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New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:37 am

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/s...o%20Be%20Charged%20After%20Beating

It's a direct link to the video, let me know if it's not working. It looks like the cops got frustrated with a 60-some year old man and started to hit him in the head, while another cop on his horse tried to block the camera from catching it. Completely unacceptable. Any comments?

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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:38 am

No comment until all the facts and circumstances are known.
 
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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:38 am

"This is the news Web site of the Associated Press, its member newspapers and broadcasters. "

Try again..
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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:40 am

I think I'm more offended by the policeman hitting the APTN reporter and pushing him over backwards against a car. I suppose, though, if they are already going to press charges against the police officers who beat the drunk man, that it is all right to presume that their actions were unjustified.


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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:52 am

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/s...7219&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Look for the video under "Police to Be Charged After Beating"

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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:53 am

Way too early for conclusions.
 
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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:58 am

Remember that when a police officer shoots at someone, they are using unneccessary force and brutality. Totally uncalled for in all circumstances. Negotiations. Negotiations. Negotiations.

When a person shoots at a police officer, THAT person is a victim lashing out in response to a hate filled, oppressive, intolerant society. It is an act of self defense on the part of that poor individual who probably had a bad childhood and had his self esteem stunted at some point.

So the cop had it coming.

Unless, of course the shooter was a white male in his 20's or 30's. In which case he's just a criminal.  sarcastic 
 
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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:59 am

It is too early for conclusions.

However, from what I see, he was resisting arrest, and the officers had to beat him down for it. Never know if a suspect has a gun, needles, or a knife, and they obviously were not taking chances.

And if it turns out that the guy was indeed resisting, then he got what was coming to him. He needed a few smacks on the head.




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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:00 am

Quoting Matt D (Reply 6):

You really love a little paranoia, right?
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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:01 am

Quoting Matt D (Reply 6):
Remember that when a police officer shoots at someone, they are using unneccessary force and brutality. Totally uncalled for in all circumstances. Negotiations. Negotiations. Negotiations.

When a person shoots at a police officer, THAT person is a victim lashing out in response to a hate filled, oppressive, intolerant society. It is an act of self defense on the part of that poor individual who probably had a bad childhood and had his self esteem stunted at some point.

Matt D I know you're being sarcastic, but just reading that makes me sick. Pure hardcore liberalism at its worst.




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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:07 am

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 7):
And if it turns out that the guy was indeed resisting, then he got what was coming to him. He needed a few smacks on the head.

I don't recall where in the force continuum "a few smacks on the head" falls.

From the video I have seen, it's not looking good for the officers. But again, I think it's too early to reach any conclusions.
 
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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:16 am

Quoting Itsjustme (Reply 10):
I don't recall where in the force continuum "a few smacks on the head" falls.

If it wasn't obvious enough, that was my personal opinion.



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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:22 am

Quoting Matt D (Reply 6):
Unless, of course the shooter was a white male in his 20's or 30's. In which case he's just a criminal.

What happened Matt, did you get picked on by minority kids when you were young?

Like everyone else has said, until all the details are known its way to early to pass judgement. I will say that attempting to block a film crew is probablly bad judgement, no matter what the circumstances. At the bare minimum it's going to give the impression that there is something to hide.
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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:24 am

Quoting Searpqx (Reply 12):
What happened Matt, did you get picked on by minority kids when you were young?

He's just pointing out the double standards of a liberal society.




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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:25 am

Initial thoughts: That is beyond the neccessary level of force, and the deal with the camera man is completely undefendable.

Second thought: Maybe there is resistence we can't see happening, the deal with the camera man is still undefendable.

Third thought: These guys have been working 12-24 hour shifts four about a month now, they are all going to snap pretty soon.
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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:28 am

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 14):
Third thought: These guys have been working 12-24 hour shifts four about a month now, they are all going to snap pretty soon.

That's a good point to make.

Whenever you have LEOs from all over working in devastated areas week after week, it ain't the best time to test their patience.



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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:35 am

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 13):
He's just pointing out the double standards of a liberal society.

And yet, he's the only one that's gone down that road so far.

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 14):
Third thought: These guys have been working 12-24 hour shifts four about a month now, they are all going to snap pretty soon.



Quoting NWA742 (Reply 15):
Whenever you have LEOs from all over working in devastated areas week after week, it ain't the best time to test their patience.

 checkmark  No matter what the full story turns out to be, I'd put money that this is a part of it
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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:38 am

Quoting Jalto27R (Thread starter):
Completely unacceptable. Any comments?

Cue the appropriate song. "Been Caught Stealin"
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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:21 pm

I've been to NOLA a couple times, and the cops there have always had a short fuse. Bourbon St. is a constant warzone, and those cops have no patience whatsoever.

A couple of my friends and I got jumped by some guys, and we took care of business, and the cops were like, cool, dude, they should not have jumped you.

