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Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:46 am

http://www.thisislondon.com/showbiz/.../20594611?source=Daily%20Mail&ct=5

My first reaction was "Who the hell is Daniel Craig?"

The 6th James Bond, first blond.

21st Bond film will be based on Ian Fleming's first book, Casino Royale, interestingly enough.

I must reserve judgment on his acting as I'm not familiar with him, but this is a dark horse pick all the way. Ugh.
 
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:52 am

He's definately got the right character for it.



Not handsome enough though i don't think.
 
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:53 am

Well known actor over in the UK Slider - mainly from TV dramas and the like. his name has been rumoured for some time.

A good actor - but perhaps not my first pick. We shall just have to see how he goes i suppose.....
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:10 am

Other than having a hot ass, I don't see the attraction.

He lacks the instantaneous star quality that Bond requires.
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:11 am

Well, could have been worse.

On a side note, I spotted this on IMDB.com....

http://www.zap2it.com/movies/cffs/story
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:12 am

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 3):
He lacks the instantaneous star quality that Bond requires.

That's what I was thinking.

Let's face it- the entire Bond series is campy (supposed to be to an extent), and needs a draw. Pierce Brosnan was that draw, and the cast of ladies in his films. This guy is virtually an unknown, at least on this side of the pond, and I just don't see much snap there.
 
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:16 am

Quoting Slider (Reply 5):
Let's face it- the entire Bond series is campy (supposed to be to an extent), and needs a draw. Pierce Brosnan was that draw, and the cast of ladies in his films.

I agree.
Remember when they had whatsisname in the late 80s? He was so dour and his films got so serious, they got dull.
Bond has to walk a fine line between camp and tough. This fellow looks like he's been yanked out of an Indie flick.
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:28 am

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 6):
Remember when they had whatsisname in the late 80s? He was so dour and his films got so serious, they got dull.

Tim Dalton. And "Living" wasn't too bad. It was "Bond" as was written by Fleming. "License" was an awful movie.

I think the Bond franchise is past it's "sell by" date.
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:33 am

I don't think that this is the right guy. Of the others available there were those that much more closely fit the mold (and this is not a movie where you break molds) such as Owen or Purefoy or even that dude from Nip/Tuck McMahon.

I think that Craig will end up like Dalton, a fine actor miscast and his talents will be underappreciated in the role.

I hope this is just another rumor.
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:34 am

It's a pretty fine line to tread though.

Unless you have someone like Brosnan, who let's face it was born to be Bond, the choice is inevitably going to be someone who isn't known globally. He can't be. Bond has always been played by relative unknowns at the time they were chosen, be it Connery, Moore, Dalton or Lazenby.

Furthermore, given that they are probably going to choose a British actor, chances are he isn't going to be that well known in the US, because the only British actors you lot tend to see are the ones who are the perfect choice to play the baddies. Why is that by the way? Are we inherently evil?  Wink
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:41 am

Nah, if you'll notice all the other potentials have been British or Australian relative unknowns (can anyone here immediately identify more than one film by any of the above mentioned other prospects? Craig was in Layer Cake and Tomb Raider).

I think that the last potential American Bond was Burton Leon Reynolds of Waycross, Georgia, and he turned it down.....with good reason...he'd never have carried the role off (should have been a Leiter, as it stands Bernie Casey was the best Leiter).

Besides, as far as bad guys go everyone always looks for foreigners to speak your language with an accent to be the baddies. It fits better with people's natural xenophobia.  Wink
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:47 am

Quoting Banco (Reply 9):
because the only British actors you lot tend to see are the ones who are the perfect choice to play the baddies. Why is that by the way? Are we inherently evil?

It's the accent.

I think Clive Owen or even Jason Stratham would make a better Bond, at least as far as the "prototypical" Bond goes. What this series of movies really needs is more female nudity. Brosnan was quoted as saying that and I'd have to agree. Have Halle Berry or Teri Hatcher flash some boobs and you'll see an increase at the box office.
 
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:53 am

He's probably the only one of the candidates that said "yes". I believe they offered the role to Clive Owen and he refused, partly because the Bond producers wanted someone to commit to a three-picture deal.

I heard Craig was quite good in Layer Cake, which came out earlier this year.
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:57 am

Quoting Homer71 (Reply 12):
I heard Craig was quite good in Layer Cake, which came out earlier this year.

Storming film, some excellent performances in it and a couple of my favourite actors as well.

If you get the chance, watch it. Daniel Craig is superb. I agree with previous posters that he is going to be miscast in this role, he's just too serious to get away with it.
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:03 am

Quoting DL021 (Reply 10):
Besides, as far as bad guys go everyone always looks for foreigners to speak your language with an accent to be the baddies. It fits better with people's natural xenophobia.

Ah, I see. Well that explains George Bush anyway....  Wink
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:32 am

Quoting CactusA319 (Reply 11):
Jason Stratham would make a better Bond

100% agree.

