TedTAce
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Espionage Case Breaches The White House

Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:45 pm

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1187030&page=1
"Officials tell ABC News the alleged spy worked undetected at the White House for almost three years. Leandro Aragoncillo, 46, was a U.S. Marine most recently assigned to the staff of Vice President Dick Cheney."
"Classified Material Transferred by E-Mail:
Officials say the classified material, which Aragoncillo stole from the vice president's office, included damaging dossiers on the president of the Philippines. He then passed those on to opposition politicians planning a coup in the Pacific nation. "


Great job with the "war on Terror" W. You can't even keep your puppet master from being a victim.
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RE: Espionage Case Breaches The White House

Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:49 pm

Gotta love the people they surround themselves with in the White House...  sarcastic 
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RE: Espionage Case Breaches The White House

Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:19 pm

Traitorous ass - may he rot in jail . . .

Cue the usual Bush Bash Bullshit . . . oh, wait - it already started.

I'm SURE this is the very FIRST spy they ever had in this country, huh  sarcastic  Geez, you people need to get a life.
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RE: Espionage Case Breaches The White House

Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:27 pm

Hmmm... Maybe we should have profiled him.
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RE: Espionage Case Breaches The White House

Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:37 pm

Quoting Redngold (Reply 1):
Gotta love the people they surround themselves with in the White House...

Once again... a fish stinks from the head down.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 2):
I'm SURE this is the very FIRST spy they ever had in this country, huh sarcastic Geez, you people need to get a life.

It's the first in the Whitehouse!!

Quoting LHMark (Reply 3):
Maybe we should have profiled him.

I'll leave that to Concordeboy... I hear he has a 'very special' screening process Big grin

I'm just agitated that more people aren't pissed off about this..
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RE: Espionage Case Breaches The White House

Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:39 pm

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 4):
It's the first in the Whitehouse!!

And just how sure are you?

Even a WH heavy has been caught stealing classified documents . . . lest ye forget.
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RE: Espionage Case Breaches The White House

Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:44 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 5):
Even a WH heavy has been caught stealing classified documents . . . lest ye forget.

But that was at the national archives for the pourpose of revising history... not for comiting what could be an act of terrorism.
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RE: Espionage Case Breaches The White House

Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:45 pm

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 4):
It's the first in the Whitehouse!!

Except for Bill Clinton, who was working for the Russkies. And torturing puppies in his free time.

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ANCFlyer
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RE: Espionage Case Breaches The White House

Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:47 pm

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 6):
But that was at the national archives for the pourpose of revising history... not for comiting what could be an act of terrorism.

The point is TedT, everyone seems so frickin' surprised . . . why? Espionage is nothing new. . . from former Marines, to Navy Petty Officers, Sandy Berger!

They should all hang.

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RE: Espionage Case Breaches The White House

Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:58 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 8):
Espionage is nothing



Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 8):
They should all hang.

HUH?!?!
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Thumper3181
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RE: Espionage Case Breaches The White House

Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:14 pm

Grow up Ted, this is nothing new. By the way there where more espionage cases under Clinton. There are bad apples in every bunch.

You really need to find some server to muck up. Then when your users can't log on blame it on problems with the router to get the real network engineers involved.

I'm not a big fan of Bush but your rants against the administration are getting boring.
 
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RE: Espionage Case Breaches The White House

Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:49 pm

Quoting Thumper3181 (Reply 10):

I'm not a big fan of Bush but your rants against the administration are getting boring.

Then don't read them...
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RE: Espionage Case Breaches The White House

Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:14 pm

Quoting TedTAce (Thread starter):
Great job with the "war on Terror" W. You can't even keep your puppet master from being a victim.

Umm - please note that this guy also worked under Al Gore... He worked from 1999 to 2001.

"Leandro Aragoncillo, 46, worked in the vice president's office from 1999 to 2001, during both the Clinton-Gore and Bush-Cheney administrations."

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/10/06/wh.stolen.info/index.html
 
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RE: Espionage Case Breaches The White House

Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:30 pm

Quoting DeltaFFinDFW (Reply 12):
Umm - please note that this guy also worked under Al Gore... He worked from 1999 to 2001.

"Leandro Aragoncillo, 46, worked in the vice president's office from 1999 to 2001, during both the Clinton-Gore and Bush-Cheney administrations."

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/10/06/wh.....html

Good point!!!
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RE: Espionage Case Breaches The White House

Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:30 pm

This suggests a long running failure of control to access of sensitive information. I am quite sure since 9/11, there are much tighter procedures as to vetting and controls of access to such materials in the WH and elsewhere in the Federal Government. I do hope that if this person is guilty of these crimes that he spends the rest of his life in a very nasty Federal or Military Jail (Levenworth, Atlanta, or the SuperMax in Colorado where terrorists are put).
 
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RE: Espionage Case Breaches The White House

Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:31 pm

Yeah, I don't think the blame can entirely rest on the Bush Administration for this. He worked under the Clinton Administration, and up until the end of 2001, he worked for Bush. It is a total failure on the part of both the CIA and FBI to keep tabs on employees. They give lie detector tests to the maids that work at the Whitehouse, but as you go up the ladder, the lie detector tests get less frequent. Go figure. The leaders of our country could possibly be traitors, and we'd never know.

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RE: Espionage Case Breaches The White House

Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:40 pm

I'm with ANC on this one, screw the traitors. Interesting this broke now, just as Defense Department analyst Lawrence Franklin has pleaded guilty to espionage, helping out our "ally" Israel. Though Franklin's case is nowhere near as bad as Jonathan Pollard's, why is a country that gets 5 billion of our tax dollars a year still spying on us?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051006...u=X3oDMTA5bGVna3NhBHNlYwNzc3JlbA--

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 2):
I'm SURE this is the very FIRST spy they ever had in this country, huh sarcastic Geez, you people need to get a life.

There have been WAY too many of those. Good to hear that at least some are getting caught.
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RE: Espionage Case Breaches The White House

Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:03 am

Quoting Drewfly (Reply 16):
Good to hear that at least some are getting caught.

I would rather there be nothing TO catch if you know what I mean...
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RE: Espionage Case Breaches The White House

Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:29 am

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 17):
I would rather there be nothing TO catch if you know what I mean...

Oh I agree, believe me. But while I love living in a free society such as our own, one of the downfalls is an increased vulnerability to espionage. I don't have a tally about how many Soviet spys we caught during the cold war, but I would bet that the KGB caught alot more of ours. Of course, Aldrich Ames and the like didn't exactly help.
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RE: Espionage Case Breaches The White House

Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:38 am

Quoting DeltaFFinDFW (Reply 12):
Umm - please note that this guy also worked under Al Gore... He worked from 1999 to 2001.

Damm beat me to it.
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