Battlefield justice if I have ever seen it.
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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:46 pm

Two words:
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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:51 pm

Here is what was said to the APTN reporter.

(This was taken from a CNN report)
Meanwhile, a fifth officer ordered APTN producer Rich Matthews and the cameraman to stop recording. When Matthews held up his credentials and explained he was working, the officer grabbed the producer, leaned him backward over a car, jabbed him in the stomach and unleashed a profanity-laced tirade.

"I've been here for six weeks trying to keep ... alive. ... Go home!" shouted the officer, who later identified himself as S.M. Smith.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/10/09/taped.beatings.ap/index.html
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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:37 pm

THe cop why assaulted the AP reporter at the very least sould be suspended for a few days. As for the perp, I don't have much sympathy for him.
 
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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:40 pm

Saw the video of the cops whooping on the 64 year old man. Made me sick to my stomach regardless of his intoxication. Also saw the cop yelling at the AP reporter and assaulting him with his hand around his collar...also made me sick.

I would fire all cops involved in both videos. Senseless violence that shouldn't be tolerated...I have no sympathy for them. Change careers if you can't handle the heat.
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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:42 pm

Quoting Aa777jr (Reply 22):
I would fire all cops involved in both videos. Senseless violence that shouldn't be tolerated...I have no sympathy for them. Change careers if you can't handle the heat.

Learn to think like that at UT Law?

The facts are not all in yet. Remember the Cincy cops who were shown on national news beating the hell out of a 300lb black guy who later died in custody? The part of the video the media refused to show us was that same guy throwing one of the cops through the air and beating the hell out of the other one.
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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:10 pm

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 9):
Matt D I know you're being sarcastic, but just reading that makes me sick. Pure hardcore liberalism at its worst.

Yes but pure hardcore liberalism does not support such violence and demands explanations for the use of it. I know that may sound horrible to you, but just image somebody trying to act civil.

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 14):
Third thought: These guys have been working 12-24 hour shifts four about a month now, they are all going to snap pretty soon.

Then that person if they cannot handle the stress and pressures of the job should FIND A NEW ONE

That is no excuse to take your anger and stress out on somebody as cops have been known to do. Go find a new line of work, there are plenty of well paying jobs out there, just ask a Conservative and they will agree
 
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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:11 pm

In less than 24 hours after the (partial?) video of the incident was made public, 3 NOPD officers have been booked on battery charges and suspended w/o pay. I hope that what appears to be a rather accelerated investigative process of the incident doesn't blow up in the department's face.
 
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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:41 pm

Quoting B744F (Reply 24):
Then that person if they cannot handle the stress and pressures of the job should FIND A NEW ONE

That is no excuse to take your anger and stress out on somebody as cops have been known to do. Go find a new line of work, there are plenty of well paying jobs out there, just ask a Conservative and they will agree

I guess you don't support counseling services for officers, mandated rest periods, dangerous precinct rotations, or administrative leave after violent conflict. You know, the things that are purposely included in police structures to keep officers from cracking. The very things that these men and women have been working without for the past month.

These guys aren't hard core shock troops, they are police officers. If they aren't relieved soon, they are going to crack. It's one beating now, but give it another week or so in the same conditions and it will happen more and more. Not because these are bad people, but because they are past their limit. You think some people are cranky after a bad nights sleep? Try what these guys have been doing.

Oh.. yes... they can quit. I dare say you have never been in the mental state of a police officer if you think they are going to just walk away from their city now.
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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:58 pm

Quoting Matt D (Reply 6):
Remember that when a police officer shoots at someone, they are using unneccessary force and brutality. Totally uncalled for in all circumstances. Negotiations. Negotiations. Negotiations.

Well, this isn't the most ignorant thing I've ever read on A-Net but it damn sure its the top 5. Whatever . . .  redflag 

The whole post is so bizarre I ahve to assume Matt D was high, drunk - probably both . . . I can only hope so - a sane, sober person couldn't possibly think this way.

As to the subject: My initial impressions - these officers have some serious explaining to do. Three officers, obviously in charge, already had the subject cuffed and against a wall . . . he was of little threat. Perhaps he was cussing or yelling at them - whatever - happens all the time. Appropriately, they've been suspended without pay.

Further - the story continues beyond the beating in the head they gave this 61 year old subject . . . one of the officers also roughed up a TV News Producer at the scene. Pushed him back over the hood of car. That was televised as well.

I think there will be a new line of work in the future of at least one of the officers. IMO - beating the subject in the head was/is way out of line, outside any scope of necessity. And sadly, from what I know of NOPD - the usual tack for that department.
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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:35 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 27):
Appropriately, they've been suspended without pay.

