bsbisland
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How To Quit Smoking?

Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:23 am

I need some advice how to quit smoking, because it´s driving me crazy and I failed many times. I´m 22 and smoke since I´m 18. I used to smoke a pack a day, but now I smoke less. Sometimes I decide to stop, don´t smoke for a day or so and then give up the other day. The most difficult is when I go out to bars and drink, it´s impossible not to smoke, specially seeing a lot of people smoking. In the morning and afternoon it´s ok not to smoke, but in the evenings it´s really difficult.
I´m really anxious and that makes things more difficult. About 2 years ago I tried the Wellbutrin (Zyban) and stopped for a few months, and then I started smoking again, but this time and don´t want to take any medicine (if I can have other options).
How about nicotine patches and chewing gums? Does it really work? Any other "new" thing?
I appreciate any advice, specially from the ex-smokers.

Thanks in advance.  Wink
 
DLPMMM
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RE: How To Quit Smoking?

Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:45 am

After 30+ years of 1-2 packs per day, I quit this year. I used (and still use) the gum. It is more expensive than smoking though. The most imoortant thing is to really decide to quit. The gum will give you a little rush of nicotine to help the will power.

Best of luck
 
 
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RE: How To Quit Smoking?

Thu Sep 29, 2005 9:11 am

I think its a matter of just being ready. And it is quite normal to fail a few times. Don't be hard on yourself. Even if you stop for 2 days or 2 years or whatever, it's still good. At least you saved some money.  Wink

I quit for 2 years and just started again. I did use the patch for about 2 weeks and then I set up a jar and put the money I was saving in it. Seeing that build up was great. I used the money for a trip, but sadly took up smoking shortly after. So I guess I better find that jar, for when I am ready to quit again.
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Gilligan
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RE: How To Quit Smoking?

Thu Sep 29, 2005 9:41 am

After 23 years of smoking I took a drug called (zialaban?). Can't quite remember how to spell it but that is the phonetic pronunciation. You start taking the pills while you keep smoking. Supposed to take 2-3 months but after two weeks I found myself looking at the cigarettes and wondering why I was smoking them. Never did go back for the second or third series of pills and haven't had a single craving in over 5 years.
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RE: How To Quit Smoking?

Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:08 am

The wife and I "Just did it"
I quit cold turkey 2 weeks before Hurricane Andrew, she quit about a month and a week ago.
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RE: How To Quit Smoking?

Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:20 am

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 5):
The wife and I "Just did it"
I quit cold turkey 2 weeks before Hurricane Andrew, she quit about a month and a week ago.

That's really great, if not for yourselves it'll benefit your kids soo much. Good Work.  bigthumbsup 
 
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RE: How To Quit Smoking?

Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:24 pm

The dozens of people that I personally know who have successfully quit smoking for good have these things in common.

1. They all quit cold turkey.
2. They picked a future date to stop smoking and stuck to it; no postponement for ANY reason.
3. Until that day came, they told their family and friends (support people) of their plans and asked/demanded that they vigilantly help them stick to the plan. They were to be in-your-face truthful and confrontational, if necessary, and to accept no excuses. Successful completion will be rewarded with something big like a trip, new truck, etc.
4. They planned realistic coping mechanisms for the rough times.
5. They planned a positive daily reward for each honest, successful day.
6. When the first no-smoking day came, every last piece of smoking materials were DESTROYED. The pieces were removed from the property by friends. Cigs, lighters, matches, ashtrays, secret stashes; the ashtray and cigerette lighter were removed from vehicles and sent away with friends.
7. The house and cars are thoroughly cleaned on day one.
8. Everyday, they honestly report their good and bad thoughts and actions of that day with their support people and tweeked coping mechanisms, if necessary.
9. The smoker calls a support person ASAP if crazings get too overwhelming.
10. The process may take two weeks. It may take six months.
11. The recovering smoker tends to get a happy, comfortable feeling when the process is over. They report things like, "I just knew I wouldn't smoke again," or "I have no desire to smoke. I haven't had any desire to do so for X days." The reward is relished.
12. The process starts over if there's a SINGLE relapse and after discussing what went wrong with the support people.

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RE: How To Quit Smoking?

Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:34 pm

If you figure it out, let me know. I've been trying to quit (off and on again) now for a few years (obviously not too successfully).

Quoting Gilligan (Reply 4):
After 23 years of smoking I took a drug called (zialaban?).

I believe you are talking about Zyban and, while it has worked for some people, there are also some nasty side effects associated with this. Same goes for Wellbutrin.

I read somewhere, where they are in the process of testing a Smoking Cessation Vaccine, with promising results so far.

Whatever you do choose, stick with it and, if you "fall off the horse" don't get all down on yourself, just get back on it ASAP. Also, when you do successfully quit, make sure you go to your local health food store and start taking Mullin (I think that's the correct spelling). It will aide you lungs in healing from the outside in so that damaged lung tissue does not get trapped under healing tissue.

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redngold
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RE: How To Quit Smoking?

Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:02 pm

Quoting MxCtrlr (Reply 8):
I believe you are talking about Zyban and, while it has worked for some people, there are also some nasty side effects associated with this. Same goes for Wellbutrin.

Zyban and Wellbutrin contain the exact same active ingredient - Buproprion - just in different dosages!
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RE: How To Quit Smoking?

Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:22 pm

I quit only last week after a real heavy night out on the booze and the usual smoking that goes with it. I woke up the following morning and simply couldn't face my usual cigarette with my cup of tea. That lasted all day. The followig morning, I decided I'd try to go another day without smoking .... today is day 7 and the longer I go, the more determined I am to give up.

