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The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:51 am

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...le/2005/09/19/AR2005091901570.html

And I used to think the Republican party was about minimal governmental intrusion into one's life. Oops. I forgot. They sold out to the Christian right.
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:01 am

In the same vein:
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:08 am

I'm all for the most severe punishment for child pornographers - but other than that - it's a waste. Don't we have some real bad guys to go after - not some schmuck sitting on his couching yanking his meat to Debbie Does Dallas?

Worthless effort.
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:14 am

Can someone please explain what legal basis the FBI has to incriminate? I fail to see what laws are being broken.

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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:27 am

Quoting FlyVirgin744 (Reply 3):
Can someone please explain what legal basis the FBI has to incriminate? I fail to see what laws are being broken.

The main aspects of the involvement of the FBI are to enforce the Child Online Protection Act to prevent websites from distributing materials harmful to minors (different than from distributing child pornography)--so websites would be checked to make sure indecent material couldn't be viewed without an age verification, to insure "models" are of age, even in productions that are not obviously child pornography (see: Traci Lords), and also to monitor violations of decency acts in interstate commerce, along with other federal laws.
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:31 am

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 2):
Don't we have some real bad guys to go after

Yeah-Tom Delay and Bill Frist come to mind.  Big grin
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:32 am

As usual the right forces their moral values on the entire population

It's a good thing terrorism and other crimes are at all time lows, the FBI agents must have been bored with nothing else to do
 
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:37 am

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 2):
I'm all for the most severe punishment for child pornographers

Exactly, he should really be focusing ALL of the energy toward that alone.




Bush is doing what China wants to do: censor information on the Internet. He needs to keep it strictly to enforcing what is already illegal. Enforcing anything else?...all I say is...have fun wasting more of my money!  bouncy 




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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:39 am

Too many laws in this country. How about we start repealing some of them for a start? When the hell has that ever happened?
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:40 am

They can't take away my porn!!

Then what do I do when the girlfriend isn't around?

F*ck you Bush for trying to take away my porn.  Wink
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:54 am

This really isn't anything to get all worked up over. The government isn't going to shut down the entire porn industry with just a half dozen investigators. All they're doing is looking to set a few examples, and they'll be done with it.

A case in point, when I moved a few years ago, my new phone number was one digit off from a fax machine for a nationwide chain of daycare centers. Every now and then I'd get calls with a fax tone, and while bothersome, I just hung up. When I got caller ID I could see where it was from, and I asked the company to tell their centers to use the right number, but I was just blown off and told to change my number.

When I got a fax modem, my computer started receiving the faxes. What I saw was horrifying to say the least. The documents contained SS#'s, the names of minors and their parents, which schools they attended, where their parents worked, addresses and phone numbers for where they were at what hours, public assistance information, etc. Everything someone who would want to prey on children would relish. Further calls to the company were blown off, until I started sending blacked-out copies of the faxes to state agencies by certified mail. Within a week I got a call from the FTC by a woman who explained this was exactly the kind of situation they'd been looking for and took my statement. I never got another fax from one of their centers again.

I suspect that once the FBI cracks down on a couple of websites and interstate mailers, they'll put their resources somewhere else.
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:29 am

Great. There goes my sex life.

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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:43 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 10):
This really isn't anything to get all worked up over. The government isn't going to shut down the entire porn industry with just a half dozen investigators.

I don't think that's the issue here. We have a political party in power, in all 3 branches in D.C., who claims to be for limited government intrusion, yet is trying to go after consenting adults watching consenting adults in filmed sex acts, which is NOT illegal in the vast majority of the country. It's 18th Century, puritanical garbage, being pushed by the zealots on the religious right, and backed by an Administration who, apparently, has more than enough agents to help in the war on terror or in rounding up real criminals.

What's next? The FBI breaking into your house, and catching you getting a blowjob from your wife or girlfriend; or having anal sex with them, and carting you off to prison?

Some of you may laugh, but I'm deadly serious. They're going to try and target people doing NOTHING ILLEGAL! And all to satisfiy a political erection for the religious right? The prospect of this, besides being appallingly absurd, is frightening in the extreme if such zealousness is taken to it's extreme.

And don't bet on the courts granting someone arrested looking at adult porn on the internet. They'll just haul their ass into the most conservative Federal court they can find, and convict them.

This is utter lunacy.
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:01 pm

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 12):
This is utter lunacy.

Ease up Falcon -- you still have your wife around. It'll be ok.

 Wink



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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:06 pm

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 13):
Ease up Falcon -- you still have your wife around. It'll be ok.

I appreciate the humor, but think about it-put same hard-up (no pun intended) zealot out looking for stuff, who is really safe from this modern-day witch hunt?

