geoffm
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Worst Possible Abuse Of "terrorism" Laws? (UK)

Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:12 am

An old crumbly was ejected from the Labour party conference for heckling... under the powers of the Terrorism Act. WTF?!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4291388.stm

This is taking the piss. It's almost as bad as the USA banning ickle babies from entry because their names match terror suspects' names.

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RE: Worst Possible Abuse Of "terrorism" Laws? (UK)

Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:30 am

Quoting Geoffm (Thread starter):
An old crumbly was ejected from the Labour party conference for heckling... under the powers of the Terrorism Act. WTF?!

Well if you asked me he looked like a terrorist in that blue suit, I mean who the f**k else would wear a suit like that? He deserved to get ousted, they probably thought he was a conservative!
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RE: Worst Possible Abuse Of "terrorism" Laws? (UK)

Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:28 am

Honestly, was such a massive dude needed to remove the guy? I mean, he is in his 80s and escaped Nazi Germany. He has every right to criticize Jack Straw for making that absolutely disgusting analogy. As far as the "terrorism" act goes, it just goes to show why countries need Constitutions and need to defend them (the UK has none)
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RE: Worst Possible Abuse Of "terrorism" Laws? (UK)

Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:31 am

Dang, it's nice to see the US isn't the only place with Terrorism clauses run amok!
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RE: Worst Possible Abuse Of "terrorism" Laws? (UK)

Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:36 am

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RE: Worst Possible Abuse Of "terrorism" Laws? (UK)

Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:39 am

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 3):
Dang, it's nice to see the US isn't the only place with Terrorism clauses run amok!

The difference here John is that it is totally legal to do all of this bollocks in the UK.
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RE: Worst Possible Abuse Of "terrorism" Laws? (UK)

Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:44 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 5):
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 3):
Dang, it's nice to see the US isn't the only place with Terrorism clauses run amok!

The difference here John is that it is totally legal to do all of this bollocks in the UK.

And I'm sure, my friend, someone would legally justify the same bizarre thing in the US if they thought they could get away with it . . . .
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RE: Worst Possible Abuse Of "terrorism" Laws? (UK)

Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:57 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 5):
The difference here John is that it is totally legal to do all of this bollocks in the UK.

Actually if I remember correctly, the Patriot Act was used to justify a raid on a pornography retail chain a year or so after its passing.
 
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RE: Worst Possible Abuse Of "terrorism" Laws? (UK)

Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:12 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 2):
it just goes to show why countries need Constitutions and need to defend them (the UK has none)

Erm... it may not be called a constitution, but that doesn't mean to say we don't have laws and principles which would otherwise be called a constitition! LOL

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RE: Worst Possible Abuse Of "terrorism" Laws? (UK)

Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:22 pm

Quoting Geoffm (Thread starter):
This is taking the piss

Abso-fucking-lutely! However, this is not the first time the law has been misused!

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/london/2005/08/320173.html

Just wait till the even more scary and creepy bits of the new anti terror law whic involve making it an offence to 'condone terrorism' get passed!


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4179128.stm[/url]

I note that they are suggesting a twenty year limit to the law, which would cover the bit where pretty much all the present cabinet were at university making speeches applauding the P.L.O. and A.N.C. whilst wearing che guevara t-shirts!
 
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RE: Worst Possible Abuse Of "terrorism" Laws? (UK)

Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:04 pm

Is it me or do the links in Reply 9 not work? The first one took me to the home page of Airliners.net!

At the rate the Labour Party is going, soon it will be an offence under the Terrorism Act in the UK to vote for any party other than Labour.

I am in Brighton now and the centre of the town has been turned into a fortress. Part of the seafront is closed off, as are the areas around the venues, resulting in a gridlock in the town's traffic as vehicles are forced to seek alternative routes on roads that are already congested without the diversions. The locals do not want the party conferences taking place here. The Press says it brings in money to the local trade but that is cobbles. Hotels are forced to offer delegates heavily discounted rates, on which they can barely break even. I was speaking to a manager of one of the conference hotels who said that they loose money during the conferences. Delegates moan about prices of drinks and meals in local bars and restaurants, so many are forced to reduce prices for the duration of the conferences. The main venues are hired out to the Labour Party without charge, so the council taxpayers are footing the bills. Then there is the cost of policing and the interruptions to daily life - I was stopped and searched by an armed police officer before I could go to the shopping precinct. On top of this, many people avoid going into the town centre whilst the conference is ongoing so what business they might gain from the conference delegates, who are in any event tight fisted, is offset by the loss of local trade.

Why cannot the conferences take place at a University or some country location, so the inconvenience is kept to a minimum?
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