Quoting CactusA319 (Reply 11):
Have Halle Berry or Teri Hatcher flash some boobs and you'll see an increase at the box office.

That's what seperates BOND from all else. If memory serves, it wasn't until "Living Daylights" that there was any serious frontal nudity, and THAT was for mere nano-seconds. I hope they keep it "classy" without the need of obvious sex.
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:33 am

Craig is a good actor, though I thought Layer Cake was well overrated, this wasn't because of Craig.

He also did well in an otherwise lacklustre adaptation of the excellent Robert Harris novel, Archangel, a TV production.
 
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:38 am

this is not good news. He is not bulky enough - Brosnan was better in the role after he gained 10kgs for his second film. He also lacks real star quality. He seems to be a Dalton but without the slight menace of Dalton. I am nervous that they may not have picked a winner here.

However, it is not yet official, so there is still hope!
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:42 am

Hmm well I don't know why everyone thinks Timothy was such a failure.. I though the Living Daylights was a pretty good flick... Hmm this new dude? I am not sure about.. Well James Bond characters are usually a little more strikingly handsome, but i guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder.. Let's see what he does...

I thought Jude Law might have been an interesting Bond, or that guy from King Arthur.
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:51 am

Quoting TriStarEnvy (Reply 15):
If memory serves, it wasn't until "Living Daylights" that there was any serious frontal nudity, and THAT was for mere nano-seconds. I hope they keep it "classy" without the need of obvious sex.

You're forgetting Marie in the pre-title scene of Diamonds Are Forever (1971) -  Wink
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Wed Oct 12, 2005 3:08 am

Quoting Homer71 (Reply 19):
You're forgetting Marie in the pre-title scene of Diamonds Are Forever (1971)

Isn't everybody naked in the title sequences, too????  Wink

And if one hit's the "slow advance" on that same movie, I'd wager Lana Wood's character "Plenty", will also be, when she hoisted out the window. Not one of my favorite Bond's "Diamonds"....
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Wed Oct 12, 2005 3:21 am

I was talking about "pre-title" scene where Bond rips off Marie's bikini top and wraps it around her neck to get her to talk. Freeze frame between it coming off and Marie covering them with her arms and there you have it.

Plenty O'Toole is one of better Bond chicks name - right up there with Dr. Holly Goodhead and Xenia Onatopp
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Wed Oct 12, 2005 3:54 am

FYI: Yahoo Groups has a series of great "Bond Girl Clubs"...

There are about eight or nine of these groups, all linked from the first one. Some great collections of photo's, too...

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/ultimatejamesbondgirls/
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Wed Oct 12, 2005 6:07 am

Quoting TriStarEnvy (Reply 15):
I hope they keep it "classy" without the need of obvious sex.

Uhhh, Pussy Galore and Plenty O'Toole were classy names???
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Wed Oct 12, 2005 6:13 am

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 23):
Uhhh, Pussy Galore and Plenty O'Toole were classy names???

Yes, they were classy in the sense that you could allude to sex without being visually graphic about it on screen. It was good for an innocent laugh. We seldom see comedy like that anymore, most of what we get is pure garbage covered in a nice plastic package.

On another note, I have to say the best Bond was Sean! My favorites were Goldfinger and Dr. No.
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Wed Oct 12, 2005 6:17 am

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 23):
Uhhh, Pussy Galore and Plenty O'Toole were classy names???

Don't forget Xenia Onatopp  Wink

Seriously now - Daniel Craig sucks. First - he's blonde, second - I can't get the vision of him in "The Power of One" as the filthy Nazi out of my head.
He's too......un-bond-like.

Now THIS guy would have made an AWESOME Bond:



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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:09 am

Quoting TUNisia (Reply 24):
Quoting Jaysit (Reply 23):
Uhhh, Pussy Galore and Plenty O'Toole were classy names???



Quoting QANTASFOREVER (Reply 25):
Quoting Jaysit (Reply 23):
Uhhh, Pussy Galore and Plenty O'Toole were classy names???

Don't forget Xenia Onatopp

You guys have forgotten about Octopussy.....the name of the movie for petes sake.
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:35 am

The spy game is one of suspense. The Bond movies seem to try to outdo each other, using wit and technical gadetry. Read the books by Fleming and you will find that Bond got out of jambs using ordinary, everyday items. The ultimate Bond movie would be directed by Hitchcock. As for the boobs, I'll direct those scenes.

As for the new guy, that call belongs to the people who pay the bills.
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:40 am

I think Clive Owen would make an awesome James Bond.... he might be a tad unrefined... but I think he could pull it off very well.

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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:44 am

Anyone else think Hugh Jackman would be the best choice?
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Wed Oct 12, 2005 11:45 pm

I think one reason why Eon Productions chose Daniel Craig was that he has some passing resemblence to a younger Hoagy Charmichael, Ian Fleming's own idea of what James Bond looked like.  Smile
 
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Wed Oct 12, 2005 11:48 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 29):
Anyone else think Hugh Jackman would be the best choice?