Oh, and NWA742, you better not even mention my sexual relationship with my wife if AA61hvy is hanging around-it makes him blush.  Big grin

[Edited 2005-09-28 05:07:00]
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:08 pm

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 13):
Ease up Falcon -- you still have your wife around. It'll be ok.



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 14):
I appreciate the humor,

 rotfl 
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:13 pm

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 14):
I appreciate the humor, but think about it-put same hard-up (no pun intended) zealot out looking for stuff, who is really safe from this modern-day witch hunt?

Well if it turns out that nobody's safe in the future, I would design a room in the house like in the movie "Panic Room," you know, completely sealed off, thick steel walls, etc.

Except I would call it The Loving Room. That way if they ever came into my house while we're busy, we could at least finish before letting them in.

 



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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:14 pm

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 12):
I don't think that's the issue here

Sure it is. The FBI has been "investigating" the porn industry for eons. This is nothing new. It's publicity. Pull into the parking lot of any business involved in the industry in Porn Gulch in Chatsworth, and your license number is run and the registered owner's name is entered into a database. Oh, the stories I could tell.
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:14 pm

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 16):
Well if it turns out that nobody's safe in the future, I would design a room in the house like in the movie "Panic Room," you know, completely sealed off, thick steel walls, etc.

Except I would call it The Loving Room. That way if they ever came into my house while I was busy, I could at least finish before letting them in.

Gotta make a note of that one.....

 Silly
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:17 pm

I had to change the words in my previous post from "I" to "we're".

It just didn't sound right.

 Embarrassment




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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:21 pm

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 19):
I had to change the words in my previous post from "I" to "we're".

It just didn't sound right.

On here, no one would have noticed, dude.  Big grin
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:25 pm

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 20):
On here, no one would have noticed, dude.

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

That was excellent!


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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:34 pm

What are professional pornographers' reaction to the article in the link? "No way!"

My reaction: ummmmm . . .

There are tons of pro pornographers who enjoy their jobs very much, to my knowledge. They barely can not stop, that is for sure.

Unfortunately, pornography industry generate BILLION and BILLION of  dollarsign   dollarsign   dollarsign  --- they are even making more money because of today's modernized technology opportunities.

My speculation is that the Bush Administration has grown tired of increased obscene materials available to the general public in the last few years.

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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:51 pm

Great.. Take away the one thing in my life that I don't hate.

I will go back to what I have always said if someone wants to run a REASONABLE alternative I will vote for them.
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 1:04 pm

Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 23):
Great.. Take away the one thing in my life that I don't hate.

I will go back to what I have always said if someone wants to run a REASONABLE alternative I will vote for them.

You, and America, have been given them, and have even voted for them, but the unreasonable outcome keeps happening
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 1:08 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 24):
You, and America, have been given them,

That last retard was not a reasonable alternative.. All he did was talk about a plan that did not exist and fling poo at Bush. Anyone can do that.

"Bush sucks" is not an alternative

"Anybody but Bush" is not a glowing endorsement, even from America's dissaffected youth.
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 1:12 pm

Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 25):
That last retard was not a reasonable alternative.. All he did was talk about a plan that did not exist and fling poo at Bush. Anyone can do that.

"Bush sucks" is not an alternative

"Anybody but Bush" is not a glowing endorsement, even from America's dissaffected youth.

As opposed to "...duh...flip flop...duh"?
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 1:54 pm

Hmmmm, big brother now wants to censor your viewing... seems U.S. citizens (rights) are being further erroded by zealots, (unless you carry a gun, that is guaranteed by their constitunion) so, watch your porn, but keep your gun aimed at the door !
On a more ominous note, U.S. authorities engaged the help of the R.C.M.P. in Canada to arrest the head of the Canadian Marijuana Party for selling pot seeds on the internet, and hold him for extradition. Should this happen, this man faces a possible sentence in the U.S of life imprisonment, which, in his own country, would result in a fine of less than $2000.00 CD.
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:03 pm

"PORNOGRAPHY IS A SIN"

Porn is not mentioned in the Bible. Remember, photography did not exist when the book was written. Most Fundamentalists, however, base their objection to pornography on two biblical references.

In Genesis 3:7, Adam and Eve committed the first sin, and, says the Bible, they suddenly realized they were naked and tried to cover themselves. Fundamentalists point to this as proof that nudity is bad. This, of course, makes no sense since Adam and Eve were naked before they ever sinned by eating of the "fruit of the tree." God created humans naked, and they lived naked until they sinned. Some want to claim, however, that nudity became a sin after "the fall." And, in fact, in Leviticus 18 we find a whole chapter dedicated to why the people of Israel should not see their family members nude (though the actual words used indicate this means having sex with them, not just seeing them naked). However, in chapter 19, verse 27, we also are told not to cut the hair over our ears, or even to trim our beards, and earlier in the same book we're told not to eat pork or birds (uh oh, no more fried chicken!).

