listened to the cops, the White House is one area wher you can't screw around, but Cindy Seems to think she's above the law. Hopefully she gets the message, and doesn't try to pull the same stunt again.

Above the law huh? She was peacably assembling on public land, which is protected by the Constitution.

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 3):
This isn't about her son anymore, and I think everyone knows that now.

This is absolutely about her son, and the thousands of other sons and daughters who have died senselessly

Quoting TriStarEnvy (Reply 5):
who lost their lives to keep us free?

The reason people are protesting is because, first, this is not a war about keeping us free and second, this government advocates taking away the freedoms that the Constitution provides

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 15):
Quoting Jaysit (Reply 12):
Saddam Hussein never attacked us

Neither did Germany. Your point?

Germany's ally Japan did attack the US, and they did it with the backing of the German government. Remember, we declared war on Japan first.
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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:43 am

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 15):
Neither did Germany.

Germany declared war against the U.S. on December 11, 1941, and the U.S. returned the favor later the same day. Your point?
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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:44 am

Not following orders from police is a bad idea. She deserves to be arrested.

Sheehan is total attention whore who will probably write a book and become a millionaire all thanks to the terrorist who pointed a gun at her son and shot him dead.

She is a sick individual who is using her sons death for her own advantage. He must be rolling over in his grave. I know I would be.
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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:44 am

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 15):
Neither did Germany.

You're right, they just cut to the chase and declared war on us instead:

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To the Congress of the United States:

On the morning of Dec. 11 the Government of Germany, pursuing its course of world conquest, declared war against the United States. The long-known and the long-expected has thus taken place. The forces endeavoring to enslave the entire world now are moving toward this hemisphere. Never before has there been a greater challenge to life, liberty and civilization. Delay invites great danger. Rapid and united effort by all of the peoples of the world who are determined to remain free will insure a world victory of the forces of justice and of righteousness over the forces of savagery and of barbarism. Italy also has declared war against the United States.

I therefore request the Congress to recognize a state of war between the United States and Germany, and between the United States and Italy.

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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:48 am

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 15):
Neither did Germany.

Germany declared war on the US -- not the other way around. And Germany had been sinking American ships in the lead-up to that. Iraq did none of that, and now we know it didn't have the means to do it anyway.

Bad analogy.

I love how this woman's determination to make a difference gets dismissed as publicity seeking or "whoring." What do you call misleading the United Nations and the world to generate a justification for an invasion in which tens of thousands have died and continue to die?

I'll take Cindy Sheehan's transgressions any day -- at least she has moral justification for her actions.
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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:48 am

I have reserved commenting on this whiner and her cronies for a long time. However, this is what I feel.

Say her protest is actually about her son. By protesting the war and the military leadership isn't she pretty much saying her son wasn't smart enough to make his own decisions? This is not her fight, if her son had really been opposed to the war he could have been a chickenshit and run to Canada or something. I feel she is the one pissing on her own son's grave, not a greatful nation. I can certainly understand why her husband divorced her.

Parents fighting their children's fights are a big problem with this country and it is getting worse. Everywhere you go whenever something goes wrong, people run to their parents to make it better, and stupidly, the parents do whatever it takes to make the problem go away. If people of military age really were opposed to this war why is a dead soldiers mother the most vocal protestor? She kind of loses all credibility because I have a hard time seeing this as her fight.

And she did have her meeting with Bush. Bush meets with the families of almost all, if not all of the soldiers who die over there. I feel her sudden change of heart has something to do with the backing of needtotakeourownadvice.org (moveon).

Yes, she got what she wanted by getting arrested, however, laws are laws. She new damn good and well if she sat there long enough in defiance of police orders she would get arrested. She knew the law, she broke it. It was a no-win for the police, they look weak if they let her sit there in defiance of the law, and they look like assholes if they arrest her.

Ok bring on the flames.
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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:56 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 16):
Quoting AirTran737 (Thread starter):
She should have listened to the cops, the White House is one area wher you can't screw around, but Cindy Seems to think she's above the law. Hopefully she gets the message, and doesn't try to pull the same stunt again.

