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New Civic Anyone?

Sat Oct 08, 2005 5:46 am

This one looks very good. Did anyone test drive it yet?
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RE: New Civic Anyone?

Sat Oct 08, 2005 8:11 am

WOW TedTAce, you make such wonderful contributions to the site!!!

Anyhow, the Civic coupe looks quite nice, and the 200hp engine should be a lot of fun. I'm not impressed with the sedan though, especially the interior. It should be a great buy though.
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RE: New Civic Anyone?

Sat Oct 08, 2005 8:57 am

I like it. But I don't want the EX. I want the full deal. The SI. It looks nice. And it's gonna have Navi! The only thing that disapoints me, is that there won't be leather in it.

But a six speed manual??? WOW. 197 horses. Pretty sweet.
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RE: New Civic Anyone?

Sat Oct 08, 2005 10:29 am

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 1):
Oh yeah, it was the VERY first thing I did this morning, I skipped taking a shower and EVERYTHING

Do us a favour and please go away!

Quoting Bahadir (Thread starter):
This one looks very good. Did anyone test drive it yet?

I went in to our Honda dealership on Tuesday evening to get a first glimpse at the new arrivals. It looks a lot nicer in person then it does in the photos, both the sedan and coupe. I was invited to a private "unveiling" yesterday and had a chance to sit in it, the only thing that really bothers me is that the stereo system is part of the dashboard, so I could see problems if you want to put an after market one in. Other then that, they did a fantastic job for this generation. I haven't had a chance to drive one myself yet, I have to wait until Tuesday for that. But with a base engine of 140hp and even better handling (so I've heard), it should be a real blast to drive. In December, the Si comes out with 197hp.
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RE: New Civic Anyone?

Sat Oct 08, 2005 10:48 am

Haven't seen any in person yet, but it certainly looks unique. It's sure to be reliable and efficient like every Civic preceding it. From the front I would say it looks OK, but the back is awesome. Almost looks like a mini Audi. The only thing that drives me crazy though is the 2 tier dashboard. That is something I don't believe I could live with. Power wise 140hp is great, and of course fuel efficiency is going to be quite good. I just hate the dashboard.
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RE: New Civic Anyone?

Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:02 am

Great! just another car that can be turned into r1ce. I'd rather get the 06 EVO VIII or stick with my spec-v.
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RE: New Civic Anyone?

Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:05 am

If you are familiar with previous generation Civics, the 2006 model blows them away. There isn't even a close competitor to it. It is much smoother riding and handles a lot better too. There is also less engine whine and road noise. The interior layout looks wierd in the photos, but when you are actually behind the wheel it looks great.

I can't wait to drive an Si.

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RE: New Civic Anyone?

Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:09 am

Quoting Asuflyer05 (Reply 8):
It is much smoother riding and handles a lot better too. There is also less engine whine and road noise.

That's what I've heard myself.

Quoting Asuflyer05 (Reply 8):
The interior layout looks wierd in the photos, but when you are actually behind the wheel it looks great.

I agree with that as well. I'm sure it'll take most Civic owners to get used to this just as the new windshield wipers will.
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RE: New Civic Anyone?

Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:11 pm

I test drove a '06 Civic EX Sedan W/Navi.

I could not believe that I was in a Civic. I love Honda and I think they have hit the nail on the head with the new Civic. It's got tons of room, great build quality, super quiet, extremely fuel efficient, and pricing is perfect.

It is kinda sad though that some of the standard equiptment that is on the EX coupe isn't even available on the the EX sedan (like the 300+ watt stereo.)

I can't wait until I can get one of these, but I have to wait until my current Civic dies, and I am hoping that won't be for a while. (1997 Honda Civic w/ just over 106,000 miles.)

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RE: New Civic Anyone?

Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:44 pm

I was planning on getting a new Civic when my current one dies too. Since it's a 2000 with 55k miles on it that'll be in about 10 years.
 
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RE: New Civic Anyone?

Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:34 am

Quoting Nancy (Reply 9):
Since it's a 2000 with 55k miles on it that'll be in about 10 years.

That's so true. I've had mine since new in 1997 and it has been virtually trouble free.

My uncle has 1996 and it has about 200K miles on it and he took it in for a tune up and the guy asked him when he last had a tune up and he said he didn't know, and the mechanic laughed and said "you've never had a tune up! these are all original parts." This was around 160K. He said he would replace the parts because he was there, but it wasn't really needed.

Things like this will always make me stand by my Honda, it's hard to think about buying or owning anything else...besides an Acura.

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RE: New Civic Anyone?

Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:43 am

Quoting AmericanMD80 (Reply 8):
I can't wait until I can get one of these, but I have to wait until my current Civic dies, and I am hoping that won't be for a while. (1997 Honda Civic w/ just over 106,000 miles.)

You've still got many years to wait ...  Wink

I've had 2 Honda's (a 1995 Civic and a 1998 Accord coupe), but I traded my Accord in for a 2000 Ford Mustang GT. As much as I love my Mustang, the quality just isn't there, so it's gonna be making room for a new Civic next spring. I'd buy it now, but there's no point getting a new car just before winter and getting all the rock chips in it right away.
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RE: New Civic Anyone?

Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:46 am

Quoting AmericanMD80 (Reply 8):
I can't wait until I can get one of these, but I have to wait until my current Civic dies, and I am hoping that won't be for a while. (1997 Honda Civic w/ just over 106,000 miles.)



Quoting Nancy (Reply 9):
I was planning on getting a new Civic when my current one dies too. Since it's a 2000 with 55k miles on it that'll be in about 10 years.

By the time you guys are ready for a new Civic, they'll have come out with at least two more body styles, and re-brands Smile
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RE: New Civic Anyone?

Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:47 am

The sedan looks alright... but the Civic coupe looks like a spitting image of the Saturn Ion coupe....
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RE: New Civic Anyone?

Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:51 am

Quoting Cactus739 (Reply 13):
The sedan looks alright... but the Civic coupe looks like a spitting image of the Saturn Ion coupe....

Does the US version of the Saturn look differently then the Canadian? Personally, I think the new Civic coupe as a little bit of the Acura RSX, Accord coupe and Peugout 307 in it.
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RE: New Civic Anyone?

Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:54 am

Quoting Cactus739 (Reply 13):

The sedan looks alright... but the Civic coupe looks like a spitting image of the Saturn Ion coupe....

Too bad Saturn can't hold a candle to Honda's reliability....
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RE: New Civic Anyone?

Sun Oct 09, 2005 12:44 pm

But at the end of the day, it's a Civic, powered by a rather lacking V-4 creating 1799 cc's of displacement, which equates to a pathetic 1.8 litres. I've driven vacumn cleaners with more power. But just wait, anybody who can't afford a car with power will soon find someone to borrow money off of so they can soup up their new Civic, complete with drilled-in exhaust and family name proudly displayed across their rear window.

And while I was looking up the specs on Honda's website, under the specs there was "Valve Train." Is this their new terminology for camshaft, or am I completly missing something here?
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RE: New Civic Anyone?

Sun Oct 09, 2005 12:58 pm

Quoting EclipseFlight7 (Reply 16):
But just wait, anybody who can't afford a car with power will soon find someone to borrow money off of so they can soup up their new Civic

Interesting, since a Civic costs just as much as most cars with power, yet they still sell better then most other cars. Honda must be doing something right.
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RE: New Civic Anyone?

Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:21 pm

Quoting EclipseFlight7 (Reply 16):
But at the end of the day, it's a Civic, powered by a rather lacking V-4 creating 1799 cc's of displacement, which equates to a pathetic 1.8 litres. I've driven vacumn cleaners with more power. But just wait, anybody who can't afford a car with power will soon find someone to borrow money off of so they can soup up their new Civic, complete with drilled-in exhaust and family name proudly displayed across their rear window.