Why do Fundamentalists pick out those parts of Leviticus that they want to be sins and ignore the rest? Good question. Leviticus was not meant for you and me. It was meant for ancient Israel. Its rules were designed to rid a nomadic population of their diseases, not as a rulebook for all humans. But, interestingly enough, even if we decided to apply all the rules of Leviticus to our lives, if we never cut the hair over our ears and never ate pork or turkey again, and never saw any of our family members naked, the book never says it's a sin to see a non-family member naked. In fact, nowhere in the Bible do we read that nudity, by its very nature, is wrong.

Nudity, according to the Fundamentalist however, causes people to lust, which according to Matthew 5:28 is a sin. And pornography, that is, images or stories of people engaged in sexual activity, is specifically designed to make people lust, so its existence must, by default, be a sin according to these people. The Bible, itself, however, would have to be considered pornography by this definition. In Song of Solomon 7:7-8, Solomon describes how satisfying the breasts of his lover are, and then tells how he longs to take hold of them and how he wants to climb onto the woman. And in Ezekiel 23:1-20 we read of two women with insatiable sexual appetites, and we are told of how men with penises the size of donkeys' would pour out horse-like quantities of, well, their "issue" upon these women's breasts. If viewing pornography is a sin, then reading the Bible would also a sin considering how much pornography is in it. Point out these verses to your Fundamentalist friends and see how much they sweat.

You can read more about the pornography in the Bible at: http://elroy.net/ehr/vchip.html
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:10 pm

Quoting CFCUQ (Reply 27):
On a more ominous note, U.S. authorities engaged the help of the R.C.M.P. in Canada to arrest the head of the Canadian Marijuana Party for selling pot seeds on the internet, and hold him for extradition. Should this happen, this man faces a possible sentence in the U.S of life imprisonment, which, in his own country, would result in a fine of less than $2000.00 CD.
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:13 pm

I insist on reviewing all collected evidence personally. Big grin Big grin Big grin
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:23 pm

I do agree that those who have child porn should be punished to the full extent of the law. However, going after porn in genera??? C'mon...Bush strikes me as the kind of guy who'd sit in front of the computer jacking off to porn at his first chance.
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:34 pm

ANCFlyer, but who's laws ???? The guy sold seeds from his place in Canada !!!!!!! And to boot, seeds ain't contraband. ( Might have potential to become some, if some evil American druglord were to buy, plant, nurture, and harvest ) !!!
You must remember, hemp (cannibus) was made illegal after a huge lobby by the American cotton industry, when hemp was found to be a more durable fabric component by 100 fold, just after the poor American cotton producer was robbed of his free labour force at the abolishment of slavery !!  banghead 
 
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:41 pm

I know all about hemp and it's history.

What you may or may not know about cultivated Cannabis Sativa is the other story. Hemp and Marjiuana are as different as Vodka and Scotch Whisky.

We can start a different thread and debate it until the sun comes up next spring in the Arctic if you'd like . . . .

As for whether the laws of Canada will apply or the US, not for me to decide.


Quoting CFCUQ (Reply 32):
And to boot, seeds ain't contraband.

They are in Alaska . . .
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:47 pm

Oh man.

Porn keeps me 98% celibate. Without it I'd probably have some STD or 7 kids by now.

What I watch on my television in my own room in my own house is my own business.

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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:50 pm

ANCFlyer, yes, please do contact me directly, not so much about this thread, but more about your location, we have some things in common.
 
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:50 pm

Quoting CFCUQ (Reply 35):
ANCFlyer, yes, please do contact me directly, not so much about this thread, but more about your location, we have some things in common.

I'll do it . . . stand by for incoming! I sent you an IM rather than E-Mail since your e-address is "withheld". . . .   

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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:36 pm

Quote from the article linked above: "The new squad will divert eight agents, a supervisor and assorted support staff to gather evidence against "manufacturers and purveyors" of pornography -- NOT THE KIND EXPLOITING CHILDREN, but the kind that depicts, and is marketed to, consenting adults." (emphasis added)

Why on earth would they not focus on child pornography ?

Several European countries have in the last few years aggressively investigated and prosecuted internet based groups that produce and trade child pornography. Here in Switzerland this resulted in quite a few arrests. What I found really shocking was that there were primary school teachers among those convicted.

Child pornography is not only sick but its production hurts and emotionally scar its victims for life. It is my firm belief that the government has a moral obligation to protect our children by aggressively hunting down the perpetrators and prosecuting them to the fullest extent of the law.