Above the law huh? She was peacably assembling on public land, which is protected by the Constitution.

She broke the law

Quote:

Police warned them three times that they were breaking the law by failing to move along, then began making arrests.
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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:00 am

Quoting Arrow (Reply 20):
What do you call misleading the United Nations and the world to generate a justification for an invasion in which tens of thousands have died and continue to die?

I thought that Cindy Sheehan was protesting that she wanted to speak with President Bush, a 2nd time? The 2nd meeting with the President was supposed be about her son, who by the way, voluntarily enlisted, & re-enlisted.....
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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:02 am

Quoting MidnightMike (Reply 23):
Quoting N1120A (Reply 16):
Quoting AirTran737 (Thread starter):
She should have listened to the cops, the White House is one area wher you can't screw around, but Cindy Seems to think she's above the law. Hopefully she gets the message, and doesn't try to pull the same stunt again.

Above the law huh? She was peacably assembling on public land, which is protected by the Constitution.

She broke the law

Quote:

Police warned them three times that they were breaking the law by failing to move along, then began making arrests.

She did not break a law if it is invalid
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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:06 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 25):
She did not break a law if it is invalid

Protesting in an area, without a permit is illegal, hence, breaking the law. Are you trying to say that the Police made an illegal arrest???
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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:06 am

Good, that unbelievable bitch got what she deserved.

Police warned them time after time that they were breaking the law. But Miss Cindy knew what she was doing, and she manipulated the situation. She put the LEOs in an no-win situation in a further attempt to make her look like some kind of important revolutionist.

I feel sorry for her son. He lived an honorable life and died a heroic death, and his mother exploits it to press her views and get time on TV. What a sick bitch, no wonder her husband left her, and no wonder most of her family now hates her.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 16):
She was peacably assembling on public land, which is protected by the Constitution.

Not while standing in front of the White House, not while doing it without a permit. She broke the law, period.




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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:07 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 16):
Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 3):
This isn't about her son anymore, and I think everyone knows that now.

This is absolutely about her son, and the thousands of other sons and daughters who have died senselessly

Like hell it is. Don't fool yourself - this is about her. She's angry, bitter and her only agenda is to do everything she can to embarrass the President. She's even admitted she doesn't actually want to talk to him.

This ceased to be about her son the moment she started letting herself be "handled" by the people from MoveOn.org and other ideologues.

Quoting Arrow (Reply 20):
Bad analogy.

We'll have to agree to disagree, because I think my analogy was very valid.

Quoting Arrow (Reply 20):
she has moral justification for her actions

People who bomb abortion clinics think they have moral justification for their actions, too. Does that make them acceptable in your book?
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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:12 am

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 27):
Quoting N1120A (Reply 16):
She was peacably assembling on public land, which is protected by the Constitution.

Not while standing in front of the White House, not while doing it without a permit. She broke the law, period.

Whether or not she had the permit is still in question

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 27):
But no, I guess Miss Cindy thinks she's above federal law.

No, the current federal government thinks they are above the law

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 28):
Like hell it is. Don't fool yourself - this is about her. She's angry, bitter and her only agenda is to do everything she can to embarrass the President. She's even admitted she doesn't actually want to talk to him.

Would you want to talk to someone you thought was the epitome of all evil? No, you would want to fight against their cause, and that is exactly what Cindy Sheehan is doing.
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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:13 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 25):
She did not break a law if it is invalid

How is the law invalid, oh legal genius?
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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:16 am

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 12):
She has also stated that she was in shock at the time, that the WH misrepresented her remarks (take that as her interpretation or with a grain of sand), and that once the import of her son's death struck, she wanted a face to face with the Prez

I'd like to see the President to express my complaints about the way he's running the country, but it ain't happening. Ms. Sheehan can make all the requests she wants - she isn't going to get her SECOND audience. Regardless of how distraught she was at the time of the FIRST audience. That would mean the other 1899 families would have to be similarly accomodated.