One thing I would say - when you're trying to give up and you feel like you want a cigarette, that desire will often overwhelm you, causing you to forgot the reasons you wanted to give up in the first place. If you feel you need to smoke, try not to rush into it, think about it for a minute. Get back on a level and think about your health, your teeth, your breath, how your clothes smell, the cost, etc etc.

Yesterday, I lost my job after 23 years and we all spent the afternoon in the pub. I have to say I was very tempted but just kept thinking about the above and didn't smoke. My colleague thrust a dirty ashtray under my nose at one point - that's good enough reason in itself!

Good luck anyway. Another idea is to read the book The Easy Way to Stop Smoking by Allan Carr - it worked for a friend of mine!
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RE: How To Quit Smoking?

Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:04 pm

Avoid keeping a Ciggi & an ignition source on you.
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RE: How To Quit Smoking?

Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:09 am

After 18 years of smoking about thirty a day, 197,100 cigarettes, give or take? Cold turkey 5½ years ago almost to the day. The best method and its for free.

Quoting BSBIsland (Thread starter):
I´m 22 and smoke since I´m 18. I used to smoke a pack a day, but now I smoke less

29,200 cigarettes, give or take. Stop while your winning. But seriously, it is the best method. Forget Alan Carr, chewing gum, plasters and what-have-you.

Good luck.

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erikwilliam
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RE: How To Quit Smoking?

Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:54 am

Man, I don´t even try it cause it´s too damm hard.
The further I got was from Red to Light Marlboros...and got admit, it´s better.
If someone finds a easy, painless solution, give me a call.

Or maybe I´ll switch from Marlboros to the green stuff, how´s that sound??
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RE: How To Quit Smoking?

Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:48 am

If you want to stop you can. If you don't you can't.

I stopped after more than 5 days from one day to the other. Well, didn't really want to stop 100%. Smoking less than one package a year ...

If you want, you can make it. Just DON'T touch cigarettes!

Good luck n enjoy your day
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bsbisland
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RE: How To Quit Smoking?

Sat Oct 01, 2005 4:18 am

Guys, I appreciate a lot all your advice, but the point is : It is REALLY difficult. I know that is "if you want, you can", but it´s a bit harder than this, as it is something I´m physically addicted.

Quoting Cxsjr (Reply 10):
when you're trying to give up and you feel like you want a cigarette, that desire will often overwhelm you, causing you to forgot the reasons you wanted to give up in the first place

That is exactly what happens, and as I´m not as rational as would like to be, that makes things a bit more difficult, but I think the main thing is, as stated above: don´t touch cigarettes.
The first time I stopped, I was taking Wellbutrin, and I stopped in two or three days, but I´m still concerned about side effects, because they exist, but that time it was way easier to quit.

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 7):
They picked a future date to stop smoking and stuck to it; no postponement for ANY reason.

That´s the most difficult part. This week I´m still smoking 2-3 cigarettes a day, and I´ve seen that it won´t make me stop. I have to stop completely. I´m studying for some tests at university and I´m quite anxious and stressed, but I always find an excuse for myself. I think I have to be harder on myself and then I will have success on this.

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RE: How To Quit Smoking?

Sat Oct 01, 2005 8:21 am

Co-worker and his wife stopped a couple of weeks ago..they both had
injections of a drug, plus Thorizine (sp?) which was supposed to "soften the landing". It kept them home for a couple of days..but they haven't smoked since..though he says the craving hasn't left. He's eating a lot of hard candy.
Interviewed the inventor of the patch a while back...he echoes earlier posts..you'll quit when you really want to.
My wife and I, sadly, still smoke. We did a program of the stort outlined
by AsstChiefMark..and it worked..for seven weeks. We both started again on the same day..independently...she after root canal surgery, me..after a horrible day at work. But the goal's very worthwhile..and good luck reaching it.
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RE: How To Quit Smoking?

Mon Oct 03, 2005 7:51 am

My friend (whom some of you may remember as "the breast") and I decided yesterday on a whim to stop smoking. We were driving home from a wedding and decided it was time. Not next week, not January 1st...but right then and there.

We've decided that over the next three weeks, we can allow ourselves 3 smokes per day on the first week, two smokes on the second week, and then one smoke per day on the last week. "Banking" is not allowed (meaning if I have only 2 today, I can't add that third one to tomorrow's allowance).

It's day two. On day one and today (so far), I had 2 smokes, but only took a few drags before throwing each away.

This is going to be a lot more difficult than I thought. I've smoked since I was was 16. (I am 30 now).

Best of luck BSBIsland. I'm with you.

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RE: How To Quit Smoking?

Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:49 am

Quoting TPAnx (Reply 16):
Co-worker and his wife stopped a couple of weeks ago..they both had
injections of a drug, plus Thorizine (sp?) which was supposed to "soften the landing".

You're shitting me! Thorazine is a heavy-duty drug that's used to sedate institutionalized psychos and ...



It turns people into zombies.

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RE: How To Quit Smoking?

Mon Oct 03, 2005 12:33 pm

I had my first cigarette in the 7th grade. Back then, it really wasn't a problem. I stopped it after a while cuz I thought it was pointless. Then I started smoking regularly in the 9th grade(and it was really hard cuz I couldn't buy them), I'm 18 now and I've been smoking about a pack a day for about a year and a half and I feel its getting worse. I know its really bad and I wish I could quit. But it is VERY hard.

I think the way to quit smoking is cold turkey. but that is also the most difficult way IMO. I've never tried medication, and I don't want to. I was thinking of getting the gum or patch, but some people say they work, others say they don't...guess i'll have to find out myself someday.

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