The latest US initiaitve however, which is focused on porn produced by consenting adults for consenting adults is a totally different story. No one gets hurt by this stuff. Whatever your personal opinion on this commercial porn may be, it is protected by the first amendment. I do agree with Larry Flint on this one issue.

I somehow get the feeling that the primary focus of this new initiative is gaining votes and campaign contributions from deeply religious conservatives rather than actually protecting anyone.

If this administration actually cared about real family values and about protecting the children from deviants, they would divert the resources earmakred for this silly initiative to the fight against child porn rather than engaging in a cheap, ridiculous and hypocritical publicity stunt.

I find this utterly disgusting and I am glad that here all political parties are firmly committed to fighting child pornography while not intruding unnecessarily in peoples lives.

(I don't intend to turn this into and "old" Europe vs. America thread. I just feel that the more pragmatic less ideological approach on this side of the Atlantic works better. Now if could just combine that with US growth rates and unemployment figures, we would be in great shape.  Wink )
 
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:13 pm

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 12):
The FBI breaking into your house, and catching you getting a blowjob from your wife or girlfriend; or having anal sex with them, and carting you off to prison?

And that is different from prison how? The blowjob part?

Quoting STLGph (Reply 28):
Why do Fundamentalists pick out those parts of Leviticus that they want to be sins and ignore the rest?

Votes

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 33):
I know all about hemp and it's history.

Never took you for a stoner!  Silly
 
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:21 pm

Well if it's as successful as the 'war on drugs' I doubt that too many porno merchants are quaking in their boots, maybe putting a down payment on a bigger house or condo perhaps.

I don't understand how 'small government' conservative Republicans can accept this, you don't have to agree with Conservative GOP, but you could respect their positions on personal freedom, lack of a 'nanny state' etc.

But this is pure hypocrisy, panderding to some inbred zealots which one day, the GOP will come to bitterly regret.

Heed the words of the founder of modern US conservatism, the late Barry Goldwater, who said in the mid 1990's that the GOP should kick out the Christian Fundamentalists.
 
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:22 pm

Isn't the US the world's first producer of porn ?

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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:29 pm

Oh I wouldn't worry too much. I'm sure the US sex industry has enough juicy dirt on enough influential politicians that they could highlight to ensure that there will be plenty of them voting against any new clampdown on this.
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:47 pm

I do agree that I would rather have the FBI have these agents involved with going after terrorists, organized crime or the drug trade rather than go after what is generally regarded as legal porn. This does get into issues of 1st Amendment Freedom of Speech issues. I tend to agree that this is to please the religious right that strongly supports the Bush administration.
There are some legitment reasons to investigate legal porn and their providers. As noted above, there are laws against those under 18 being involved in porn and a need to make sure there are not violations. Some porn providers offer 'bearly legal' material and one has to be concerned with those who use fake id's to do porn may be under 18 and thus a violation of law in such product. There is the public health issues as to STD's especially AIDS and certain forms of Hepititis, and were a number of porn performers have come down with those diseases and possibly infecting others. There is also the mental health issues of performers and others in the industry and its human and financial costs to society. The nature of the industry attracts those who are involved in organized crime. For many years, the Mafia controlled the distribution of porn products and I do believe they and those involved in the illegal drug trades are heavily involved with porn production and distribution due to it's high profits and as an easy place to launder money. I would also suspect a high amount of tax evasion in the porn industry. Also important is the negative mental health issues involved with porn. There are many who support the belief that porn encourages sexual violence/assult and unhealthy activities.
Still, why issues of the industry shouldn't be ignored, there are other priorities beyond porn. Let the public market and pressure deal with it rather than the government.
 
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:47 pm

All this will quickly pass. When enough of the sanctimonious powers-that-be in this matter are exposed for the pornophiles that they are--after all, who collects a lot of this stuff if not them as well?--the witch-hunt will be called off.
 
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:42 pm

I'm against porn material, but is such action against the first ammendment of The Constitution of The U.S.A.?
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:58 am

Quoting TUNisia (Reply 8):
Too many laws in this country. How about we start repealing some of them for a start? When the hell has that ever happened?

Nope, that honour goes to us in the EU. Not only do we have dimwitted national legislation to contend with, we have EC directives pouring out of Brussells - about 253 A WEEK I believe,... we are the most legislated people on the planet.

Why is everything that comes out of the US lately called "the WAR on ...." something?

Quoting B744F (Reply 6):
It's a good thing terrorism and other crimes are at all time lows, the FBI agents must have been bored with nothing else to do

... yes, now I see it's really the "war on bordem"...
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RE: The Bush Administration Presents The War On Porno

Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:16 pm

Quoting September11 (Reply 22):
There are tons of pro pornographers who enjoy their jobs very much, to my knowledge

Mind you there are a lot of victims/unhappy people too...

http://www.rame.net/faq/deadporn/

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