They've also already been charged with a crime, a decision I believe to be one made in haste. Given the short amount of time that passed from when the incident occurred to when the officers were suspended and charged, it doesn't appear as though a very thorough investigation was conducted. Is the video tape sickening? Yes, it is and it's a slap in the face to anyone who wears the uniform. Does it appear as though excessive force was used? Yes, the appearance is definitely there. Should the officers under investigation have been allowed to continue to work? No, of course not. Suspend them, mandate they take administrative leave...whatever. But for them to be charged so quickly after the incident took place is wrong. Especially when there is a strong possibility that extenuating circumstances exist surrounding the officer's behavior, given what that department and the majority of it's members have had to endure since Katrina hit.
 
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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:42 pm

Quoting Itsjustme (Reply 28):
Especially when there is a strong possibility that extenuating circumstances exist surrounding the officer's behavior, given what that department and the majority of it's members have had to endure since Katrina hit.

Katrina not withstanding, I'd almost like to agree with you here, except NOPD and their Bourbon Street detail have a history of "aggressive" policing. Now, having been to Bourbon Street on numerous occasions I can understand the need for aggressive policing in that area. Glad I never had a beat there.

That said, just from what I saw on the news (and that's a very limited perspective I'll grant you) I believe appropriate actions by the department have thus far been taken.

Furthermore, what possible excuse could they have for roughing up the news producer? Once again, they typical NOPD of the mid-1990s . . . appearances suggest not much has changed in that department.
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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:16 pm

Ther was a show on the corrupion in the NOPD. NOw i realise it was a tv show and had to be flashy but some of the stories were scary...

Such as 7 out of 21 recruits in the police academy had a criminal record for violent offenses....

1 police officer set up a hit of a witness using the police radio network...and it was carried out

1 cop robbed a restraunt and killed everone including a cop but missed 1 witness then actually showed up at the scene of the crime as the investigationg officer..

30 cops arrested for drug traficing...

There were more.

Now i realise these are bad apples but these happened in the span of a couple years...To me, now i realise that it is based on a tv documentary, it looks to a cultre of corruption..

Agreed that we do not have all the story on the guy they were arresting but the reporter is too much....and even scary as how many think that trying ti intimidate a reporter was not a big deal or making excuses...

Yes they have been through a lot. but to me when a person puts on the badge they have to be held to a higher standard. That badge give trememdous power that can be abused. When that power is abused it needs to be delt with harshly and not swept under the rug...what ever the reason.

Glad they suspended them with out pay. Shit here they would be on administrative paid leave for two years while thye figured out what to do.

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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:38 pm

A buddy of mine that grew up in NOLA was having a keg party in the garden district for his high school graduation. Cops came and broke it up, and took the keg. My buddy followed them as they left, and he said about 4 cop cars gathered in an alley and finished off the keg while on duty.

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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:52 am

Cops are on suspension without pay. TV producer decided not to press charges against the cop that assaulted him, however the NOPD is pressing those charges. This incident is dominating the radio talk shows down here today.

BTW, yesterday was my first day off since Katrina where I didn't go out of town. I had a chance to drive into areas that had received the most flooding. Mind-boggling, depressing, and surreal to say the least.

I think I need to write a book about the past six weeks.

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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:01 am

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 32):

BTW, yesterday was my first day off since Katrina where I didn't go out of town. I had a chance to drive into areas that had received the most flooding. Mind-boggling, depressing, and surreal to say the least.

I guess I missed the thread where it was established what hapened to you personally. I have a vague recollection that you did OK considering, but I'm not so sure now....

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 32):

I think I need to write a book about the past six weeks.

Better hurry, I'm sure your not the only one!!!
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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:24 am

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 33):
you did OK considering, but I'm not so sure now....

Not to worry. Our house did fine (two fences and a bunch of roof shingles gone). We live out near MSY, where there was some house flooding in areas, though it didn't come all the way up to any houses on our street, and definitely not on the scope of what areas closer to downtown N.O. had to deal with. Those were the areas I drove through yesterday (and I have numerous friends and co-workers that had/have houses in those severely flooded areas).

The last six weeks have been life-changing for all of us down here, and more life-changing times are ahead of us, that's for sure. Thanks for your thoughts for us here; I mean that.

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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:41 am

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 27):
Well, this isn't the most ignorant thing I've ever read on A-Net but it damn sure its the top 5

Actually, in fairness to Matt, he was being very sarcastic. Problem is, he probably thinks that all liberals think in the manner that he is parodying. An example of a pure extremist - just as bad as the other extremists he can't stand. Like me, for example.
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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:54 am

Quoting Logan22L (Reply 35):
Actually, in fairness to Matt, he was being very sarcastic.

OK, I'll buy that . . . perhaps I read the post way too early in the morning.

I'm glad the City is pressing charges against the officer the roughed up the News Producer. That was completely uncalled for. At least what I could see on the TV.