She wants to be the face of protest, that's fine. I commend her energy and devotion to a cause she believes in. But her son was presumably an adult when he enlisted - he wasn't drafted. Mommy needs to cut the damn apron strings and move on.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 16):
Above the law huh? She was peacably assembling on public land, which is protected by the Constitution.

Wrong. She was treated like every other group that comes to protest in front of the White House. They get their 15 minutes (probably longer), and then they have to move on. The Constitution doesn't give Cindy the right to ignore a lawful order of the Secret Service to move along.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 16):
This is absolutely about her son, and the thousands of other sons and daughters who have died senselessly

No, it's about her. She's using her son to advance her political cause. If her husband hadn't divorced her, and other members of the family hadn't run advertisements distancing themselves from her, I might agree with you.
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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:18 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 29):
Whether or not she had the permit is still in question

But the police spent time questioning her and warning her that she was breaking the law, and they certainly would've asked for a permit.

And since she was eventually arrested, there's a good chance she didn't have one,

Quoting N1120A (Reply 29):
No, the current federal government thinks they are above the law

No, they are the law.




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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:19 am

Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 21):
Parents fighting their children's fights are a big problem with this country and it is getting worse. Everywhere you go whenever something goes wrong, people run to their parents to make it better, and stupidly, the parents do whatever it takes to make the problem go away

Funny thing is that many people who share your political views routinely complain about declining family values and the fact that parents don't get involved enough in the education of their kids.

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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:20 am

Quoting Arrow (Reply 20):
I love how this woman's determination to make a difference gets dismissed as publicity seeking or "whoring."

Don't underestimate the power of a little cleavage. It might actually improve her credibility at this point.

Quoting Arrow (Reply 20):
What do you call misleading the United Nations and the world to generate a justification for an invasion in which tens of thousands have died and continue to die?

I don't know, what?

Here's one for you. What do you call the UN for misleading/justifying genocide in Africa?

Do agree with Cindy on pulling our invasion force from New Orleans?
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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:22 am

Quoting HAJFlyer (Reply 33):
Funny thing is that many people who share your political views routinely complain about declining family values and the fact that parents don't get involved enough in the education of their kids.

There is a big difference between knowing who your kids friends are and bailing their asses out of every problem they get themselves into. If parents don't start learning to cut the cord by the time the kid turns 18 we are going to have some big problems in 20 years.

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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:23 am

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 3):
This isn't about her son anymore, and I think everyone knows that now.

It never TRULY was about her son. She does not like Bush, and while that's fine and good, she used her sons death as an excuse to do all this..

Quoting TriStarEnvy (Reply 5):

If this happened to one of my children, I'd be angry, and probably protest to, but would stop, the moment some political action comittee turned up with they media hacks, in tow. I'd have had more respect for this woman, if she'd told all those camera mongering flacks to "f-off", and done her protest alone.

I agree.. But additionally, if one of my kids died, I wouldn't screw up the REST of the family by using the death to my political advantage. Remember, her own husband called her an embarassment and filed for divorce. He sould get a medal..

Quoting Superfly,reply=now gone]

Hopefully she is on an airplane to Club Gitmo as we speak[/quote]

We could only hope..

[quote=Solarix
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Sheehan is total attention whore who will probably write a book and become a millionaire all thanks to the terrorist who pointed a gun at her son and shot him dead.

She is a sick individual who is using her sons death for her own advantage. He must be rolling over in his grave. I know I would be.

As would I... I'd do what I could to come back from the afterlife and let her know it too... (IF such a thing was possible)

Quoting MidnightMike (Reply 24):
was supposed be about her son, who by the way, voluntarily enlisted, & re-enlisted...

A point many people ignore or fail to mention. As I have said before, and you just reiterated.. He WILLINGLY and VOULNTAIRLY signed up and STAYED IN The service... If it was about him, she should be angry at HIM for doing that..

Quote:
WASHINGTON - Cindy Sheehan, the California woman who has used her son’s death in Iraq to spur the anti-war movement, was arrested Monday while protesting outside the White House.

Emphasis on the word USED....

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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:25 am

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 15):
Neither did Germany. Your point?