Nope.  Smile

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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Wed Oct 12, 2005 11:49 pm

Quoting TriStarEnvy (Reply 7):
think the Bond franchise is past it's "sell by" date

not really any point to bond anymore, belongs to a different era.
 
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Thu Oct 13, 2005 3:46 am

Quoting RayChuang (Reply 30):
I think one reason why Eon Productions chose Daniel Craig was that he has some passing resemblence to a younger Hoagy Charmichael, Ian Fleming's own idea of what James Bond looked like.

Interesting notion....after all, Fleming's own inspiration was the old gentleman spy, but decades later, the image and overall package of what we think Bond "should be" is already cast in stone.

With that said, I think the guy stands out like a sore thumb as well.

I hope they prove me wrong.

However, I would wager that this almost guarantees that the female lead will be a VERY well-known actress, since the main lead won't be a known quantity, they need to get some marquee names to draw.
 
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Thu Oct 13, 2005 4:00 am

Quoting Slider (Reply 33):
However, I would wager that this almost guarantees that the female lead will be a VERY well-known actress, since the main lead won't be a known quantity, they need to get some marquee names to draw.

Please God, not Madonna, not Madonna, not Madonna....

Quoting Slider (Reply 33):
after all, Flemings own inspiration was the old gentleman spy

Which is what makes the original "Casino Royale" movie a wee bit more compelling. Even though it's a bit of a dud, i.e. WAY too much crammed into a movie, David Niven's selection as Sir James Bond, wasn't so odd.
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Thu Oct 13, 2005 4:30 am

Quoting Tristarenvy (Reply 34):
Please God, not Madonna, not Madonna, not Madonna....

Haha... how about Catherine Zeta Jones or Jennifer Gardner  Wink

Quoting Rj111 (Reply 1):
Not handsome enough though i don't think.

Irony of the day, he looks like Vladimir Putin. A Bond character with uncanny resemblance to a former KGB office, what has the world come too?  eyebrow 

 
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Thu Oct 13, 2005 6:08 pm

Clive Owen rejecter the role. It is difficult to find a known actor to want to become 007, as it marks very much.

The thing is you can't make just one movie: Daniel Craig will sign for 3 movies. He was the personal preference of Barbara Broccoli, one of the producers. Michel G. Wilson (the other producer) and Martin Campbell (Director) wanted a younger Bond, and Sony wanted Pierce to return.

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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:36 am

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 35):
how about Catherine Zeta Jones

I'd buy a ticket to see her.  Wink
 
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:18 am

At least it is not that prick Russell Crowe

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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:25 am

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 3):
He lacks the instantaneous star quality that Bond requires.

Have you ever saw him acting before to make such statement?
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Sat Oct 15, 2005 3:01 am

Quoting Rj111 (Reply 1):
Not handsome enough though i don't think.

He looks more like a villian  Sad

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Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:18 am

I saw the news of this, on The Sun's on-line news. What was amusing, was they had pictures of the previous Bond's, and David Niven was included. Someone at The Sun must either have a good sense of humor, or includes Niven in their list of 007's....
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:25 am

Quoting Tristarenvy (Reply 34):
Please God, not Madonna, not Madonna, not Madonna....

I think you mean, "Please god....not Ester, Not Ester, Not Ester.

Quoting TriStarEnvy (Reply 41):
I saw the news of this, on The Sun's on-line news. What was amusing, was they had pictures of the previous Bond's, and David Niven was included. Someone at The Sun must either have a good sense of humor, or includes Niven in their list of 007's....

He played Bond in the parody film "Casino Royale" which is also a fleming book.
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Sat Oct 15, 2005 6:02 am

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 39):
Have you ever saw him acting before to make such statement?

Yes, I have. In 2 films. He doesn't quite have that rakish sex appeal bordering on both camp and cool that his predecessors have.

Now, Clive Owen? Wooof !
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Sat Oct 15, 2005 10:16 pm

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 43):
Now, Clive Owen? Wooof !

Just let him play the role first. After that, then judge him.
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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Sun Oct 16, 2005 2:10 am

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 35):
Irony of the day, he looks like Vladimir Putin. A Bond character with uncanny resemblance to a former KGB office, what has the world come too?

I hope he washes his hands more than Putin, though

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 40):
I want Roger Moore back!!!

I loved Roger too, and now people will jump and say: "uhhhhh connery WAS bond!!"  sarcastic 



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RE: Daniel Craig Is The New James Bond

Sun Oct 16, 2005 2:20 am

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 43):
Now, Clive Owen? Wooof !

I would have loved to have seen Clive as Bond.

I just hope the story lines get better. I know everyone pretty much panned Timothy Dalton as Bond, but in the modern era, I think The Living Daylights had one of the better plots, even though it was a tad long.
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