It will be interesting to see how this - and the investigations pending from the actions of a few officers during the Katrina disaster - pan out.
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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:14 pm

More info . . .
The subject of this arrest is a retired school teacher . . . he hasn't had a drink in 25 years and was attempting to purchase a pack of cigarettes when the NOPD arrested him.

I don't see a very bright future for those officers.

Still nothing on the officer that accosted the TV News Producer. Any word.

One thing that really pisses me off is abuse of authority by law enforcement. It destroys the trust the people place in us . . . and makes all of us look bad.

Based on what I know - from watching the news and reading about this story - I must conclude these officers are guilty . . . I hope they pay heavy for it.
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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:52 pm

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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:07 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 27):
Quoting Matt D (Reply 6):
Remember that when a police officer shoots at someone, they are using unneccessary force and brutality. Totally uncalled for in all circumstances. Negotiations. Negotiations. Negotiations.

Well, this isn't the most ignorant thing I've ever read on A-Net but it damn sure its the top 5. Whatever . . .

The whole post is so bizarre I ahve to assume Matt D was high, drunk - probably both . . . I can only hope so - a sane, sober person couldn't possibly think this way.

I'm guessing you re-read that listening for the irony. Have a cuppa lifer juice and reload.

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 34):
Thanks for your thoughts for us here; I mean that.

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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:02 am

Seems like the victim doesn't have any problems with the police department as a whole...

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/10/11/taped.beatings/index.html

I commend this guy tremendously for taking a good breather before jumping to conclusions. You know this story could have been twisted any different way imaginable, especially racially, but he took a step back and left it alone. I'm sorry he had to go through it but I am very pleased with his patience and understanding in the matter.

As for the officers in question, I think they will get what's coming to them. While they may have very good excuses for their temper, like some of you have pointed out, they still are responsible for the consequences of those actions.
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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:38 am

Quoting Flyboy36y (Reply 21):
THe cop why assaulted the AP reporter at the very least sould be suspended for a few days. As for the perp, I don't have much sympathy for him.

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Quoting Aa777jr (Reply 22):
Saw the video of the cops whooping on the 64 year old man. Made me sick to my stomach regardless of his intoxication. Also saw the cop yelling at the AP reporter and assaulting him with his hand around his collar...also made me sick.

I would fire all cops involved in both videos. Senseless violence that shouldn't be tolerated...I have no sympathy for them. Change careers if you can't handle the heat.

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I think the Justice Department needs to revamp NOPD ! This Police Department has been corrupt for so many years and the Hurricane just exposed what most people who dont live in NO did not see.
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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:24 am

Lets see,
Corruption in the NOPD
NOPD beating up pedestrians
NOPD beating up photographers

Looking like things are already getting back to normal in New Orleans.

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RE: New Orleans Police Beating Caught On Film

Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:53 am

Quoting Matt D (Reply 1):
No comment until all the facts and circumstances are known.

They are all known, and this was a complete travesty

Quoting Matt D (Reply 6):
When a person shoots at a police officer, THAT person is a victim lashing out in response to a hate filled, oppressive, intolerant society. It is an act of self defense on the part of that poor individual who probably had a bad childhood and had his self esteem stunted at some point.

So the cop had it coming.

Unless, of course the shooter was a white male in his 20's or 30's. In which case he's just a criminal.

Man, this is even bad for you. How can someone be so racist?

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 7):
However, from what I see, he was resisting arrest, and the officers had to beat him down for it. Never know if a suspect has a gun, needles, or a knife, and they obviously were not taking chances.

Um, he was a 64 year old man standing at a table with his cigarettes who asked an officer a question, wearing clothes that would not hide a gun. Oh, not to mention that he was about half the size of the 'roid head officer who was holding him

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 19):

Amen

Quoting Flyboy36y (Reply 21):
THe cop why assaulted the AP reporter at the very least sould be suspended for a few days

Suspended a few days? For not only attacking someone but also acting in complete contravention to the Constitution of the United States? He should lose his job and be thrown in jail for battery

Quoting Flyboy36y (Reply 21):
As for the perp, I don't have much sympathy for him.

Um, perp? You mean the guy who was minding his own business? You know what probably happened? The officer he asked about the curfew probably said something stupid, the man gave him a piece of his mind (which is totally legal) and they attacked him. They just happened to get caught

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 27):
The whole post is so bizarre I ahve to assume Matt D was high, drunk - probably both . . . I can only hope so - a sane, sober person couldn't possibly think this way.

No, a sane, sober person would not think this way. MattD does

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 27):
I think there will be a new line of work in the future of at least one of the officers. IMO - beating the subject in the head was/is way out of line, outside any scope of necessity

Not only did they beat him in the head, but they left him lying in a pool of blood.

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 32):
I think I need to write a book about the past six weeks.

Can I write a chapter or two?
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