Germany DECLARED WAR ON US. That's the point. Germany told us to, in the words of our inept president, to "bring it on". We did, we kicked the shit out of them.

Iraq did not declare anything of the kind against us. We simply invaded them. That's the point, my friend.

By the way, got this "announcement" in an email today. I think it sums up how those of us who oppose this war feel about Bush and Co.:

"The Repubican Government today announced that it is changing its emblem from an Eagle to a CONDOM because it more accurately reflects the government's political stance. A condom allows for inflation, halts production, destroys the next generation, protects a bunch of pricks, and gives you a sense of security while you're actually being screwed.
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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:31 am

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 15):
Neither did Germany. Your point?

Where do you get your history from? Germany was attacking all shipping going to the Allies before the US got involved in the war. Germany also then declared war on the US when Japan did.

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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:32 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 37):
Damn, it just doesn't get more accurate than that!"

The problem is, Falcon, that the Dems, who are theoretically in great position to win elections couldn't have picked a worse time to be co-opted from the far left. It's very disappointing and bad for the country.
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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:36 am

Quoting HAJFlyer (Reply 33):
Funny thing is that many people who share your political views routinely complain about declining family values and the fact that parents don't get involved enough in the education of their kids.

You cannot have it both ways

You are missing the point. Ms. Sheehan's son was no longer a child. He was an adult who made his own decisions, yet mom apparently can't move on.

Quoting FDXmech (Reply 34):
Do agree with Cindy on pulling our invasion force from New Orleans?

I'd have loved to see the faces of her posse when she uttered that absurdity.

Quoting Airlinelover (Reply 36):
A point many people ignore or fail to mention. As I have said before, and you just reiterated.. He WILLINGLY and VOULNTAIRLY signed up and STAYED IN The service... If it was about him, she should be angry at HIM for doing that..

I wouldn't be surprised if that was exactly what's going on here. Ms. Sheehan's son obviously didn't have a problem with the military, or he wouldn't have re-enlisted. What a great way to get back at him....
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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:45 am

Quoting FDXMECH (Reply 39):
the Dems, who are theoretically in great position to win elections couldn't have picked a worse time to be co-opted from the far left. It's very disappointing and bad for the country.

So very true. Right now, despite how much I dislike this woman, she is the Republican party's best friend right now.

Most of the Democrats that I personally know despise this woman as much as I do because of the above facts, and because they also agree that her actions are sick.



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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:46 am

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 32):
Quoting N1120A (Reply 29):
No, the current federal government thinks they are above the law

No, they are the law.

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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:47 am

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 41):
Right now, despite how much I dislike this woman, she is the Republican party's best friend right now.

That's a pretty sad freaking indictment of the GOP, pinning their hopes on one woman who is against the war. That says more about the desperation of the GOP these days than it does Mrs. Sheehan.

In fact, you better realize, that most people AGREE with her now. I think she's a big pain in the ass to the GOP right now, not a Godsend.
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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:51 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 43):
In fact, you better realize, that most people AGREE with her now. I think she's a big pain in the ass to the GOP right now, not a Godsend.

I disagree. For a reasonable person to agree with Sheehan is akin to a stopped clock being right twice a day.
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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:53 am

Quoting MidnightMike (Reply 10):
No, Cindy Sheehan was arrested for not listening to the Police. Her arrest had nothing to do with the White House, just like her protest has nothing to do with her son.

But, her protest does have something to do with her son. The president told her and all others who have lost family to the Iraqi invasion they died for a noble cause. So, what is the noble cause? Are we any better in this country for having invaded Iraq? Are we any more safe and secure in the world for having invaded Iraq! What is the noble cause? Did Iraq attack the United States? Was Iraq a haven for terrorists? What is the noble cause that 1900 Americans and 10s of thousands of innocent Iraqis have died for?

Quoting MidnightMike (Reply 24):
I thought that Cindy Sheehan was protesting that she wanted to speak with President Bush, a 2nd time? The 2nd meeting with the President was supposed be about her son, who by the way, voluntarily enlisted, & re-enlisted.....