And at the end of the day, the Civic is a great car in it's class. It is easy to mod. There's a reason so many people turn them into ricers. The engine is just too easy to mod, and make that much better.

You can't seriously put the Civic down. Sorry. It's a reliable car. It does a great job for what you pay for.
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RE: New Civic Anyone?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:22 am

I am laughing to myself cause everyone has '95 and later model civics..I am big civic fan too but i am embarassed to say i have a '90 model, but I hasn't died yet and I really love it.. It is in immaculate condition by the way cause i had in the shop for a while. So for all those who waiting for their newer models to die, you do have a wait  Smile These cars keep on going..

The new civic on the other hand is rather blinging... Can't afford it right now cause i am school, but I wonder what honda will have for me after I graduate...
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RE: New Civic Anyone?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:19 am

EclipseFlight7, your age range is 13-15! How can you possibly be telling us about the amount of power in a Civic? Seriously, North Americans have this odd perception that anything under 200 hp and 6 cylinders is under powered. In Europe, the speed limits are consistently higher, and engine displacements and power ratings fall well short of what we're used to in North America. Trust me, a Civic with 140 hp might not be excitingly fast, but it will have plentiful power, even for a fun moment or two.

At the end of the day, however, these things are well put together, well balanced machines that will serve their owners extremely well over the long run. And if the owners decide to sell them, they depreciate far less than the vast majority of their competitors.
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RE: New Civic Anyone?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:32 am

Quoting Captaingomes (Reply 20):
EclipseFlight7, your age range is 13-15! How can you possibly be telling us about the amount of power in a Civic?

I may be 15, but I work the front desk in an automotive repair shop (owned by my dad) and you pick it up fast when you have people calling you asking for help.

And I know that a car doesn't have to be powerful to be a good car. It just boosts your ego, and when you fly airplanes a big ego is required.
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RE: New Civic Anyone?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:40 am

Quoting Captaingomes (Reply 20):
Seriously, North Americans have this odd perception that anything under 200 hp and 6 cylinders is under powered. In Europe, the speed limits are consistently higher, and engine displacements and power ratings fall well short of what we're used to in North America.

Very good point. It's all how the car brings the power onto the street. My Mustang GT as a V8 with 260 hp (302lbs of torque IIRC) but it wouldn't even have had a chance against my 1988(9) Peugout 309GTI with only 135hp.

Just because a car may have "power", it may not necessarily know how to use it the way it should.
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Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:06 pm

Eclipse, don't get me wrong, I am not against you for having an opinion at your age, but hopefully when you start driving, you'll realize that 140 hp in a 3,000 lbs car might not produce a road rocket, but it does get out of its own way very nicely. It all depends on the engine's characteristics too. A VW 1.8T with 150 hp is to me by far the nicest 150 hp engine I've tried. Others feel lethargic in comparison, but that's mainly because of the broad torque curve thanks to the turbo boost.
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RE: New Civic Anyone?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:57 pm

Civics are good cars, dependable, good on gas etc. But they do have one problem, they're boring! Around here everyone and their uncle has one, and they will all have the new one when it comes out. But still, only 200 horsepower in a 3000 lb car?... ho hum... yawn  I'm sure Honda would have no problem coming up with a 300 horsepower version, now that would make a fun car!

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RE: New Civic Anyone?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:26 pm

Quoting EclipseFlight7 (Reply 16):
But at the end of the day, it's a Civic, powered by a rather lacking V-4 creating 1799 cc's of displacement, which equates to a pathetic 1.8 litres. I've driven vacumn cleaners with more power.

Tell me what's more pathetic: 140hp/180hp out of Honda's/VW's 1.8l or 224hp out of Ford's 4.6l or even better 295hp out of Chevrolet's 5.3l??? What real use do you have for this excess power? For pathetic 65mph speed limit?
 
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RE: New Civic Anyone?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:00 pm

Quoting T prop (Reply 24):
But still, only 200 horsepower in a 3000 lb car?... ho hum... I'm sure Honda would have no problem coming up with a 300 horsepower version, now that would make a fun car!