Yes, her son did voluntarily enlist and re-enlist because of the al-Qaida terrorst threat. Because of 9/11. Just like many people did. They ended up in Iraq, a country that had *NOTHING AT ALL* to do with the terror attacks of Sept 11. Just like the rest of us were the victims of shady information. IIRC, the first meeting between Sheehan and Bush was Bush saying something like: "I'm George Bush, president of the Untied States. I am sorry for your loss, mom." WTF kind of thing is that to say to a woman who just lost her son?

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 31):
She's using her son to advance her political cause.

What a horrible political cause..... trying to get the country out of an illegal war and back to fighting terrorists that are still a very real threat to us. Damn that political cause of rooting out al-Qaida and making the world safe for everyone. Stupid cause chasing terrorists so more innocent civilians are not murdered. Damn her.

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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 6:00 am

Quoting FDXMECH (Reply 39):
he problem is, Falcon, that the Dems, who are theoretically in great position to win elections couldn't have picked a worse time to be co-opted from the far left. It's very disappointing and bad for the country.

I agree. Both parties keep pandering to their extremist fringe, and we in the middle get to suffer for it.

Quoting Seb146 (Reply 45):
IIRC, the first meeting between Sheehan and Bush was Bush saying something like: "I'm George Bush, president of the Untied States. I am sorry for your loss, mom." WTF kind of thing is that to say to a woman who just lost her son?

What else was he supposed to say?

Quoting Seb146 (Reply 45):
What a horrible political cause..... trying to get the country out of an illegal war and back to fighting terrorists that are still a very real threat to us.

After Ms. Sheehan issued her "get federal troops out of New Orleans" manifesto, she lost what little credibility she had left.
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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 6:00 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 43):
In fact, you better realize, that most people AGREE with her now. I think she's a big pain in the ass to the GOP right now, not a Godsend.

To add to your comment, most Americans sympathize with Cindy Sheehan, and most Americans do not agree with her tactics and most Americans do not agree with her opinion on the war.
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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 6:16 am

Quoting Seb146 (Reply 45):

What a horrible political cause..... trying to get the country out of an illegal war and back to fighting terrorists that are still a very real threat to us. Damn that political cause of rooting out al-Qaida and making the world safe for everyone. Stupid cause chasing terrorists so more innocent civilians are not murdered. Damn her.

GO CANUCKS!!

The cause is pure anti-bush. She takes it one step further with her disagreement about the war.. Damn you.. Oh- and statements like GO CANUKS absolutely suck, and have nothing to do with the discussion at hand.. How about putting it in your SIG instead..

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 46):

After Ms. Sheehan issued her "get federal troops out of New Orleans" manifesto, she lost what little credibility she had left.

Yep.

Quoting MidnightMike (Reply 47):

To add to your comment, most Americans sympathize with Cindy Sheehan, and most Americans do not agree with her tactics and most Americans do not agree with her opinion on the war.

I think most americans sympathize with her LOSS.. MOST americans despise Cindy Sheehan.. Most do not agree with her position on the war..

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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 6:18 am

Halls120: One problem with National Guard troops is their commander-in-chief is the governer of that particular state. They have been taken over by the president and sent to the war zone in Iraq for which they never should have been. So, in the aftermath of Katrina, federal troops (which were streched thin anyway) were sent in. Was there that problem in Texas? Not so much since that is Gee-dubs home state. Also, don't you think a person deserves more after the loss of a child than a condecinding smirk and being called "mom"? Is that your idea of sympathy to a grieving parent?

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RE: Cindy Sheehan Arrested!

Tue Sep 27, 2005 6:26 am

Quoting MidnightMike (Reply 47):
most Americans do not agree with her opinion on the war

The latest USA Today/ Gallup poll does point a somewhat different picture:

"Just 41 percent of the 818 adults polled between Friday and Monday said they approved of Bush's handling of the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, while 57 percent disapproved.

And support for his management of the war in Iraq has dropped to 32 percent, with 67 percent telling pollsters they disapproved of how Bush is prosecuting the conflict."


An approval rating of 32% is not what I would call an overwhelming popular mandate.

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