Again, it's how a car brings the power to the street. Having owned a 1995 Civic with only 102hp and a 2000 Mustang GT with 260hp, the Civic was much more fun to drive. The Mustang would win in a straight line, but the Civic would be laughing at me as soon as the first curve came. Mind you, you can't beat the sound coming out of the pony car.

If you want boring, I suggest the Pontiac Grand Am with the 175hp V6, that is such a useless car it's not even funny.
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RE: New Civic Anyone?

Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:50 am

Quoting Captaingomes (Reply 23):
Eclipse, don't get me wrong, I am not against you for having an opinion at your age, but hopefully when you start driving, you'll realize that 140 hp in a 3,000 lbs car might not produce a road rocket, but it does get out of its own way very nicely.

Of course a car can be judged on horsepower, but a lot of it goes back to what I said about an ego. For example my dad has a Triumph TR6 with a V6 with a 2.5, but it feels like it has more power than it does. A lot of that probably come from its small size.

Well, we'll just have to disagree. You may think the Civic is a reasonable car, I think its a cheap ricer. I guess we'll just leave it at that.
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RE: New Civic Anyone?

Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:16 am

Hey Nuno, we just picked up a 2.5L Jetta (Jettola), and its great, its 150Hp but it has low end torque as well. VW has made a really nice engine for the base modle. Though give me the 2.0T anyday though
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RE: New Civic Anyone?

Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:49 am

Jordan, the 2.0T is available now! You should have gone for that! It's not much more than the 2.5, looks better overall, has a sporty suspension, argh! However, it's still a nice car, looks notwithstanding. Congrats on the new purchase!

Eclipse, I'm very disappointed  Wink A few people make the Civic their own rice-rockets, and that's fine. But for the majority it represents a terrific value for a budget car that has decent performance, great fuel economy, is very reliable and durable, and handles well. It is one of the better choices of small cars for people who enjoy driving, and look more long-term in the car ownership experience. If I had to buy a new car tomorrow, and were on a tight budget, sure I'd rather buy something with more power, features, etc, but for the price, the Civic is fantastic!
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RE: New Civic Anyone?

Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:14 am

Well Nuno, its my sisters car, if it was up to me it would have been the 2.0T with the Prem Leather Pkg and 6 Speed Manual with all options in. However her budget was a littel tighter then mine, I on the other hand bought a Magnum Hemi V8 RT with all options in. Big grin
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Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:31 am

You bought a Magnum? Holy! LOL damn! I'm definitely looking forward to the next YYZ Meet!  yes 
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Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:37 am

LOL yup, there is a picture of it in the self photo thread.
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RE: New Civic Anyone?

Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:23 pm

Thanks for all the replies, I had a 97 DX model that I traded in for a brand new 2003 Grand Vitara. Since i rarely needed a car, my wife is still enjoying it. My 1992 Geo Prizm that I had for last 2 years (cost me only $700. That's what, a monthly payment on your Suburban?:P) I am thinking about going back to the Civic. This time EX might be the one to go for... I am sure she will be a keeper for the next decade.
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RE: New Civic Anyone?

Wed Oct 12, 2005 5:19 pm

I finally got to take one out for a test drive today. My impression on the LX coupe was that it's a great car to drive. The two tier instrument does take some getting used to and I don't really care for the digital speedometer, however it's very well placed and you don't really have to take your eyes of the road to see your speed. The seats provide incredible support and the arm rest and gear shift are extremely well placed. The engine was very responsive and suspension is by far there best yet. The only thing that did bother me was the steering was a little bit too sensitive for my liking, it did have a tendency to oversteer in the corners and when changing lanes. All in all they did a great job on this one(despite the $22,000 CAD price tag) and it has a very European feel to it. The more I look at it, the more I think that they stole the design from the Peugout 307 though (which is a good thing). Glad that I'll be in the market for a new car next spring!
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